> Sometimes you can't even trust "momma". > > [email protected] Sometimes you can't trust a birth certificate either. My maternal grandfather was born in March 21st, 1864 according the Quaker Monthly Meeting records of the meeting to which the family belonged. This is the date my grandfather used as his birthday throughout his 88 years of life. His birth certificate from the state, however, says he was born on March 20th, 1864. So either he was born straddling midnight or the town doctor who most likely wasn't present on the farm at the birth, and who didn't submit his records to the state more than once or twice monthly, just forgot and made an error. Joan [email protected]