John Sents fed this fish to the penguins: > In an old (1934) family letter there is reference to "Uncle Wicta". > It is written quite legibly, but it certainly seems like an unusual > first name. So I'm wondering if it is right, or if I'm mis-reading > it somehow. If not actually 'Wicta" what could it be, or is it some > kind of nickname? > > "Uncle Wicta" was born Abt 1820 and came from Prussia Bef 1850. Any possibility that it might have been a pet name derived from someone's mispronunciation of "Victor" (especially given the germanic pronunciation of "W" as a "vee", and "V" as an "eff"). Since you quote "Uncle Wicta" I'd propose some young nephew/niece who had trouble with "Uncle Victor", and the childish pronunciation was picked up and kept... -- > ============================================================== < > wlfraed@ix.netcom.com | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff < > ============================================================== < > Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/ < > Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/ <

I have come across a few Wiktors in my Polish research, (also Wiktoria). They are not as common as other Prussian names, but they were used. That would be my guess. Carolyn Cptoehedd@aol.com

It might be Victor since the German W is pronounced as an English V. Marcia C. Newcome ArborArdor@aol.com

> So far as I can tell in VA/WV/MD, it means they married each other. > I've seen consent notes where the father gives his permission for > his daughter to intermarry with X. There MAY be some obscure > legality being observed, but if the concern is cousin-marriage, > don't bet on it. And particularly, don't bet on anyone concerned > (bride, groom, parents of, minister, JP, Clerk of Court) being > _aware_ of it if true. > > Cheryl <singhals@erols.com> I've mostly seen those when the daughter was below a statutory age of consent. This typically varied from 16-21 years. Unless other marriage records (or parental consents, for that matter) in the same place customarily say something other than "intermarriage," I wouldn't worry about obscure legalities either. Austin W. Spencer "Austin W. Spencer" <AustinWSpencer@cox.net>

>>John Sents wrote: >> > >> > How's the best way to handle entering multiple surname spelling >> > variations in my genealogy program... when the person used different >> > ones or the records show different ones? >> >>I use TMG and record all variations that I find with the source of >>the variation. The variations how in the pick list so if I come >>across the variation I can find the person. >> >>bob gillis <rpgillis@bellatlantic.net> > >Bob, thanks for your reply.... your response came closest to >answering my intended question. Guess I could've made it clearer ( >but side benefit is that the other responders gave me some good tips >on how to decide what variation to use, if I want to pick only one). > >I didn't think of using the AKA feature like you suggested. DUH! >But this leads me to another question/problem: When I 'publish' my >data on, say, RootsWeb World Connect, will the SEARCH function look >at the alternate spellings coded as AKAs? (I don't think so, but >I'm not sure). > >Back to my original question, what I was wondering is: if there is >some accepted 'scheme' for entering the applicable Surname >vatiations, such as: SENTS/Sentz/Zentz or SENTS (Sentz Zentz)? This >way, someone doing a SEARCH on any one of the variations gets my >data. > >jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents) Bob, sorry, but I intended this reply for Mick Gurling.

>> How's the best way to handle entering multiple surname spelling >> variations in my genealogy program... when the person used different >> ones or the records show different ones? >> >> jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents) > >Varying with the individual I use the spelling that seems to be the >one they most commonly used or maybe as their birth/baptism was >entered (judgement call). Then many genealogical pprograms have an >'also known as' field (in legacy the AKA field opens the dialog as >'Alternate name spellings') where I enter the variants. > >"Mick Gurling" <No.Spam.mickg@toto.com> Mick, thanks for your reply.... your response came closest to answering my intended question. Guess I could've made it clearer ( but side benefit is that the other responders gave me some good tips on how to decide what variation to use, if I want to pick only one). I didn't think of using the AKA feature like you suggested. DUH! But this leads me to another question/problem: When I 'publish' my data on, say, RootsWeb World Connect, will the SEARCH function look at the alternate spellings coded as AKAs? (I don't think so, but I'm not sure). Back to my original question, what I was wondering is: if there is some accepted 'scheme' for entering the applicable Surname vatiations, such as: SENTS/Sentz/Zentz or SENTS (Sentz Zentz)? This way, someone doing a SEARCH on any one of the variations gets my data. jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents)

