> > > > I doubt "change your reaction" would be your response if someone > > > > stole from you. I really don't see that I should get MY case jumped > > > > when all I'm wanting is to make it a bit more difficult for a thief > > > > to steal from me, and I see it as no different from locking my doors > > > > and windows to make it difficult enough for a thief to get into my > > > > house, or my truck, that he'll decide it's not worth the effort and > > > > will move on. I really don't see why I should be criticized for not > > > > > > > > "Karen Rhodes" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Putting stuff on a web page is the equivalent of pinning it > > > up on a supermarket bulletin boards, with signs on the billboards > > > saying it is there.... > > > > > > Dennis Lee Bieber <[email protected]> > > > > That makes it sound like we request people to "Please Steal" when we > > create a web page. Actually we're saying here is a source, please > > observe sourcing protocol. > > > > I'm beginning to think my web page should read, I have organized > > more than 50 pages of facts, single-spaced, with sources, on > > Sullivans in VA and NC up to about 1835. If you want to know what > > they are please contact me and I will forward up to 10 of them. > > > > Of course no one would contact me but I would have made a good faith > > effort. > > > > [email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan) > > I came late to this discussion, so I must apologize for re-opening > healing wounds. > > Unfortunately, there is no way to control what people do with > publicly posted information. As Denis Bieber pointed out, putting > your data on, e.g., WorldConnect is akin to posting it on a > supermarket bulletin board for all to see and use. What folks do > with your information, how they use it, whether or not they give due > credit to you for your work becomes a matter of individual ethics, > of which there seems a diminishing supply in today's world. > > Those who know me from soc.genealogy.computing and alt.genealogy > know that I run my own genealogy webserver (apache + mysql + > phpgedview). Now, before y'all go trotting off to > rgmhome.homeunix.net, be forewarned that it's a by invitation site > and password protected at two levels: once to access the site and > once for full access to the genealogical data. And who do I invite? > Relatives, mostly, who are serious family researchers in my > estimation. This way, _I_ control who sees the fruits of my > research and that of the other participants. While I don't believe > I "own" the information on the site, I do exert some control over > what is seen and by whom. I am convinced this is, if not the only > way, the best way to handle the concerns I've seen expressed in this > thread. > > If you would like to discuss this with me off-group, I'll happily > arrange for you to have guest access to the site and provide details > on my setup. Drop me a line at the reply-to address in the header. > > Bob Melson <[email protected]> Thank you, Bob. At the moment I feel some loyalty to the two web hosts who have been so helpful. Of course they are in sales but they never seemed to be controlled by their watch. As background I don't plan to post a tree. I plan to post about 45-50 pages of researched facts with sources - something like all the Sullivan genealogy data for VA and NC up to about 1835 being in one book at the library instead of 100 books. I want it to be a service to Sullivan researchers but I don't want them to be able to cut and paste the entire site to their word processor. And I don't want commercial organizations to harvest the data. But goodness of the heart is not my entire motive. I plan to expand the collection as people pass new data - data that I hope will ultimately let me provably determine the ancestors of my gg grandfather b. 1790. It's everybody's web site - I'll just be paying for it and I'm the sole editor. People on this newsgroup have indicated that posting the data in PDF or as a .jpg might provide that type security. I think needing a password to view the site would defeat my purpose of being available to all but not copyable. Hugh [email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan)