> The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith > and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] > > An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two > other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the > 2009 map. > > I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in > which the streets would be named, but after trying several > acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. > > The question now becomes -- which is more likely > > A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out > of the center of town > /or/ > B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into > the center of town? > > I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without > finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. > > Cheryl Singhals <singhals@erols.com> My guess is that you would look at a map of the town and whatever street seems to lead into town and down the section of town with stores would be named Main street. Clerk's weren't always the ones who named the streets. Most times the folks who lived on them did. Most times Main Street was most likely the street that held the most of the stores located in that town Pat "Patricia Kantzer" <mkdoc@roadrunner.com>

> The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith > and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] > > An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two > other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the > 2009 map. > > I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in > which the streets would be named, but after trying several > acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. > > The question now becomes -- which is more likely > > A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out > of the center of town > /or/ > B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into > the center of town? > > I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without > finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. > > Cheryl Singhals Maybe he'd order the streets in the same direction as the house numbering runs. Of course this simply replaces one the problem with another... -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk>

> > The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith > > and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] > > > > An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two > > other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the > > 2009 map. > > > > I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in > > which the streets would be named, but after trying several > > acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. > > > > The question now becomes -- which is more likely > > > > A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out > > of the center of town > > /or/ > > B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into > > the center of town? > > > > I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without > > finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. > > > > Cheryl Singhals <singhals@erols.com> > > Hmmm. Dunno if it applies here, but the military convention is to > "read right, up": from a given point, read to its right (east), > then up (north). While this has to do more with map grids, it can > also apply to locating objects in relation to a known start point. > > That said, I'd also ask which way the streets on the map run and > whether they're in a N-S/E-W grid. Might not help, given the vague > description in the document, but ... > > Steamin' Ol' Bob Melson > (but it's a DRY heat!) Elm is roughly E-W; Smith is roughly N-S; logic, that cute little tweeting bird, suggests Main is also N-S but unless I find it, who knows? Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>

> I think to be certain of the answer we'd need to see the original > plat map for the warranted land, the subsequent patent, and each > successive deed to know what restrictions (especially mineral > rights) may have been retained with each transaction. I would > hazard a guess that the payment to the Commonwealth could have been > to remove some previously held restriction on mineral rights but > we'd need to see the previous transactions to know for certain. > > Joan <JYoung6180@aol.com> Without wishing to argue about it UTC, but ... are we sure the concept of Mineral Rights existed in Pennsylvania in 1788? If yes, fine, I've learned something today; if no, is there a way to become sure? Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>

> The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith > and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] > > An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two > other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the > 2009 map. > > I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in > which the streets would be named, but after trying several > acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. > > The question now becomes -- which is more likely > > A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out > of the center of town > /or/ > B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into > the center of town? > > I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without > finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. > > Cheryl Singhals <singhals@erols.com> Is there a Main street? If not did Main Street get renamed since the map was drawn. With my ancestors there are several cases where the streets were renamed since they were involved with them. Is Main street listed in old street directories and old newspapers? Keith Nuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>

> The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith > and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] > > An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two > other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the > 2009 map. > > I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in > which the streets would be named, but after trying several > acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. > > The question now becomes -- which is more likely > > A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out > of the center of town > /or/ > B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into > the center of town? > > I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without > finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. > > Cheryl Singhals <singhals@erols.com> Hmmm. Dunno if it applies here, but the military convention is to "read right, up": from a given point, read to its right (east), then up (north). While this has to do more with map grids, it can also apply to locating objects in relation to a known start point. That said, I'd also ask which way the streets on the map run and whether they're in a N-S/E-W grid. Might not help, given the vague description in the document, but ... Steamin' Ol' Bob (but it's a DRY heat!) -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. Thomas Jefferson Bob Melson <amia9018@mypacks.net>

