> I have a family photo that's about 35 years old -- 2-1/2 inches > square. It was mounted in a metal frame with the photo against the > glass. I'm trying to remove it but a portion of the photo is stuck > to the glass. > > I tried to slide a razor blade between the photo and the glass but > it looks as though this will only ruin the photo by tearing off the > top layer of the photo -- which contains the photo. > > Any suggestions as to how to separate photo from glass?? > > "A-non-i-moose" <someone@somewhere.com> This is probably THE worst nightmare possible when it comes to photographs. If you have not done so as yet, make a copy of it NOW !!!!! I know of only two ways to undo such damage, Both have very limited success. 1. Flash freeze the print to minus 20 and keep it there for several weeks. The print MIGHT pop off with very little damage. 2. Depending on the type of photo (and its backing), soaking it in a warm (75 - 80 deg F) water with Photo Flo (a Kodak product designed for modern photo prints) for several days. Again, as the image regains moisture, the print may pop off the glass with little damage. That said, the success of these measures is marginal, so be sure to copy the image before doing ANYTHING to the print! I may be able to offer some assistance. Email me off list. Regards, Arnold <><><><><><><><><><><> Arrowhead Images <surveyor999 AT a-znet.com> <><><><><><><><><><><> Happiness is a cup of coffee. Security is having your own cup. Anxiety is wondering who's using it. AE Palmer <surveyor999@a-znet.com>

> I have a family photo that's about 35 years old -- 2-1/2 inches > square. It was mounted in a metal frame with the photo against the > glass. I'm trying to remove it but a portion of the photo is stuck > to the glass. > > I tried to slide a razor blade between the photo and the glass but > it looks as though this will only ruin the photo by tearing off the > top layer of the photo -- which contains the photo. > > Any suggestions as to how to separate photo from glass?? > > "A-non-i-moose" <someone@somewhere.com> Whatever you do, be sure to scan it first.

> I have a family photo that's about 35 years old -- 2-1/2 inches > square. It was mounted in a metal frame with the photo against the > glass. I'm trying to remove it but a portion of the photo is stuck > to the glass. > > I tried to slide a razor blade between the photo and the glass but > it looks as though this will only ruin the photo by tearing off the > top layer of the photo -- which contains the photo. > > Any suggestions as to how to separate photo from glass?? > >"A-non-i-moose" <someone@somewhere.com> Photos are processed in water-based solutions, so soaking the print in room temperature *may* release it from the glass. However, I would recommend finding someone who has done this type of photo recovery before - an inexperienced person might just separate the paper from the image :-( John - gave up my darkroom 20 years ago when I developed an allergy to some of the chemicals... news@picaxe.us

> > How does one search for a specific Bible when the year of > > printing, 1752 in Edinburgh, is known and the name of an owner from > > 1908 is known? > > > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com> > > Perhaps a clarification? > > John FULTON owned the Bible 1908. He has died. Descendants do not > know what became of the Bible owned by John FULTON. > > Any guidance as to searches for this Bible, if it still exists, is > appreciated. > > "Barbara McLeod" <1brown1blue@gmail.com> Is the church he attended still active -- any chance the Bible was given to the church? How about your local or state historical society? I was searching online for my g-g-g'father's name -- one of the links I found took me to a Louisiana state archives site that had his family Bible in their holdings along with his will, letters to/from his children -- lots of his papers that had been donated to the archives by one of his children. Let us know what you find. "A-non-i-moose" <someone@somewhere.com>

I have a family photo that's about 35 years old -- 2-1/2 inches square. It was mounted in a metal frame with the photo against the glass. I'm trying to remove it but a portion of the photo is stuck to the glass. I tried to slide a razor blade between the photo and the glass but it looks as though this will only ruin the photo by tearing off the top layer of the photo -- which contains the photo. Any suggestions as to how to separate photo from glass?? Thanks. "A-non-i-moose" <someone@somewhere.com>

> What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by > her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of > her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 > copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the > children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they > get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) > > (nothing is easy in genealogy tho) > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> Yes, the bottom line is 'do what works for you,' but I suspect you'd like some ideas about what others do in order to select what might work. My cousin keeps all the copies of her census records by year and alphabetical by family surname within that year. I prefer to keep my census with the head of household name and a copy in the files of others in the home if I think I might not connect them with the head of household (m-in-law for example). I use a color for the family and am as consistent as possible with my notebooks, file folders, etc. I also color code in my database. When I get rather far back, it is hard to find enough colors, so I've had to repeat, but I started with warm colors for Mom's side and cool colors for Dad's side and I try to follow that. Not perfect and maybe a little obsessive, but it helps me to visualize where things might be. As I move further back in a line, I keep the papers in the file with of my direct line to those parents and include the sibs until I get enough to start their own family folder. Then I move the sibs into the parents' file unless I'm interested and have enough to give them their own file. Basically, I'm organizing the way I think about my lines and trying to keep the tools (like folders color coordinated) working to reinforce the way I see the line in my minds eye. What I am thinking of doing is writing on the front of every file what I have found and notes of what I need to look for so that I can tell at a glance where I'm at. Wish I had thought of that when I started. OH, and within each folder I try to keep the papers in the same order, birth certificates first etc., and will include sub folders for each immediate family member. I fail at this a lot. Not very scientific, but I thought I'd share how I made my choices. I still struggle sometimes with where to put something and, when in doubt, make copies to include in my alternative choices. Hope this helps some SHARON Zingery <szingery@sbcglobal.net>

