OK, you grammar-hammers and "prissy-faced English teachers" out there -- If an ellipsis follows the end of a sentence are there 3 dots or 4? If an ellipsis follows a clause which ends with a , do I leave the , ? Quote marks with punctuation -- if the quoted material ends with a . it's inside the quote, yes? If the quoted material from the center of a sentence but is at the end of the new sentence the . is outside the quote, right? The material I'm working with has it all ways, and I want to standardize punctuation for clarity to the 21st century reader, most of whom don't have a clue what the rules are in the 21st century but will promptly be on an anomaly like fur on a kitten. Meanwhile, seeing so many deviations from the norm I thought I knew in the beginning has me looking up whether all sentences must end with a . Cheryl singhals <[email protected]>