Back taxes not paid by Powell? Fee for recording the deed? But, are we sure 26pounds and change was a reasonable sum for 150 acres? Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>

Maybe John Powell had not kept up with the taxes on the land and they needed to be paid. Pat "Patricia Kantzer" <mkdoc@roadrunner.com>

> Why would Michael ZIMMERMAN pay twenty six pounds+ to the > Commonwealth of PA for a tract of land on which John POWELL had obtained > a warrant and lived on the land for quite a number of years? > > John POWELL obtained a warrant in 1769 for this tract of land. and in > 1788 made out a deed for the land to Michael ZIMMERMAN and Jacob BYERS. > > I don't understand why the price of the land was paid to the > Commonwealth of PA rather than to John POWELL. > > TIA > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com> > > Patent P 17 Page 470 > > The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. To all to whom > these presents shall come, Greeting. Know ye That in Consideration of > the Monies paid by sum of twenty six pounds, two shillings & six pence > lawful > Money now paid by Michael Zimmerman unto the Receiver Generals Office of > this Commonwealth there is granted by the said Commonwealth unto the said > Michael Zimmerman a certain tract of land called ?Zeeland? Situate in > Pitt > Township Westmoreland County. Beginning at a Walnut then by High barren > hills, North twenty two degrees West twenty two perches to a > Chestnut, North fifty four degrees East forty three perches to a Sugar, > North thirty six > degrees East sixty seven perches to a Walnut, North sixty degrees East > thirty five perches to an Oak, South eighty six degrees East sixteen > perches to a Sugar > tree, North fifty five degrees East fifty three perches to a white oak, > North twenty nine degrees West sixty five perches to a Spanish oak, North > seventy three perches & > an half to a white oak, North forty seven degrees East forty five perches > to a black oak, North > sixty seven degrees East sixty perches to a white oak, South fifty nine > degrees east twenty nine > perches to a buttonwood, South nine degrees East twelve perches to a white > oak, East forty one perches > to a Hickory, North seventy two degrees East thirty six perches to a > buttonwood, South thirty seven degrees West two hundred and forty perches > to a post, South fifty four degrees West two hundred & ten perches to the > Beginning, Containing One hundred fifty three Acres > two thirds & allowance of six perCent for Roads & Cetera. Which said Tract > was surveyed > in pursuance of an Warrant Application No. 3362 dated 13th June 1769 > granted to John Powell and Whereas the said John Powell by Deed dated 11th > July 1788 Conveyed > the same to the said tract of land to Michael Zimmerman & Jacob Byers And > the said > Jacob Byers and the said Jacob Byers and by Deed dated 4th September 1789 > Conveyed all the right in the said described Tract of land to the said > Michael Zimmerman > to whom a Warrant of Acceptance Issued 9th November 1795 with the > Appointed > monies To have and to hold the said Tract or parcel of Land with the > Appointed > names unto the said Michael Zimmerman and his heirs to the use of him the > said > Michael Zimmerman his heirs and Assigns forever free and Clear of all > Restrictions & > Reservations As to Mines, Royalties, Quit rents or otherwise excepting and > reserving > only the fifth part of all Gold and Silver Ore for the use of this > Commonwealth > to be delivered at the pits mouth Clear of all Charges. In Witness whereof > Thomas Mifflin Governor > of the said Commonwealth hath hereto Set his hand & Caused the State Seal > to be hereunto affixed the second > day of Decemb in the year if our Lord One thousand Seven hundred & ninety > five & of the Commonwealth the twentieth > Attest James Trimble Tho Mifflin {SEAL} > Deputy Secy > Inrolled the 12th December 1795 > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com> I think to be certain of the answer we'd need to see the original plat map for the warranted land, the subsequent patent, and each successive deed to know what restrictions (especially mineral rights) may have been retained with each transaction. I would hazard a guess that the payment to the Commonwealth could have been to remove some previously held restriction on mineral rights but we'd need to see the previous transactions to know for certain. Joan JYoung6180@aol.com

