I think he wants the organization-chart sort of chart, and PAF won't do that one. I don't remember whether PAF Companion ($15, requires PAF) does, but I know PAFCompanion will do a chart with the ancestor on the left and the descendants on the right (kind of a reverse pedigree). The only program I know for sure makes the chart is Family Tree Maker. Does the free version of Legacy do it? Cheryl Eric and Jamie Simmons wrote: > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/pafonline.asp > > and it's free from the LDS church > > > "Bart" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > >>Can anyone suggest a program to produce plain old *vanilla* flavoured > > family > >>trees i.e. an automated way of producing the standard vertical tree that >>until a few years ago was done manually. >>I'm not looking for any bells & whistles such as picture clips etc. - > > just > >>the names of a couple at the top with a line coming down showing their > > issue > >>and so on. >>I'm quite willing to add the data manually but would like something that >>puts out a decent hardcopy and/or a ppt/pdf file etc. >> >>TIA >>Bart >> >> >> > > >