In <81e82u8a69cvhirlun84ftectrhiujib37@4ax.com> NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris) writes: >her child, and my brother could (as could his children), but they >wouldn't sell one to me, his brother. Under state law, they >can't even confirm his birth information for me. IMHO that's the >way it should be. Well, where I live, "birth cerificates" as such are not used, but you can get the the birth information about anyone born at least 30 years ago, with the exception of those adopted away at birth when the records are sealed (not all adoption cases are like that, however). Records about those born less than 30 years ago (or the adoption cases mentioned above) are generally only available to the individuals in question. -frisk -- Fridrik Skulason Frisk Software International phone: +354-5-617273 Author of F-PROT E-mail: frisk@complex.is fax: +354-5-617274