The 1833 document says the man lives on "Elm Street between Smith and Main." [Street names are fictious for the exercise.] An 1833 map shows Elm and Smith, but not Main. Smith is between two other streets whose names on the 1833 map match the names on the 2009 map. I thought perhaps there was a convention that covered the order in which the streets would be named, but after trying several acquaintances and a couple total strangers, I don't think so. The question now becomes -- which is more likely A: that the clerk names the streets as if he were moving out of the center of town /or/ B: that the clerk names the streets as if he were coming into the center of town? I already /know/ there's no way to tell with certainty without finding Main street on a map; I'm looking for a bread-crumb. All help appreciated. Cheryl singhals <singhals@erols.com>

[ Anyone have a good answer to this one? - Mod ] > Why would Michael ZIMMERMAN pay twenty six pounds+ to the > Commonwealth of PA for a tract of land on which John POWELL had obtained a > warrant and lived on the land for quite a number of years? > > John POWELL obtained a warrant in 1769 for this tract of land. and in > 1788 made out a deed for the land to Michael ZIMMERMAN and Jacob BYERS. > > I don't understand why the price of the land was paid to the > Commonwealth of PA rather than to John POWELL. > > TIA > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com> > > Patent P 17 Page 470 > > The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. To all to whom > these presents shall come, Greeting. Know ye That in Consideration of > the Monies paid by sum of twenty six pounds, two shillings & six pence > lawful > Money now paid by Michael Zimmerman unto the Receiver Generals Office of > this Commonwealth there is granted by the said Commonwealth unto the said > Michael Zimmerman a certain tract of land called ?Zeeland? Situate in > Pitt > Township Westmoreland County. Beginning at a Walnut then by High barren > hills, North twenty two degrees West twenty two perches to a > Chestnut, North fifty four degrees East forty three perches to a Sugar, > North thirty six > degrees East sixty seven perches to a Walnut, North sixty degrees East > thirty five perches to an Oak, South eighty six degrees East sixteen > perches to a Sugar > tree, North fifty five degrees East fifty three perches to a white oak, > North twenty nine degrees West sixty five perches to a Spanish oak, North > seventy three perches & > an half to a white oak, North forty seven degrees East forty five perches > to a black oak, North > sixty seven degrees East sixty perches to a white oak, South fifty nine > degrees east twenty nine > perches to a buttonwood, South nine degrees East twelve perches to a white > oak, East forty one perches > to a Hickory, North seventy two degrees East thirty six perches to a > buttonwood, South thirty seven degrees West two hundred and forty perches > to a post, South fifty four degrees West two hundred & ten perches to the > Beginning, Containing One hundred fifty three Acres > two thirds & allowance of six perCent for Roads & Cetera. Which said Tract > was surveyed > in pursuance of an Warrant Application No. 3362 dated 13th June 1769 > granted to John Powell and Whereas the said John Powell by Deed dated 11th > July 1788 Conveyed > the same to the said tract of land to Michael Zimmerman & Jacob Byers And > the said > Jacob Byers and the said Jacob Byers and by Deed dated 4th September 1789 > Conveyed all the right in the said described Tract of land to the said > Michael Zimmerman > to whom a Warrant of Acceptance Issued 9th November 1795 with the > Appointed > monies To have and to hold the said Tract or parcel of Land with the > Appointed > names unto the said Michael Zimmerman and his heirs to the use of him the > said > Michael Zimmerman his heirs and Assigns forever free and Clear of all > Restrictions & > Reservations As to Mines, Royalties, Quit rents or otherwise excepting and > reserving > only the fifth part of all Gold and Silver Ore for the use of this > Commonwealth > to be delivered at the pits mouth Clear of all Charges. In Witness whereof > Thomas Mifflin Governor > of the said Commonwealth hath hereto Set his hand & Caused the State Seal > to be hereunto affixed the second > day of Decemb in the year if our Lord One thousand Seven hundred & ninety > five & of the Commonwealth the twentieth > Attest James Trimble Tho Mifflin {SEAL} > Deputy Secy > Inrolled the 12th December 1795 > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com>

