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    1. Re: Are British records safe?
    2. Graeme Wall
    3. In message <e51sm3hh5r8cfvpmf9qncvsum8bfr86gsc@4ax.com> Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote: > TV news is reporting that for the third time in as many months important > data about British citizens have gone missing from government departments. > > It's all getting a bit much -- haven't British civil servants ever heard of > backups? Back-ups isn't the problem, the problem is that confidential data is being mishandled on an epic scale by a government that wants to bring in the most draconian ID card legislation on the planet. What is going astray is copies of the data being transferred between departments or other agencies. The government still has the data but now, potentially, does every crook in the world. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

    12/23/2007 02:10:08
    1. Re: Are British records safe?
    2. Frank Erskine
    3. On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:50:55 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote: >TV news is reporting that for the third time in as many months important data >about British citizens have gone missing from government departments. > >It's all getting a bit much -- haven't British civil servants ever heard of >backups? It's not just the matter of losing the data - it's more a matter of data falling into the wrong hands. -- Frank Erskine

    12/23/2007 01:19:15
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    12/22/2007 09:45:38
    1. Want To See My Tree?
    2. ScottyFLL
    3. Since Boob won't stop posting links to my family tree, I've decided to post my actual history for you to see. Over 950 names as of 27 Nov 2001. 350 arrest warrants as of Nov 2007 Earliest birth in my direct line: Cheeta Earliest birth on tree: same as above Working on connection to HRH the Prince Willem Alexander of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange, through the Von Ditten line and SpongeBob Square-pants on my mothers side. Here's a photo of my great uncle Peder Moen He had a thing for little boys so they called him Ole PederFile. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/l/Scott-A-Salberg/PHOTO/0012photo.html Here's a picture of me and my brother Chris. from the 60's. You'll notice my homosexuality was raging even then. I am humping his ass. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/l/Scott-A-Salberg/PHOTO/0014photo.html What family history would be complete without a picture of my mother Sharon Scharf. This photo was taken by her pimp before she left for work. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/l/Scott-A-Salberg/PHOTO/0006photo.html

    12/13/2007 02:29:34
    1. Finding data - change in trends?
    2. D. Stussy
    3. Although many of us may use the genealogy-specific web sites and their data, I have found lately (past 2 months or so) that my personal genealogy web site is receiving alot more hits referred from general search engines such as google and yahoo (among others). Is it a trend that people are opting for the general search engines - or are there simply alot more people interested in researching their ancestry, so the increased traffic I'm seeing (from the referring page field) coming from the search engines is simply an overall increase in the volume of people researching? Simply curious.

    12/12/2007 08:30:40
    1. Re: WIKIPEDIA is now politically correct to use as a reference resource
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:15:55 -0800 (PST), "vctinney@sbcglobal.net" <vctinney@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >WIKIPEDIA is now politically correct to use as a reference resource >http://whygive.wikimedia.org/2007/12/07/can-you-trust-wikipedia/ > >8th December 2007, ResearchBuzz notes: >"OCLC Hooks Up With Wikipedia" >. . . " search over a billion items in >over 10,000 libraries around the world." >http://www.academic-genealogy.com/melvyluniversityofcaliforniagenealogyfamilyhistory.htm#research >" Now the xISBN service has been hooked up >with Wikipedia! That means you can enter a URL >and have xISBN generate a list of related URLs, >and then check those URLs against the ISBNs >on Wikipedia." >http://www.researchbuzz.org/wp/2007/12/08/oclc-hooks-up-with-wikipedia/ In what way is it politically correct? Which political bosses do you think it will please? And don't multi-post - it marks you as a spammer. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

    12/09/2007 11:18:50
    1. Re: How to write an obituary
    2. wklager
    3. On Dec 4, 11:17 am, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Don't make obit a resume [forwarded from alt.obituaries] > > Barbara Quirk > The Capital Times (Madison, WI) > > December 4, 2007 > > > "It is helpful for me to find all of the names, dates and places and > the names of all of the children and grandchildren. In the pursuit of > genealogy, it is helpful to read about their military history, their > social history, what clubs they belonged to, such as the VFW or the > Elks." Olle believes that when the obituary describes the person's > interests, such as fishing or travel, it gives you a more complete > picture of the person. > Thanks for posting the article. My Dutch ancestors settled in and near Holland, Michigan in the 1840's. There are a lot of descendants that still live in the area. I am not one of them. So, every few months I do a search of the archives at the Holland Sentinel newspaper website. (It goes back to July 1997 and doesn't charge anything to let you see the entire article. I have been able to find a number of obituaries as well as birth announcements and engagement announcements this way. The Dykstra Funeral Homes in the area also have a website and for some people include a life story. I enjoy finding and reading these. Here is an example: http://www.lifestorynet.com/memories/4079/ Wendy Klager