> > What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? > > > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by > > her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of > > her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 > > copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the > > children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they > > get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) > > > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> > > Yes, there's an easy solution :)) > > File your papers the way that's easiest for you :)) > > I keep all my families together and make an additional copy of > marriage documents to go in with the other family. Everything is > easy to find and all cross-referenced and in chronological order. > > Charani <SGBNOSPAM@ mail2genes.invalid> I would suggest putting the source reference number on each item (in pencil) so that you can refer directly to your list of [computerized] sources. Regards, Arnold -- <><><><><<><><><><><><> Arrowhead Images <surveyor999 AT a-znet.com> <><><><><<><><><><><><> I prefer the earth beneath my feet to be less TERRA and more FIRMA! AE Palmer <surveyor999@a-znet.com>

> Got a question for you experts about photo preservation. > > Have recently acquired a family photo album where most of the > pictures are almost 100 years old. They are on the heavy card stock > and in one of those padded velvet albums, but the album itself is > falling apart. I intend to scan all these so that I can share them > with various family members. But when I take them out of the album > it may tear the pages slightly. Am I better off to put them back in > this album and keep them that way or should I put them in protective > covers and store in a different notebook? Some of them are tin > types. What is the best way to preserve them? > > Patricia Kantzer If the album is falling apart anyway maybe you should consider getting it rebound. Consult a bookbinder. He may be able to take it apart safely and then rebind it when you've scanned them. Tin types - dunno. It sounds like a question for a specialist conservator. -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk>

> What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by > her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of > her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 > copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the > children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they > get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) > > (nothing is easy in genealogy tho) > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> Allocate each document an index number and file by number and set up a card index file. You wouldn't need very big cards, just enough to hold the card and the index number. Write out and file alphabetically as many variations of the name as you want. If you're also using software then you don't need the card file - just enter the index number in some convenient field. Or, as everyone else says, whatever works for you. -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk>

> L.L. Scott wrote: > > > Every online computer should have good internet security software. > > As a web surfer you will be following a lot of links. > > The very best internet security keeps you off the internet. You can > do the same thing more cheaply by cancelling your ISP. > > (G) > > Cheryl Singhals <singhals@erols.com> That would be no fun, I am so old that is the only way I can live on the edge :-)

Got a question for you experts about photo preservation. Have recently acquired a family photo album where most of the pictures are almost 100 years old. They are on the heavy card stock and in one of those padded velvet albums, but the album itself is falling apart. I intend to scan all these so that I can share them with various family members. But when I take them out of the album it may tear the pages slightly. Am I better off to put them back in this album and keep them that way or should I put them in protective covers and store in a different notebook? Some of them are tin types. What is the best way to preserve them? Pat "Patricia Kantzer" <mkdoc@roadrunner.com>

> What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by > her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of > her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 > copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the > children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they > get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> Yes, there's an easy solution :)) File your papers the way that's easiest for you :)) I keep all my families together and make an additional copy of marriage documents to go in with the other family. Everything is easy to find and all cross-referenced and in chronological order. Charani <SGBNOSPAM@ mail2genes.invalid>

L.L. Scott wrote: > Every online computer should have good internet security software. > As a web surfer you will be following a lot of links. The very best internet security keeps you off the internet. You can do the same thing more cheaply by cancelling your ISP. (G) Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>

> What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by > her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of > her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 > copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the > children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they > get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) > > (nothing is easy in genealogy tho) > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> Nancy, I think this is one of those questions best answered by saying "whatever works for you". It doesn't seem to me that somebody else's prescription for what is, essentially, a personal preference is going to be particularly effective. The proof of the pudding is whether you can find what you're looking for in your files and whether your system makes sense to you. Swell Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford Bob Melson <amia9018@mypacks.net>

> What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy > paperwork? > > I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies > by her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the > initial of her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps > you make 2 copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. > Also do the children get filed with their parents even after > marriage or do they get a separate file? Hoping for an easy > solution :o) > > (nothing is easy in genealogy tho) > > Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com> I don't know how others do it but I file by head of family last name. For instance: COLEMAN Then I subfile it by family generation: Youngs Levi/Lucy Katherine This has been easier for me. I can't wait to hear other people's solutions. Terrie "Terrie Milligan" <Terrie@cavibigoaks.com>