> Brian, when you go world wide, please start with Ireland. > > Thank you > > [ Ireland and the UK are planned to be the first areas we do. - Mod ] > > "donkelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> Anyone and everyone who has or operates a genealogy-related site should make certain that their site is listed with the index. That's probably the best way to help out. A while ago, I noted that Linkpendium was missing some of mine, so I not only got them listed, I also got some of the surnames listed under their alternate spellings that all branched from the same root surname. For those with a rare surname, consider getting it listed as a domain name under the ".NAME" TLD. It might actually be available! "D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org>

> Brian, when you go world wide, please start with Ireland. > > Thank you > > [ Ireland and the UK are planned to be the first areas we do. > - Mod ] > > donkelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> Doing great. Way to go. don, NC, IGP

>> Brian, when you go world wide, please start with Ireland. >> >> Thank you >> >> [ Ireland and the UK are planned to be the first areas we do. >> - Mod ] >> >> donkelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> > > I know it's difficult, if not impossible, to avoid, but what I find > most disappointing and frustrating about linkpendium is the speed > with which it takes one to "pay for play" sites like Ancestry. It > would probably take a fundamental reorganization of your database, > but it would be nice to have a top level "Free Sites" link that, in > fact, presented only free sites to me and the other cheap SOBs "out > there". As is, because it seems to me that I'm increasingly > directed to the pay-to-play sites with something akin to the speed > of summer lightning, I find I only rarely and reluctantly attempt to > use linkpendium, 8-gazillion links or not. > > Just a thought. > > Bob Melson <amia9018@mypacks.net> Hi Bob - I just did a quick count and about 92% of Linkpendium's links are to free sites. If you don't want to visit the remaining 8% that are pay-for-play sites, they're all clearly marked with a green "($)". You can either ignore them or, if you don't even want to know they're there, use GreaseMonkey or something similar with your browser. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 leverich@mtpinos.com

> Brian, when you go world wide, please start with Ireland. > > Thank you > > [ Ireland and the UK are planned to be the first areas we do. > - Mod ] > > donkelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net> I know it's difficult, if not impossible, to avoid, but what I find most disappointing and frustrating about linkpendium is the speed with which it takes one to "pay for play" sites like Ancestry. It would probably take a fundamental reorganization of your database, but it would be nice to have a top level "Free Sites" link that, in fact, presented only free sites to me and the other cheap SOBs "out there". As is, because it seems to me that I'm increasingly directed to the pay-to-play sites with something akin to the speed of summer lightning, I find I only rarely and reluctantly attempt to use linkpendium, 8-gazillion links or not. Just a thought. Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. Thomas Jefferson Bob Melson <amia9018@mypacks.net>

Brian, when you go world wide, please start with Ireland. Thank you [ Ireland and the UK are planned to be the first areas we do. - Mod ] donkelly donkelly <ocollaugh@comcast.net>