    12/05/2007 06:00:46
    1. How to write an obituary
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. Don't make obit a resume [forwarded from alt.obituaries] Barbara Quirk The Capital Times (Madison, WI) December 4, 2007 It seems John Doe passed away. Not to speak ill of the dead, but John had been a miserly type of guy; his wife Jane had called him cheap. Although the Does had been married for a long time, it was not a happy marriage, and no love was lost when John died. Arrangements for burial were being made, and the funeral director inquired about the obituary. "Just write 'John Doe was born May 1, 1940, and died June 1, 1999.'" The funeral director explained that there was a 50-word minimum for the newspaper and the costs would be the same either way. Without hesitation, the new widow responded, "Add 'Cadillac for sale.'" The subject of obituaries came up recently. We agreed that many of the obituaries today read like a resume rather than tell who that person really was. One of the women in the group described the obituary of a relative, an apparently very accomplished and well-known man. "The paper ran a big story on him with headlines about an inch high, but his actual obituary was quite short." She went on to explain that this man who loved photography had traveled to many countries, had written books and was an authority on art and antiques. Still, his family was able to say all this in a few short words. "He traveled the world photographing his adventures," and "His passion for local history was fulfilled with the publication of two local history books." We agreed that listing every country traveled and every interest would have made for a several-column eulogy. Of course, not every family member can write that tightly, but it is good to have some standards to aim for. I spoke with Jim Olle about obituaries. Olle, a Madison resident, is rather an authority on the subject as he has collected about 1,200 of them in his pursuit of family history. I asked him what he likes to find in an obituary. "It is helpful for me to find all of the names, dates and places and the names of all of the children and grandchildren. In the pursuit of genealogy, it is helpful to read about their military history, their social history, what clubs they belonged to, such as the VFW or the Elks." Olle believes that when the obituary describes the person's interests, such as fishing or travel, it gives you a more complete picture of the person. Olle, who focuses on his family as German immigrants, follows the line for three or four generations. "It is fascinating to see how the first generations lived close to each other and how subsequent generations start to fan out across the country. Also it's interesting to me to follow how occupation patterns seem to follow certain families." I asked about the style of so many lengthy obituaries in Dane County, and Olle, a retired engineer, just laughed. "This is a university town," he explained. "These guys are so used to writing for grants and have a need to throw in all of their credentials." Scott Kundinger, a manager at Cress Funeral and Cremation Service, sees more families bringing in the obituary information. Sometimes more than one family is involved. Traditionally, the information was straightforward, but lately it is more personal. Cress offers guidelines for loved ones to fill in the blanks with all of the vital statistics and the major information such as colleges or schools, occupation, war service, church and club memberships. Cress' outline also includes survivors and details of the funeral service itself. Kundinger suggests that if the date and time of the services are listed in the obituary, that can present an opportunity for someone to break in, knowing the house is likely to be empty. It is wise to have someone stay at the home during those times. Staff from the funeral home will assist the family in composing the obituary and will edit it as necessary. Likewise, newspapers have their own style of presenting the information. Something to consider is where the obituary should appear. If someone lived and worked in one community and retired to another, the notice could appear in several papers. Kundinger said obituaries are not required, and costs are charged by the line. And no, there is no minimum length. Barbara Quirk is a geriatric nurse practitioner. http://www.madison.com/tct/entertainment/260196 -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

