thank you all I will get reunion later today I am having trouble with aol imap on the mac can receive but not send nor find out how to edit smtp port data "mail" seems poor and MS Office teachers was a good buy on amazon.co.uk 100 for 3 licenses but that version of Outlook doesn't send either in WinXp MS OE keeps on trucking with imap usenet I use news international server and I have set that up in Mozilla suite on the mac remember when it used to take 2 to 4 hours to ftp netscape for the mac from a university site :-) no so many minutes with broadband those were the days when the tele company rebooted their server at 6;00 am 10 minutes before the download was finiahed - and NO resume my telephone bill was astronomical Hugh W -- new computer = new blog http://mac-on-intel.blogspot.com/ daily blogs with new photos http://snaps2006.blogspot.com/ http://slim2005.blogspot.com/ family history http://hughw36.blogspot.com Hugh Watkins <[email protected]>