Hi all! It's been nine months since I've posted about Linkpendium, and during that time we've been locating and adding an average of about 110,000 sources of genealogical information every month. Linkpendium now has links to 8,030,064 sources of genealogical information. It is numerically by far the largest directory of genealogical resources on the Internet. In fact, Linkpendium is to our knowledge the largest human-edited directory of *any* kind on the Web. We're kinda jazzed about breaking 8,000,000 links, though obviously there are a lot more resources for us to find and categorize. The links are categorized either by: o Surnames WORLD-WIDE (7,087,514 links). o American localities, generally county-level (942,550 links). We do not yet provide world-wide locality coverage, though we plan to phase in world-wide locality coverage as resources allow. The URL is: http://www.linkpendium.com/ Webmasters are welcome to link to either our homepage or deeply into the pages that might be relevant to visitors to your sites. Web- masters of locality sites, like USGW and ALHN county coordinators, and Webmasters of one-name-study sites are welcome to "steal our links" for use on their own sites. All we ask is that you include a link to us somewhere on your site. See our "Acceptable Use Policy" for details. We are actively searching the Internet for genealogy sites which should be added to the directory. If you are a Webmaster, List Administrator, or Board Administrator for a genealogical resource, or if you are a researcher who knows a particularly useful Internet data source, *PLEASE* check the appropriate Linkpendium category and use the Add-A-Link tool if we haven't included your resource yet. We don't want to miss your resource! And everyone, if you like what we're doing, please tell other folks about us on the lists and message boards. Thanks all, and enjoy! -B -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 leverich@linkpendium.com

1. if this is the same man what does this record tell us? Did John POWELL return to live in Butler Co., PA? Had he retained His residence in IN, would not the document so reflect? There is a another possibility. In the 1860 census in Rush County Indiana, there is a John Powell (83 years old) living with a James A Powell, Rachel Powell, and four children. It is possible the John Powell and some of his children moved west along the Ohio river, and, in old age, John went to live with a grandson James Powell. While this John Powell is listed as being from Maryland it is possible that no one living new exactly where he was born and only new it was back east. (Don't fall into the trap of thinking that people were stationary during this period. Even as early as the 1840 the canal system in Ohio and Indiana was in commercial operation, make travel relatively easy. I have one ancestor who grew up in Philadelphia, moved to Indiana, then west to Kansas, and back to Indiana) If this is the same John Powell, a possible scenario is that there was a John Powell Jr. who stayed in Pennsylvania on the family farm. 2. please explain the meaning and purpose of this court document found in Register of Deeds office. (I am not versed in legal documents) This seems to be a document to clear up a legal mess. The document is trying to provide a clear title to property being purchased by John Powell and Joseph COOPER from the heirs of Benj CHEW and Samuel POWELL. The arrangement is being handled by John BREDIN the attorney. Just a guess: John Powell, a grandson, and Joseph Cooper, a grandson-in-law, are trying to get clear title to the family farm. Son Samuel Powell and a son-in-law Benji Chew farmed the property for years and did not worry about the legality of the situation. 3. please view the census link below (Johnson Twp., Gibson Co., IN ancestry p345) and tell me where John was born? As indexed in Ancestry and the way I would read it it is Pennsylvania. Barbara McLeod wrote: > John POWELL was in Butler County 1820-1840. He disappeared from the > census and other Butler Co., PA records after that census of 1840. > Other researchers have found a John POWELL in the 1850 census of > Johnson Twp., Gibson Co., IN and claim this is the John POWELL of > Butler Co., PA. Certainly the age of the John POWELL of IN, and the > given name of his wife, fit with Butler County records. > > Questions: 1. if this is the same man what does this record tell us? > Did John POWELL return to live in Butler Co., PA? Had he retained > his residence in IN, would not the document so reflect? > > 2. please explain the meaning and purpose of this court document > found in Register of Deeds office. > > 3. please view the census link below (Johnson Twp., Gibson Co., IN > ancestry p345) and tell me where John was born? > > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/Default.aspx?htx=3DView&r=3Dan&dbid=3D805= > 4&iid=3DINM432_147-0249&fn=3DJohn&ln=3DPowell&st=3Dd&ssrc=3D&pid=3D1850672 > > My niece and I appreciate all help. > > Barbara Mac > > > > Recorded May 1st AD 1851 > Butler Co., PA Deed Book S, p285 > John POWELL to Joseph COOPER 22nd April 1851 > > Joseph COOPER > And > John POWELL > > Whereas I purchased with Joseph COOPER fifty seven acres and four > perches of land situate in East Conoquennessing Township, Butler > County of John BREDIN the attorney in fact of the executors of Benj > CHEW deceased and the article for the purchase was drawn between the > executors of the said Benjamin CHEW, deceased, and The amount paid > on the article to this time has been paid by the heirs of Samuel > POWELL and whereas the deed for the said land has been made by the > executors of the said Benj CHEW, dec'd to me although it is not yet > delivered, being in the hands of John BREDIN until the balance of > the purchase money is paid or a bond given to secure the payment of > it, The said purchase was made for the heirs of Samuel POWELL and I > hereby declare that I hold the deed in Trust when it may be > delivered to me for the said heirs and also subject to whatever of > the balance of the purchase money they may have to pay that I ought > to pay for my part of. Witness my hand and seal this twenty second > day of April AD eighteen hundred and fifty one. > > /s/ John Powell > > Witness present > Jas JONES > Benjamin RICHARDSON > > Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com>