> In an old (1934) family letter there is reference to "Uncle Wicta". > It is written quite legibly, but it certainly seems like an unusual > first name. So I'm wondering if it is right, or if I'm mis-reading > it somehow. If not actually 'Wicta" what could it be, or is it some > kind of nickname? > > "Uncle Wicta" was born Abt 1820 and came from Prussia Bef 1850. > > jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents) John- Could it be Victor? Or possibly how Victor sounded if spoken by someone with an accent? Often V sounds like a W and "or" could sound like "a" as well. Joan JYoung6180@aol.com

> hi lists, A question if I might, Entering family into my Prog, > How would you enter a person of Catholic faith that is a Nun of the > order of St Agnes. I don`t feel right leaving her as an unmarried > woman. Is she not married to Christ in the church ?? I now show > her with a husband named " Sister Martina of St Agnes " !! , Phil > > "Phil Stevens" <joephil@nwlink.com> Phil - I have a nun in my family also. I have listed with her family with the name she was give at birth: Corilla Alberta Lapierre, b. 08 October 1895 I use FTM, and it has a field for alternate names. I have recorded her there as Sister Philias, the name she took when she became a nun. Any other information about her life can be included in your notes. For the purposes of genealogy, she would be an unmarried woman, with no descendants. The information you entered - *Sister Martina of St. Agnes* should be listed as an alternate name for your nun, not in the section where you would enter the name of the husband. Lisa llepore@juno.com

In an old (1934) family letter there is reference to "Uncle Wicta". It is written quite legibly, but it certainly seems like an unusual first name. So I'm wondering if it is right, or if I'm mis-reading it somehow. If not actually 'Wicta" what could it be, or is it some kind of nickname? "Uncle Wicta" was born Abt 1820 and came from Prussia Bef 1850. Can anyone help me here? jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents)

>John Sents wrote: > > > > How's the best way to handle entering multiple surname spelling > > variations in my genealogy program... when the person used different > > ones or the records show different ones? > >I use TMG and record all variations that I find with the source of >the variation. The variations how in the pick list so if I come >across the variation I can find the person. > >bob gillis <rpgillis@bellatlantic.net> Bob, thanks for your reply.... your response came closest to answering my intended question. Guess I could've made it clearer ( but side benefit is that the other responders gave me some good tips on how to decide what variation to use, if I want to pick only one). I didn't think of using the AKA feature like you suggested. DUH! But this leads me to another question/problem: When I 'publish' my data on, say, RootsWeb World Connect, will the SEARCH function look at the alternate spellings coded as AKAs? (I don't think so, but I'm not sure). Back to my original question, what I was wondering is: if there is some accepted 'scheme' for entering the applicable Surname vatiations, such as: SENTS/Sentz/Zentz or SENTS (Sentz Zentz)? This way, someone doing a SEARCH on any one of the variations gets my data. jsents@stny.rr.com (John Sents)

> A little help with market research - I'm looking for names of > genealogy magazines in the states with a good circulation base - I > would be grateful for all and any help. > > T K Wilton <wilton@ntlworld.com> The best and largest one that I know of is Everton's Genealogical Helper. You can find information on http://www.everton.com/ and Heritage Quest at http://www.HeritageQuest.com/ and I believe the National Genealogical Society publishes a magazine. Pat "John Kantzer" <mkdoc@frognet.net>

> A little help with market research - I'm looking for names of > genealogy magazines in the states with a good circulation base - I > would be grateful for all and any help. > > T K Wilton <wilton@ntlworld.com> I subscribe to Heritage Quest. There is a Canadian publication, Family Chronicles, which is also good, though seems fewer pages than the others. Whenever I've looked at Everton's, it seemed filled with ads and queries rather than articles. I don't know about Ancestry. Elizabeth Richardson "Elizabeth Richardson" <erichktn@worldnet.att.net>

> > County clerks are not hired to do genealogy, so they may not always > > be willing to go dust them off in the basement (or attic) unless > > you're there in person to look (or you pay or beg a local person > > they know to look at them for you). > > > > Connie > > clsheets1@prodigy.net > > My question has always been, if the clerks are telling you that the > records do not exist because of some disaster, how do you find out > if some records actually remain? And if you find out that they do, > how do you get the personnel working in the the repository to admit > that and to let you look for them? > > [ There are a number of approaches to courthouse record access: > (1) Go in person and be *extremely* polite while being persistent. > (2) Find a local gen/hist society which knows the courthouse well. > (3) Hire a local professional who knows the courthouse well. > (4) Local librarians sometimes know records better than courthouse > staff. - Mod ] > > Polly > phheld@twcny.rr.com I'll agree with the Mod. It is pitifully poor planning to accuse a man of not knowing his job and to insist you know better than he does about what he's supposed to be overseeing. Cheryl singhals@erols.com