    12/04/2007 12:17:09
    1. nFS: New Family Search and Evidence Hierarchy in Combining Names
    2. nFS: New Family Search and Evidence Hierarchy in Combining Names Why not make the nFS system do an evidence hierarchy? For each data entry, there is the "best" source record, then the next best and so on. If the system operated with a sequential presentation of formats listing the most primary record available for any given event; also, added thereto a computer system search to attach that given evidence to any indexed reproduced online original record sources, (as well as the ability to recheck these databases over time), the whole Temple Ordinance Work record system would consistently become fully acceptable, as well as train submitters in correct record keeping. Temple Ordinance Work would remain in effect, from oral tradition to original document, with the printout giving information from the most primary record. Automatically, the record system could become self correcting, whenever any name or identity was matched within the series of various references, by producing in the end, the name, dates and places noted from the most original "best" primary sources; attaching thereto the dates and the duplicates of Temple Ordinance Work done over time. This would stop, once and for all, excessive errors and weed out all entries submitted from fictitious data records, made up by individuals trying to corrupt the database, or by unintentional neglect or ignorance. I also agree that it takes human reasoning. Modify the process developed for Name Extraction Programs. . . . "To ensure accuracy, two transcriptions of each entry are made and compared to find and resolve discrepancies." http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/family_history/name_eom.htm To ensure accuracy, "highlighted" information should be provided in summary format to compare and contrast submitted reference evidence discrepancies, (similar to a Norton Internet Security full system scan): I. list of total field items scanned; II. error "risks" that were detected; III. "attention required" tab: (a) requiring attention, and (b) resolved. Some problems are easily cleared up by novice submitters, while others may jeopardize the record file, with attached personal temple ordinance work. (c) Evidence Hierarchy is mandatory because: "Whenever the evidence hierarchy is altered, submissions are automatically reviewed by professional staff personnel at Church headquarters to validate the assumptions made are in accordance with professional genealogical standards, before inclusion within the Master Database." The process suggested is equivalent to an LDS Temple Ordinance Work "TITLE SEARCH". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_search Life Browser to include: ALL OF THE ABOVE, and: (1) Record of all those "who consecrate properties, and receive inheritances legally from the bishop". (2) Link reference to members, "their manner of life, their faith, and works" (Individual and Family Biographies). (3) Record of the apostates who apostatize after receiving their inheritances. Church Court link to Priesthood actions, "whose names are not found written in the book of the law, or that are found to have apostatized, or to have been cut off from the church, as well as the lesser priesthood, or the members" . . . (4) Records received from beyond the veil. This will require, in my own opinion, the restoration of the Office of Church Patriarch, within the family of Hyrum Smith, to oversee and expand the full family history record program, from Adam on down to the last person to live upon this earth, in a mortal state. The office of Stake Patriarch would provide the worldwide church channels from which The House of Israel could be brought down to the present generation, within the local jurisdiction of the Stake Presidencies of the Church, by revelation, to worthy Temple recommend holders. http://www.josephsmithsr.org/documents/newspaper/sltrib_20061230.pdf Respectfully yours, Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory

    12/04/2007 12:36:03
    1. OGILVIE family of Eastern Cape
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. Is anyone researching the OGILVIE family of Grahamstown? If so, do you know of any Canadian or US connections? I've posted something about it on my blog: http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com/2007/11/ogilvie-family-and-other-news.html -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

    11/26/2007 08:23:53
    1. Free Family Tree
    2. There are a lot of resources on the Internet that offer free family tree charts and free family tree software. Read on to find out what these freebies can do for you. Benefits of downloading free family tree charts and software There are a lot of free family tree chart designs available for downloading. These graphical representations will help you organize your ancestors and relatives. There are a lot of designs available for every personality and taste. What's great about these free family tree charts is that they can help you add names and dates electronically, usually using your browser window. These charts make it very simple to keep tabs on your progress, because with one click, you can see right away what boxes still need to be filled out. Free family tree charts and software typically let you complete everything on the web, so it's very easy to email your relatives and put up a website, once you have finished. Free family tree charts are also usually printable. What do I have to do to get free online family tree charts and software?... http://groups.google.com/group/familytreesyvs

    11/25/2007 09:27:01
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    11/24/2007 05:38:01
    1. Free Access To Origins Network!
    2. Free Genealogy Vouchers! The Origins Network (www.originsnetwork.com), specialists in British and Irish genealogy, is offering free 24 hour access vouchers for both British and Irish Origins to the first 200 people who sign up!* Visit: http://www.originsnetwork.com/thanksgivingoffer.aspx for more information and details of how to register. Online Collections include: · Complete 1841, 1861 England and Wales Censuses with images · Largest online index of pre-1837 marriages · Wills · Apprentice records · Court records · Property records · Irish Census records · Boyd's London Inhabitants · Passenger lists · Griffith's Valuation · British & Irish galleries Origins Network records date back to the 13th Century and continue into the 20th Century and are mostly not available anywhere else online. *Please note that this offer is only available to new subscribers For further information, please email help@origins.net

