> Rules of evidence are very clear on this, I don't understand why > you're all trying to wiggle around them. It makes for sloppy > genealogy. > > Christopher Jahn <[email protected]> I'll trust my ability to detect which is male and which is female when I am on the beach in FL in a few days even though it is not a nudist beach and I see indicators but absence of proof.. You will have to be satisfied that you have convinced yourself. Hugh [email protected] (J. Hugh Sullivan)