All fun and smart-alecky remarks aside. I agree that smacking a computer unit is not the best thing. It may not damage the unit as they are designed to take small shocks (infrequent ones) during the normal use of them. However, some brands may have inferior chip components in them that may become damaged by this method of "repair". This is due to the fact that some are fragile. Another problem may be that a slot card has become unseated and needs only to be pushed back in. By smacking the unit, you may cause a chip to have problems that are intermittant (will only cause problems when warmed up after a period of time) when the problem was a slot card or maybe even the data cable (a break in it). Don't resort to this method unless you are willing to either (a) pay more to have the unit diagnosed and repaired than the original purchase price, or (b) buy another unit and...oops! you damaged your drive controller or the drive itself and you cannot recover you data because you thought you had a recent backup that actually works. Now you have to redo the research on your genealogy. Slan Leat! Phil McManus manus@aol.com (Manus)