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Greetings Mr. Melson: Thank you for your message below, I do appreciate your warning. I'm not flogging anything but bringing an awareness about a book (factual in nature) that is a resource for genealogists who are making family connections to Rosses in North Carolina who were caught up in this famous 1920 trial. I do apologize to you and everyone here for posting this information. Best to you and yours. Robert Melson wrote: > [Posted and mailed] > > In article <1167962314.820979.189300@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, > "thegritsdotcom" <literaryservices@thegrits.com> writes: > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > > Contact: > > The GRITS COM Literary Services > > 281-973-6919 > > I'd suggest that if you _must_ advertise on-line, you pick an > appropriate forum, which this is clearly not - you might want to > try soc.genealogy.marketplace IF what you're flogging is somehow > related to genealogy. By failing to do proper research and ignoring > netiquette, you've branded your company and yourself as blatant > spammers, and your product as one of dubious value. > > Now, please go away and bother somebody else. > > > -- > Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas > ----- > "People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are > hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

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Absolutely agree. In late November I tried newspaperarchive's free trial, and, finding that it was not of use to me, cancelled the next day. Their online cancellation form was not working, so I used email instead. Nervous that this might not be enough, I also telephoned, and got a recorded message telling me to do exactly that (i.e. email my cancellation). The following day, the online cancellation form was working again, so I also used that. Belt, braces, velcro. They have taken my money anyway, and I'm now trying -- so far without any success -- to get my money back. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Stuart LeVine wrote: > This is the strongest possible warning against subscribing to > NewspaperARCHIVE.com > > 1. The selection of papers is very limited, and worse, the selection of > years is terrible. Some papers have only 1 or 2 years. > > You won't realize this as you have to really search around. All you will > experience is that your search will come back > > empty. > > 2. The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced from a web > site. Seven times I contacted them with a problem. > > Twice they responded asking me to explain the problem (which was explained > in my email). Four times they never responded. > > Once they responded that the problem was a feature (A search for the name > Tames give a result James, Prival gives Private and > > Polivy gives Policy). They never answer their phone. They take you number > and don't return your calls. > > 3. Here is an example of what most of the returns from a search look like: > > > > ltiiill, nlnst be written in a style and pertain, to PRIVUL'efuritters will > only > > d nuirtyr muat-ho nhuied with thn piuun and nni-um- PRIVUL.i Hiu-n-tary > > IIANNA- Two tilitinc'fiiriibhfil; VljIMrrii; PRIVUL- ms Jtujf ?15, Velvrt > > 4. Attempts to request a refund were ignored. Totally. > > 5. Cancellation requires you to fill in 2 forms online, explaining your > reasons. Then you have to print out another form, > > fill in THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION you filled in online and fax it to them. > They warn you that even though you filled > > out the online forms, if you fail to send in the fax they will keep charging > you. > > Save the aggravation and avoid this site. > > sblevine

Stuart LeVine wrote: > This is the strongest possible warning against subscribing to > NewspaperARCHIVE.com > > 1. The selection of papers is very limited, and worse, the selection of > years is terrible. Some papers have only 1 or 2 years. > > You won't realize this as you have to really search around. All you will > experience is that your search will come back > > empty. > > 2. The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced from a web > site. Seven times I contacted them with a problem. > > Twice they responded asking me to explain the problem (which was explained > in my email). Four times they never responded. > > Once they responded that the problem was a feature (A search for the name > Tames give a result James, Prival gives Private and > > Polivy gives Policy). They never answer their phone. They take you number > and don't return your calls. > > 3. Here is an example of what most of the returns from a search look like: > > > > ltiiill, nlnst be written in a style and pertain, to PRIVUL'efuritters will > only > > d nuirtyr muat-ho nhuied with thn piuun and nni-um- PRIVUL.i Hiu-n-tary > > IIANNA- Two tilitinc'fiiriibhfil; VljIMrrii; PRIVUL- ms Jtujf ?15, Velvrt > > 4. Attempts to request a refund were ignored. Totally. > > 5. Cancellation requires you to fill in 2 forms online, explaining your > reasons. Then you have to print out another form, > > fill in THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION you filled in online and fax it to them. > They warn you that even though you filled > > out the online forms, if you fail to send in the fax they will keep charging > you. > > Save the aggravation and avoid this site. > > sblevine

Stuart LeVine wrote: > This is the strongest possible warning against subscribing to > NewspaperARCHIVE.com > > 1. The selection of papers is very limited, and worse, the selection of > years is terrible. Some papers have only 1 or 2 years. > > You won't realize this as you have to really search around. All you will > experience is that your search will come back > > empty. > > 2. The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced from a web > site. Seven times I contacted them with a problem. > > Twice they responded asking me to explain the problem (which was explained > in my email). Four times they never responded. > > Once they responded that the problem was a feature (A search for the name > Tames give a result James, Prival gives Private and > > Polivy gives Policy). They never answer their phone. They take you number > and don't return your calls. > > 3. Here is an example of what most of the returns from a search look like: > > > > ltiiill, nlnst be written in a style and pertain, to PRIVUL'efuritters will > only > > d nuirtyr muat-ho nhuied with thn piuun and nni-um- PRIVUL.i Hiu-n-tary > > IIANNA- Two tilitinc'fiiriibhfil; VljIMrrii; PRIVUL- ms Jtujf ?15, Velvrt > > 4. Attempts to request a refund were ignored. Totally. > > 5. Cancellation requires you to fill in 2 forms online, explaining your > reasons. Then you have to print out another form, > > fill in THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION you filled in online and fax it to them. > They warn you that even though you filled > > out the online forms, if you fail to send in the fax they will keep charging > you. > > Save the aggravation and avoid this site. > > sblevine

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I couldn't agree more - I was given the same rip-off treatment and appalling service. Under no account be tempted to open a Free Trial Account - you will be charged even if, like me, you cancel within an hour. Dawn Stuart LeVine wrote: > This is the strongest possible warning against subscribing to > NewspaperARCHIVE.com > > 1. The selection of papers is very limited, and worse, the selection of > years is terrible. Some papers have only 1 or 2 years. > > You won't realize this as you have to really search around. All you will > experience is that your search will come back > > empty. > > 2. The customer service is the worst I have ever experienced from a web > site. Seven times I contacted them with a problem. > > Twice they responded asking me to explain the problem (which was explained > in my email). Four times they never responded. > > Once they responded that the problem was a feature (A search for the name > Tames give a result James, Prival gives Private and > > Polivy gives Policy). They never answer their phone. They take you number > and don't return your calls. > > 3. Here is an example of what most of the returns from a search look like: > > > > ltiiill, nlnst be written in a style and pertain, to PRIVUL'efuritters will > only > > d nuirtyr muat-ho nhuied with thn piuun and nni-um- PRIVUL.i Hiu-n-tary > > IIANNA- Two tilitinc'fiiriibhfil; VljIMrrii; PRIVUL- ms Jtujf ?15, Velvrt > > 4. Attempts to request a refund were ignored. Totally. > > 5. Cancellation requires you to fill in 2 forms online, explaining your > reasons. Then you have to print out another form, > > fill in THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION you filled in online and fax it to them. > They warn you that even though you filled > > out the online forms, if you fail to send in the fax they will keep charging > you. > > Save the aggravation and avoid this site. > > sblevine

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