Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > Partial 1881 Data > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. This is possible and is > achieved simply by following the instructions but copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, however, limitations. > Firstly, if you install only a part of the National Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the alphabetical sections installed. This > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National Index to access the data for > this region. If you double-click on an index entry for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry Error message. This > appears benign and when cleared does not affect operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only part of the data, the registry > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term change if you > expect a period of intensive searching within a single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number of years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data sets from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set required. Cheers Guy -- Wakefield England http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of St. James Churchyard, Wakefield http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > ================================ > Graham Walter >

Guy (or any other expert!) I successfully followed the instructions on your website for installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am **fairly** happy with the results. If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a second. That's all fantastic. BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. I also get similar freezes when printing. Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the NETWORK option in Viewer? If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. Thanks, Simon guy.etchells@virgin.net (Guy Etchells) wrote in message news:<3C357430.1A80B741@virgin.net>... > Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a > few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > > > > Partial 1881 Data > > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. This is possible and is > > achieved simply by following the instructions but copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, however, limitations. > > Firstly, if you install only a part of the National Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the alphabetical sections installed. This > > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National Index to access the data for > > this region. If you double-click on an index entry for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry Error message. This > > appears benign and when cleared does not affect operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only part of the data, the registry > > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term change if you > > expect a period of intensive searching within a single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > > > > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, > North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number of > years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data sets > from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and > for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the > various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply > have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set > required. > Cheers > Guy > -- > Wakefield England > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm > Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm > Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of > St. James Churchyard, Wakefield > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm > M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > > > > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > > > ================================ > > Graham Walter > >

As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs and they seem quite poor compared with yours. Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the first time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds Double click on name takes 99 seconds going back to original list takes 1 second Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region but only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a similar time to National Index Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 second Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and all the A's B's Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names clicking on name 1 sec Clicking on National Index 1 second Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British Census heading with no search screen Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that getting the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably because there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it will make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk bashing taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders Hope these obsevations help Gordon Betts "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > Guy (or any other expert!) > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > **fairly** happy with the results. > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > second. That's all fantastic. > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the > NETWORK option in Viewer? > > If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a > quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? > At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! > > FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and > I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. > > Thanks, > Simon > > guy.etchells@virgin.net (Guy Etchells) wrote in message news:<3C357430.1A80B741@virgin.net>... > > Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a > > few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > > > > > > > Partial 1881 Data > > > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. This is possible and is > > > achieved simply by following the instructions but copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, however, limitations. > > > Firstly, if you install only a part of the National Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the alphabetical sections installed. This > > > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National Index to access the data for > > > this region. If you double-click on an index entry for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry Error message. This > > > appears benign and when cleared does not affect operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only part of the data, the registry > > > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term change if you > > > expect a period of intensive searching within a single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > > > > > > > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, > > North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number of > > years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data sets > > from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and > > for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the > > various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply > > have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set > > required. > > Cheers > > Guy > > -- > > Wakefield England > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm > > Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm > > Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of > > St. James Churchyard, Wakefield > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm > > M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > > > > > > > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > > > > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > > > > > ================================ > > > Graham Walter > > >

Thanks for your reply Gordon - I tried to repeat most of your same sequence and got the following results (your timings are in brackets)... Loading National Index search screen from start takes 2 (112) seconds the first time the program is started but for me >20 seconds to cancel the search dialog and exit the program. (for you - 2 seconds if the program is exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's) Finding 17 records takes 1 (1 - 2) seconds Double click on name takes 1 (99) seconds going back to original list takes 45 (1) seconds Loading British Census from start takes 1 (1) second to East Anglia region ALWAYS for me (for you - only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a similar time to National Index) Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 (1) second Clicking on any name gives results in 1 (1) second Clicking on neighbors takes 1 (1) second Clicking on National Index takes 1-2 (1) seconds to bring up search screen and all the A's B's Search on all areas for name again takes 1 (1-2) seconds for 17 names clicking on name 1 (1) sec Clicking on National Index 40 (1) seconds Clicking on back button takes (20) 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British Census heading with no search screen Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly My PC has 512MB RAM as well but a 1Ghz Athlon processor. BTW, are you using Viewer v3.02?? I'm so confused - ours seem to be operating very differently. I actually think I prefer your software's behaviour on balance!! "gordon" <gordon.betts@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:7_k78.3970$BU3.928711@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs and > they seem quite poor compared with yours. > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the first > time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and > restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's > Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds > Double click on name takes 99 seconds > going back to original list takes 1 second > Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region but > only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a > similar time to National Index > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 > second > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second > Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and all > the A's B's > Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names > clicking on name 1 sec > Clicking on National Index 1 second > Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British > Census heading with no search screen > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that getting > the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably because > there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory > exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it will > make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk bashing > taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. > To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at > moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders > > Hope these obsevations help > > Gordon Betts > "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message > news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > > Guy (or any other expert!) > > > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > > **fairly** happy with the results. > > > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > > second. That's all fantastic. > > > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > > > Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the > > NETWORK option in Viewer? > > > > If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a > > quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? > > At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! > > > > FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and > > I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. > > > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > > guy.etchells@virgin.net (Guy Etchells) wrote in message > news:<3C357430.1A80B741@virgin.net>... > > > Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a > > > few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > > > > > > > > > > Partial 1881 Data > > > > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if > they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. > This is possible and is > > > > achieved simply by following the instructions but > copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, > however, limitations. > > > > Firstly, if you install only a part of the National > Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the > alphabetical sections installed. This > > > > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install > only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National > Index to access the data for > > > > this region. If you double-click on an index entry > for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry > Error message. This > > > > appears benign and when cleared does not affect > operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only part > of the data, the registry > > > > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to > view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term > change if you > > > > expect a period of intensive searching within a > single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > > > > > > > > > > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, > > > North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number of > > > years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data sets > > > from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and > > > for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the > > > various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply > > > have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set > > > required. > > > Cheers > > > Guy > > > -- > > > Wakefield England > > > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > > > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > > > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > > > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > > > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > > > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm > > > Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm > > > Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of > > > St. James Churchyard, Wakefield > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm > > > M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > > > > > > > > > > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > > > > > > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > Graham Walter > > > > > >