--- snip --- > > I once was told that epilepsy was also described as lunacy, since > they thought the moon had something to do with the seizures. > > "Amie Peoples" <hismsg@cros.net> Epilepsy was very definitely in the lunacy class of diseases until quite recently -- say 1960s. Cheers -- <><><><><><><><><><><> Arrowhead Images <aepalmer@a-znet.com> <><><><><><><><><><><> I had a destiny once. All it did was get me into trouble !

> > > Where would I find descriptions or photo's of different styles of > > > burial vaults? > > > > > > Bev <brencher@earthlink.net> > > > > wallace state community college in hanceville, alabama had a pretty > > active geneaology ce program. the email is genws@hiwaay.net. even > > though i've only asked for information concerning my family, it's > > worth a try to see if someone there might have some specialized > > information in that area. > > elliotr@alltel.net (jane) writes: > > What about the association for gravestone studies? > > http://www.gravestonestudies.org/ > > Lisa > llepore@juno.com If you use the search feature on your browser and type in Burial Vaults a large list will come up. You can view the vaults and prices if you want. John

In reading your email re: homicide information; I had a cousin killed, get this, on December 6, 1941 during a filling station robbery in Gastonia, NC. A query to the local news paper resulted in silence. I was interested to learn if his killer had been captured. But given the events that transpired the next day I can see where this is inconsequental. Perhaps you can steer me in the right direction for some information. Thank You George F Curry N8tux@wideopenwest.com Columbus, Ohio

> How's the best way to handle entering multiple surname spelling > variations in my genealogy program... when the person used different > ones or the records show different ones? You might want to consider this.... In my Land(s) line the spelling for business, the family Bible and legal papers was always LANDS. However, for other family and personal papers it was always spelled LAND. This "tradition" was passed down for several generations. Carol Anne CAWils03@aol.com

> RootsWeb? All I see is how to subscribe and unsubscribe. > > [ Anyone want to give a newbie a little hand-holding? - Mod ] > > "Shirley Tomlin" <Shirley.Tomlin@ste.christushealth.org> Hello Shirley, You have to be a subscriber to post to a Rootsweb mailing list. After you subscribe you will receive an intro message explaining how the list works, how to subscribe and unsubscribe, and how to post messages to the list. The email address for posting is usually in this format: ListName-L@rootsweb.com Good luck with your searches. Regards, Joe

Phil Stevens wrote: > How would you enter a person of Catholic faith that is a Nun of the > order of St Agnes. I don`t feel right leaving her as an unmarried > woman. Is she not married to Christ in the church ?? I now show > her with a husband named " Sister Martina of St Agnes " !! , Phil >From a genealogical perspective, her name is her name given at birth. Even her religious community will keep records of her 'civilian' name. Then, depending on what program you're using, you would enter an alternate name or nickname: Title: Sister Given Name: Martina Surname: MyFamilyName Suffix: OSA Where OSA is whatever name/initials the order used to distinguish themselves. Joe - who has Sisters of Saint Martha, Notre Dame, Trappists, Augustinians, Oblates not to mention diocesan priests in his database -- Joe Makowiec can be reached at: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe Joe Makowiec <makowiec@nycap.rEMOVECAPSr.com>

John Sents wrote: > > How's the best way to handle entering multiple surname spelling > variations in my genealogy program... when the person used different > ones or the records show different ones? For my purposes, I use (a) the spelling used today in my living family or (b) the spelling I found first. When I find the immigrant name outside the 3-mile limit, I change it for the immigrant's parents backward in time. I don't say these are without objection, and I won't present them as "best", but they work for me. When I copy out the content of the document into the NOTES/More Abouts, I copy spelling as I find it there. Since it's easy to find a document where even the educated played spelling games with their names (Was it Jefferson or Franklin who didn't trust a man who could spell his name only one way?) anything else strikes me as pointless. Now, it's TRUE that I have a William Harmison of IL who may or may not be the same man as William Harmeson of OH who is the brother to Samuel Harmeson whose descendants all use eson ... but I don't have enough info on my man and they don't have enough info on theirs to be able to tell. Cheryl singhals@erols.com