    11/22/2007 08:01:19
    1. MI5 Persecution: Faxes Sent to Media1 (5252)
    2. Faxes Sent to British Media logs During the 1998-2000 period my records indicate that I sent at least 6,137 faxes to the British media, of which 5,775 went via TPC's email-to-fax service and 362 were sent via fax-modem direct from my computer. The actual figure is obviously higher since, for most of this period, whenever a recipient asked to be deleted from my mailing list, I totally wiped all entries including that from the logfile. In the records "Y" indicates successful transmission from fax-modem, "N" indicates failed transmission from fax-modem. "E" indicates an error occurred while transmitting via fax-modem and a fax may have been only partly transmitted. "y" and "n" indicate success or failure via TPC. In April 2000 I changed the method of operation by recording "R" when a recipient requested removal, rather than wiping their details from my mailing list and records; and keeping "B" records for when TPC actioned a ban on a recipient's fax-number, but the recipient did not write to ask me to cease faxing. The purpose of these changes was to keep more accurate and complete records, but the intention was thwarted by the police complaint. Also in April 2000, I added some further fax numbers to my media mailing list and records, which is why some of the faxnumbers below have only a single entry, and some indeed have none. 441132420652 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyy 441132439387 yyyyyYyyynyyyyyyyy 441132445107 yyyyyYyyyyyynyyyyyy 441132455139 n 441132460037 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyy 441132461105 yyyyyYyyynyyynnnnnn 441132836586 yyyyyYynyyyyyyyyyyy 441142664375 nnyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyy 441142769089 yyyyyyYyyyynnnyyyyyy 441142853159 yyyyyYyyynyynyyyyy 441159012850 y 441159363497 n 441159420433 ynnnnYyynnyyyyyyyyy 441159455243 n 441159527001 ynyyyYynnyyynnyynny 441159550552 yyyyyYyyyyyyynnnnn 441159822568 n 441162311123 y 441162511463 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyy 441162512151 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyy 441162512979 n 441162561303 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyynB 441162640948 yyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyn 441162667776 yyyyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyy 441179226744 n 441179238323 yyyyyNynyyyyyyyyyy 441179279568 n 441179298612 yyyynYyyyyyynnnnnn 441179317463 y 441179722400 yyyyyyyYyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 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    11/18/2007 08:30:43
    1. MI5 Persecution: Come back, Norma! (33527)
    2. Private Eye, 23 Oct 1992 Certainty level: 25% I'm not really sure whether this cover was intended to get at me, or whether it was re-interpreted after publication to be about me. This issue of Private Eye came out in October 1992, by which time I had been under severe continuous pressure at work and from the general population in Oxford for many months. It had John Major saying to his wife, "Come back, Norma!" under the title "Major's support lowest ever". There's a story behind this. In late October I was in the local pub (the Rose and Crown, nice traditional name eh) with two people from work, Simon and Phil. Phil had with him a copy of the current Private Eye. These are both "nice people" and on my side, I hasten to add. Simon pointed out the message on the magazine's cover to Phil, and asked "what do you think about that". Phil answered, "Well usually they [Private Eye] get it right". This exchange happened in front of me. Although I was ill at the time (this was before I'd started taking medicines) I hadn't read anything into the Eye cover until these guys pointed it out to me. Sometime later, again in the same road, a student shouted to one of his friends, "so when are you COMING BACK?", again in front of me. What I realised Phil thought it meant was a double-entendre, the "coming" referring to the act of ejaculation, the "back" referring to the human back-side. So in a play on words you get a person who is referred to as a back-side ejaculating. Charming. Of course, Phil could have been wrong. Perhaps there was no such meaning intended by Private Eye. Perhaps he saw meaning which wasn't there. Perhaps the moon is made from green cheese. Who knows? 33527 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

    11/18/2007 02:47:46
    1. MI5 Persecution: Eclipse pub 20/12/02 (27002)
    2. Eclipse pub in Balham (20/Dec/2002) Certainty level: 70% On Friday 20/December/2002 I went to Balham to do some shopping and eating. When I went into the Eclipse pub for a meal there were two girls already at the bar being server, I ordered and sat down near the window. They sat down at the opposite window seat, out of sight. After a few minutes they started screaming repetitively "section, section". They were reading something and were trying to pretend that they were just repeating from what they were reading, but in reality it was quite obvious they were talking about me, specifically to confinement under mental health. As you can guess the behaviour of these unwise young things shows them to be from the underprivileged category which due to the natural laws of society is seldom seen in the better classes of restaurant - the McDonald's next door is their more usual habitat. My guess is that these two females were deliberately placed in the Eclipse with orders to be offensive to me personally. The alternative would be that no-one had ordered them and they were just being rude on their own account, but that is improbable, for two reasons; first, I was out of sight of them and one does not usually "pick on" a person one cannot see; secondly, there had that afternoon in Balham been other, less distinct incidents immediately preceding this, and it is inferable that MI5 were making quite a serious effort to create a physical incident, as they have done on numerous occasions previously. I give my interpretation a two in three chance of validity. 27002 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

