> > > since i don't have a date of death or the location of the > > > presumed death of the father, only the name, is there anywhere > > > else to look? > > > His child was born in 1978 (the child died and her info is on the > ssdi). The information i have on him is from the child's obituary > of 2002. That's one of the reasons it seemed so strange. The > mother was born in 1961. Try the child's birth certificate. If you can't get a copy because of the concerns about stolen identity, at least you should be able to get the information from it. The people who submitted the obit may have had social reasons to lie about his death. I just heard from someone concerning my material on WorldConnect. A man left his wife and children in the late 1800s and started another family. His children from the first family were told that he was dead. Their descendants were surprised by the new-found info that he hadn't died when they thought. In your case a 17 year-old had a child that died. She was still a minor. Her parents probably published the obit. They may have lied about the father to save their daughter more grief. JB "Joan Best" <joanbest@earthlink.net>