What is the "standard" for the filing system to genealogy paperwork? I know that when a woman gets married, you still maintain copies by her maiden name. So then, how do you file them - by the initial of her maiden name or with her husband's name? Perhaps you make 2 copies - one for her and one for the husbands file. Also do the children get filed with their parents even after marriage or do they get a separate file? Hoping for an easy solution :o) (nothing is easy in genealogy tho) TIA Nancy Nancy <nposs1936@yahoo.com>

OneSource Comprehensive Directory Index http://www.academic-genealogy.com/onesource.htm Alphabetical Index: A to Z for the Family Genealogy and History Internet Education Directory. Instructions for use of Country - Nation Area Index: A to Z at Ancestor Roots Information. Go to your country of interest; [SAMPLE: ITALY]. BEGIN at: Ancestor Roots Information http://www.academic-genealogy.com/onesource.htm#Country_Indexing_of_Family_Genealogy_&_History_Internet_Education_Directory EXAMPLE: [SAME FORMAT FOR ANY COUNTRY] Evaluation format for sample country is duplicated for every other world country. Every national site in the world, with information related to their civil records, culture, genealogy, libraries, museums, printed - country family history outlines, country studies groups, individual identity information, indigenous peoples, etc., is now online here. RESEARCH NOTES: (1) Numerous Wikipedia articles are country connected with all known: - Country Documents [Credible Agency Information] - Numerous Online Encyclopedia References - Country Libraries and Museums - Country Universities: Education - Country Culture - Country Studies from Global Web Sites - Country Civil Registration - Country Research Guidance - Country Vital Records (2) Links correctly categorized by patron interests; related to all of the family group unit affairs of life. (3) Title inclusive of all links within the realm of genealogy, from the quality and standards perspective of worldwide higher educational institutions and their educated colleagues; other related constituencies outreach, by effective use of digitization and the Internet. --------------------------------------------------------------- Current Newsletter Reference: International Federation of Library Associations & Institutions Academic and Research Libraries Section --- Newsletter (pdf) Number 42, December 2008, page 8: "World University Guide" Article Title: Higher Education World University Guide http://www.ifla.org/VII/s2/pub/s2-newsletter-december08.pdf JacobSmith <tinster2@yahoo.com>

Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com> wrote: > > [ For those who can't or don't want to follow those links, the > > executive summary is that The Generations Network (the parent > > company of Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com, publisher of FTM) > > is not owned or related to the LDS Church. On the other hand, > > TGN is based in Provo and pretty much inherently there's some > > degree of interaction between TGN and the LDS Church. - Mod ] > > Dear Mod: > > A number of times I have read that one should not open/follow > links. Your reference above causes me now to seek an answer to that > troubling question: why not? What is inherently dangerous (to one's > computer) in so doing? It depends on the context in which that advice is given. If you get e-mail from a spammer which gives web links, it could be dangerous to follow them. If you get an e-mail from someone you know and trust with a reference to a web site, then it would be OK to follow the link. But generally it is safest to trun off HTML code in e-mail messages altogether. It isn't necessary for communication, and wastes a lot of bandwidth, because it sends two copies of a message, and the HTML version can be ten times as long as the original because of the fancy formatting codes. But Web surfing depends on following links from one site to another, and that is the main purpose of the Web, and why it is a web, so you can follow links. So it's generally OK to follow Web links on the Web, but not in unsolicited e-mail messages you receive from strangers. If you get an e-mail message (or a newsgroup posting) which consists only of a URL, with no description, it is best not to follow it. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com>

Every online computer should have good internet security software. As a web surfer you will be following a lot of links. "L.L. Scott" <llscott2000@bellsouth.net>

> Good Morning Bob, > > I finally took your advice and bought: > > Genealogy Online by Crowe, Elizabeth Powell > > The Complete Idiot's Guide to Genealogy, 2nd Edition By: Christine > Rose, Kay Germain Ingalls > > Still awaiting their arrival though.. > > It's beginning to be an obsession almost. I think I'm going to need > to go buy a file box to keep all this documentation in. > > Thank you Bob for all of your well seasoned and wise advice. I've > been listening to you actually for years now and learning from you, > even though you didn't know I've been out here listening. > > Terrie Milligan If you know a Boy Scout, ask him where you can buy a copy of the Merit Badge book for Genealogy. It has everything you really need to know to get started, I've frequently used it as a quick-reference in the field, and it's under $5. Can't beat that with a stick. If you don't know a Boy Scout, try http://www.scouting.org/ or google for "Boy Scouts of America" Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>