    11/17/2007 07:20:17
    1. MI5 Persecution: he's an idiot you know 3/11/00 (18302)
    2. Balham High Road (3/Nov/2000) Certainty level: 60% On 3 November 2000, I had just got off the bus in Balham High Road, when I heard a group of schoolgirls shouting and laughing. One of them yelled; "He's an idiot you know." You can hear this on the above clip; it is followed by laughter. I am not quite sure this is about me, which is why I have only given it a two in three probability. I have been attacked many times with the word "idiot", which seems to be a favourite with intellectual lightweights who want to bring down bigger game. (Back in 1992 I was so worried by the attacks on my intelligence that I took the test and joined Mensa...... does that make me a *clever* idiot? Never mind.) 18302 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

    11/17/2007 08:34:24
    1. THANKSGIVING: Living Family and Fun Portal with Genealogy and Family History Ties
    2. THANKSGIVING: Living Family and Fun Portal with Genealogy and Family History Ties http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm Strengthen family ties with fun times, shopping, finances, home life, working, education, recreation and social interactions. The genealogy and history of products and services used in the various aspects of daily family living are included throughout this site. Eating and Food includes The FOOD Museum and Food History-Science Tracer Bullet. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Eating Auto Resources & Vehicles includes Automotive History and Driver's License. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Auto Consumer concerns includes Underwriters Laboratories Inc., trusted source across the globe for product compliance. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Consumer Marriage & Family Ties includes retirement and extended family (links that bind), from the beginning (true love). http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Marriage Pets and Animals includes AnimalSearch, the Macaulay Library Catalog and World Animal Net; animal related search sites and networks for families. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Pets And, in the United States, for Black Friday (shopping) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_%28shopping%29 the day after Thanksgiving, use: (1) Apparel & Department Stores (which includes lists of Department stores from around the World) http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Apparel (2) Shopping & Savings, which includes world wide lists and histories of the art of Shopping, the Shopping Mall, a List of leading Shopping streets and districts by City, as well as a List of Superstores. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/livingfamilyfun.htm#Shopping In the British Isles, around two thousand years ago, "to buy a clothing outfit at auction, an average Roman soldier would have paid 8 percent of his yearly income (25 denarii). He would have had to fork out another 10 percent for a cloak to protect him from Britain's hostile climate." http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s253805.htm SEE ALSO: History Specialties: History of. . . . http://www.academic-genealogy.com/historysocialstudies.htm#Specialties Respectfully yours, Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory http://www.academic-genealogy.com/

    11/17/2007 02:40:23
    1. MI5 Persecution: Ravenscourt Park 20/3/99 (5252)
    2. Ravenscourt Park 20/3/99 Certainty level: 70% On Saturday I went to Hammersmith, specifically Ravenscourt Park. There had recently been a resurgence of persecution activity, following the Capital spams. I went to the cafe in the park and had a cup of coffee outside, with my mother. As I went inside the cafe to return the cups, a woman shouted a sexual obscenity (not present on this audio file - don't ask), and she said loudly "something's wrong with him". You can just about hear it in the audio file; listen very carefully, several times; it is distinguishable. Much less subtle is the male voice shouting "take care he's a nutter" immediately after the woman's voice. As on the other recordings there's a lot of noise, but what the people say can be clearly heard. Given that I take medication and look and behave quite sanely, and that there had been increased abuse over the last couple of weeks, it seems pretty unlikely that this incident was just spontaneous.... of course, you couldn't prove otherwise, but then that's the way MI5 mean their abuse to look. 5252 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

    11/16/2007 10:22:36
    1. MI5 Persecution: BHS Croydon 18/12/98 (3077)
    2. Evil old bat in BHS 18/12/98 Certainty level: 40% Not quite sure how sure I am about this one. I went down to Croydon (Surrey) with my mother to buy her a beret. After doing the shopping, we went to the BHS store restaurant to lunch on fish and chips. You can guess the rest. Auditory hallucinations my shrink calls them, faithfully recorded on Sony minidisc. Some old cow going on about "see that chap, the one over there, something's wrong with him". It is quite tiring being attacked by random idiots in the street, or as in this case, by some random, evil old bat in a restaurant. Fortunately it is only a sporadic occurrence. My enemies seem of late reluctant to waste resources in my direction. Should I take this as an insult? Am I not worth the millions of taxpayers money which has been wasted on me? Are the obsessives of MI5 themselves the "nutters" and "really mad" which they accuse me of being? Interestingly this suggestion as to the psychological profiles of Security Service personnel has been made by others... it does lead one to wonder, doesn't it? 3077 -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

    11/16/2007 09:02:27