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    1. "Killed in the war" -- research tips
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. After you've been doing genealogical research for some time, you may find you have quite a lot of people who were "killed in the war". These usually come up in interviews with elderly relatives, and it was a brother or cousin or uncle. They don't know the regiment, or the place, or the exact date, so you record it with something like "Abt 1942" and leave the place blank. You know that the Commonealth War Graves Commission web site has a search facility, and when you look at one of these "killed in the war" people you make a mental note to check here next time you're on line. http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx But then you forget, or you can't remember who it was, and so you put it off till next time. So here's a hint for getting organised. It applies particularly to Legacy users, but other programs probably can do something similar. In Legacy, go to Search. Select males, select deaths after 1938, then create list. Select death before 1946, and "only people on this list", and create list. Then tag them, say using tag 1. Select Name -> Search -> Tagged individuals Go through the list, eliminating ones who were born before 1900 and after 1930 (double-clicK on the X to untag them). If you don't have a date of birth, you can leave them in, unless you are sure they are unlikely. You end up with a tagged list of males who died during the war. You can do something similar for WW I, and give them Tag No 2 You can print the list, so you have it to tick of ones you find, and mark otherwise those you don't find. But have it on sceeen as well. Then go on the web to: http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx and start entering the names. Unless you are absolutely certain, just enter the surname, the initial and the war. "Nationality" can be problematic. People were seconded to forces of other countries. Canadians, South Africans and others served in the RAF rather than the RCAF or SAAF. They were moved from unit to unit, and the one they enlisted in may not have been the one they died in, so unless you get hundreds of ambiguous results, leave those as "Unknown". In most cases the search is still pretty quick. When you get a hit, double click for the details, and Copy the text to the clipboard. Switch to Legacy, double click on that person in your list, and Paste the infomation to Death Notes. If there are more details on the cemetery, you can Paste those into Burial notes. Tick the person off on your paper list and move to the next one. When you've finished, go through the records on the list again, editing the information, updating the death and burial fields with the new information, and add the Commonwealth War Graves web site as a source. You may find you have a lot of exact death dates where you had an "Abt 1942". The historical notes on the cemeteries will also tell you something about the action your relatives were probably involved in. In most cases you will also find the age at death, which can give an approximate birth date if you didn't have one. Experienced researchers will probably know all this already, but if not, it can help to make your research more systematic and efficient, saving you time online (important if you have a dial-up connection), and tying up a whole lot of loose ends at once. Of course if most of your relatives lived in neutral countries, or served in the Axis forces, or in non-Commonwealth countries like the USA or Russia, then this won't be of much help! -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

    09/10/2005 05:35:50
    1. Re: "Killed in the war" -- research tips
    2. Hugh Watkins
    3. the technical term is casualities also on Australian and US and Canadian sites too if you keep careful research notes in a notebook or in a family tree program you don't forget Hugh W "Steve Hayes" <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:22a5i15ijf8hu68qgjg120qvpr8su43gih@4ax.com... > After you've been doing genealogical research for some time, you may find > you > have quite a lot of people who were "killed in the war". These usually > come up > in interviews with elderly relatives, and it was a brother or cousin or > uncle. > They don't know the regiment, or the place, or the exact date, so you > record > it with something like "Abt 1942" and leave the place blank. > > You know that the Commonealth War Graves Commission web site has a search > facility, and when you look at one of these "killed in the war" people you > make a mental note to check here next time you're on line. > > http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx > > But then you forget, or you can't remember who it was, and so you put it > off > till next time. > > So here's a hint for getting organised. It applies particularly to Legacy > users, but other programs probably can do something similar. > > In Legacy, go to Search. > > Select males, select deaths after 1938, then create list. > Select death before 1946, and "only people on this list", and create list. > > Then tag them, say using tag 1. > > Select Name -> Search -> Tagged individuals > > Go through the list, eliminating ones who were born before 1900 and after > 1930 > (double-clicK on the X to untag them). If you don't have a date of birth, > you > can leave them in, unless you are sure they are unlikely. > > You end up with a tagged list of males who died during the war. > > You can do something similar for WW I, and give them Tag No 2 > > You can print the list, so you have it to tick of ones you find, and mark > otherwise those you don't find. But have it on sceeen as well. > > Then go on the web to: > > http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx > > and start entering the names. > > Unless you are absolutely certain, just enter the surname, the initial and > the > war. "Nationality" can be problematic. People were seconded to forces of > other > countries. Canadians, South Africans and others served in the RAF rather > than > the RCAF or SAAF. They were moved from unit to unit, and the one they > enlisted > in may not have been the one they died in, so unless you get hundreds of > ambiguous results, leave those as "Unknown". In most cases the search is > still > pretty quick. > > When you get a hit, double click for the details, and Copy the text to the > clipboard. > > Switch to Legacy, double click on that person in your list, and Paste the > infomation to Death Notes. > > If there are more details on the cemetery, you can Paste those into Burial > notes. > > Tick the person off on your paper list and move to the next one. > > When you've finished, go through the records on the list again, editing > the > information, updating the death and burial fields with the new > information, > and add the Commonwealth War Graves web site as a source. > > You may find you have a lot of exact death dates where you had an "Abt > 1942". > The historical notes on the cemeteries will also tell you something about > the > action your relatives were probably involved in. In most cases you will > also > find the age at death, which can give an approximate birth date if you > didn't > have one. > > Experienced researchers will probably know all this already, but if not, > it > can help to make your research more systematic and efficient, saving you > time > online (important if you have a dial-up connection), and tying up a whole > lot > of loose ends at once. > > Of course if most of your relatives lived in neutral countries, or served > in > the Axis forces, or in non-Commonwealth countries like the USA or Russia, > then > this won't be of much help! > > > > -- > Steve Hayes > E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) > Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/ >

    09/11/2005 02:06:14
    1. Re: "Killed in the war" -- research tips
    2. Paul Rose
    3. Hi All Is there any way of searching for relatives who were wounded during ww1? Regards, Paul (R) My Lake District walking site: http://www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

    11/12/2005 12:55:25