John POWELL was in Butler County 1820-1840. He disappeared from the census and other Butler Co., PA records after that census of 1840. Other researchers have found a John POWELL in the 1850 census of Johnson Twp., Gibson Co., IN and claim this is the John POWELL of Butler Co., PA. Certainly the age of the John POWELL of IN, and the given name of his wife, fit with Butler County records. Questions: 1. if this is the same man what does this record tell us? Did John POWELL return to live in Butler Co., PA? Had he retained his residence in IN, would not the document so reflect? 2. please explain the meaning and purpose of this court document found in Register of Deeds office. 3. please view the census link below (Johnson Twp., Gibson Co., IN ancestry p345) and tell me where John was born? http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/Default.aspx?htx=3DView&r=3Dan&dbid=3D805= 4&iid=3DINM432_147-0249&fn=3DJohn&ln=3DPowell&st=3Dd&ssrc=3D&pid=3D1850672 My niece and I appreciate all help. Barbara Mac Recorded May 1st AD 1851 Butler Co., PA Deed Book S, p285 John POWELL to Joseph COOPER 22nd April 1851 Joseph COOPER And John POWELL Whereas I purchased with Joseph COOPER fifty seven acres and four perches of land situate in East Conoquennessing Township, Butler County of John BREDIN the attorney in fact of the executors of Benj CHEW deceased and the article for the purchase was drawn between the executors of the said Benjamin CHEW, deceased, and The amount paid on the article to this time has been paid by the heirs of Samuel POWELL and whereas the deed for the said land has been made by the executors of the said Benj CHEW, dec'd to me although it is not yet delivered, being in the hands of John BREDIN until the balance of the purchase money is paid or a bond given to secure the payment of it, The said purchase was made for the heirs of Samuel POWELL and I hereby declare that I hold the deed in Trust when it may be delivered to me for the said heirs and also subject to whatever of the balance of the purchase money they may have to pay that I ought to pay for my part of. Witness my hand and seal this twenty second day of April AD eighteen hundred and fifty one. /s/ John Powell Witness present Jas JONES Benjamin RICHARDSON Barbara McLeod <1brown1blue@gmail.com>

On Sun, 17 May 2009 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT), "Roberta" <gmarob@gmail.com> wrote: > No one in my family is at all interested in carrying on the > research. I'm mainly using the numbering system because I found it > -for me- the simplest to use with my paper files. I like filing by > family group. It keeps immediate family right there and the > numbering helps find earlier ancestors. > > My own feeling, too, is that most people use a gen program these > days, so numbering really doesn't make any sense in that way. > > So, I really don't need a numbering system, but use it because my > brain seems to like it! I use the numbers my genealogy program assigns to each person. That doesn't keep the paper files in family groups, and I don't even try to do that. I give each document in my paper files its own serial number and file them in numerical order, and have a computer index program to find them again. My genealogy program (Legacy) allows me to enter the document number in the source records for each person, so it's easy to find in my numerically ordered files. Ahnentafel and descendant numbering only applies to one report out of many possible ones. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com>