Charlene Charette wrote: > > Sorry for the cross-post. I've never been sure exactly what is the > difference in these two groups and to which one I should post. > > In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments > for: > > state, county, city > city, county, state > > Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? > Yeah, actually. (g) I agree with Dave and Carole about order (small to large). I suspect the majority of pre-WIN9x genealogists DO prefer small to large, because (1) most of those people did genealogy before computers, and small-to-large was how it was done in pencil and paper; (2)in pre-WIN9x environments, one did not have an unlimited amt of space for a locale and the program simply chopped off excess letters. This left the user with a Country, a province, and maybe part of a town-name. That's MUCH more difficult to track down than town-name, province, part of a countryname. (use up country-name with "Austrio-Hungarian Empire" and see what's left for the Parish name) And the reason it matters from your database to mine or Dave's or Carole's is -- if your placenames go large-to-small and ours go small-to-large, when we exchange data, both ends will have to do clean-up, and cleanup of possibly truncated information. (I've seen locales entered as "St. Joseph's Lying-In Hospital, corner of 7th and Syracuse, now known as Veteran's Memorial Hospital, Providence, Westmoreland twp, Wissahocking co., Mississippi, United States." Which is WAAAY more information than is needed to answer "where was he born?")(g) Yeah: I made up the address, but not the concept. I agree that when citing most documents in sources, one DOES go from large to small (Fifteenth Census of the US, Virginia, Henrico county, Richmond City, Fifth Ward) but that used to all go into text format in a "notes" or "facts" section which HAD enough space for it all. Cheryl

In soc.genealogy.misc Carole Allen <carolea7@attbi.com> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:18:23 GMT, Charlene Charette > <charlene@flash.net> wrote: >>In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments >>for: >>state, county, city >>city, county, state >>Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? >>Thanks, >>--Charlene >> > I always cite city, county, state > (sometimes it's township, county, state) Same here - most specific to most general. So: Mari Haagensdatter (Name: very specific) Born: (Farm name) Parish: (Ringsaker) County: (Hedmark) Country (Norway) If you look at your mailing address, it's organized the same way. Same with your email address - who you are, at (machine), (company), (org type). I can't see a good reason to do it the other way, and this seems to be the convention, so my vote would be to agree with you. Dave Hinz

Andy <axelrose999@home.com> pressed random keys until the following was produced: > I am wanting to share a large amount of information about my > family history. But I want it to go to a place which is free > for people to search but is also well known enough to make a > difference. Good thinking. Another thing to consider is longevity of that source. > Can one of you suggest a web site which would be the best to > submit my information to? I'd suggest submitting it to the LDS, and here's why: 1. Your name will be forever attached as the submitter, so you get "credit" (if you care about that), and more importantly, so that someone doing work on that line years or decades from now will have your contact information. 2. They're not some fly-by-night dotcom, that may or may not get bought out a few dozen times in the next decade or two. Who knows where you data will end up (if anywhere) in that situation? What you give some dotcom under one set of terms of agreement, may change when they're bought or sold. 3. Anyone who gets into genealogy, sooner or later, learns about the LDS and that they have a huge genealogy library. So, they'll be looking there for information. 4. They've been around alot longer than any dotcom, and have a real commitment to keeping the data available and safe; it's a tenant of their faith, and a theological motivation is alot stronger than a commercial one. Hope this helps - and if you have any other questions on this regard, I'm sure that there are quite a few folks here who would be happy to share their opinions ;) Dave Hinz

Dennis P. Harris <NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net> pressed random keys until the following was produced: > On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:00:57 GMT in soc.genealogy.misc, Charles > <X@triad.rr.com> wrote: >> How do you pay for your ISP ? > my isp is also my cable company and my long distance company. i > pay it when i pay my cable (cable modem) & long distance > (internet service) bill, with a check. in alaska, all but the > smallest linux nerd ISPs are phone companies. Wow, so not only do you have a problem reading terms that you agree to, but you consider non-phone company ISP's to be 'small linux nerd' groups? What a *charming* individual you are. Not. Bye now (<***PLONK***>) Dave Hinz

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 06:18:23 GMT, Charlene Charette <charlene@flash.net> wrote: >In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments >for: >state, county, city >city, county, state >Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? >Thanks, >--Charlene > I always cite city, county, state (sometimes it's township, county, state) just my preference >

Sorry for the cross-post. I've never been sure exactly what is the difference in these two groups and to which one I should post. In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments for: state, county, city city, county, state Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? Thanks, --Charlene -- How can "crash course" and "collision course" have two different meanings? -- George Carlin ===== Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - mailto:findbook@flash.net

On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:00:57 GMT in soc.genealogy.misc, Charles <X@triad.rr.com> wrote: > How do you pay for your ISP ? my isp is also my cable company and my long distance company. i pay it when i pay my cable (cable modem) & long distance (internet service) bill, with a check. in alaska, all but the smallest linux nerd ISPs are phone companies.

You might also want to check out GenServ.com It's the next best thing to free. Only $12.00 per year and less for seniors and students. I just send them a check to renew each year. No credit cards involved. The Cranky Genee On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:38:44 GMT, axelrose999@home.com (Andy) wrote: >I am wanting to share a large amount of information about my >family history. But I want it to go to a place which is free >for people to search but is also well known enough to make a >difference. > >Can one of you suggest a web site which would be the best to >submit my information to? > >Many thanks, > >

Andy <axelrose999@home.com> wrote in message news:3c3f8dd8.53556194@news... > I am wanting to share a large amount of information about my > family history. But I want it to go to a place which is free > for people to search but is also well known enough to make a > difference. > > Can one of you suggest a web site which would be the best to > submit my information to? > > Many thanks, I've been happy with WorldConnect at Rootsweb..... you can upload a GEDCOM & have a good amount of control of what data appears on the site, in terms of Notes, Sources & how to handle people who are/might still be living. The search tools are fairly powerful as well. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com My STINCHFIELD/STANCHFIELD site: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kzytv4-stnch

I am wanting to share a large amount of information about my family history. But I want it to go to a place which is free for people to search but is also well known enough to make a difference. Can one of you suggest a web site which would be the best to submit my information to? Many thanks,

Guess the do it differently elsewhere, however, in Canada they do follow up on all complaints to ensure it isn't someone with a grudge. Legal liability would prevent them from reporting a company as unsatisfactory if it truly is not the case. Celia Mitschelen wrote: > I don't believe this is the case. They just keep a record of the number and > type of complaints they receive. Any one with a grudge could stack their > figures if they wished to spend the time. > > Celia > > "Jon E. Cain" <joncain@telus.net> wrote in message > news:3C3A8821.9D930686@telus.net... > > Not too sure, however, the BBB agencies do not downgrade a companies > standing without > > researching the company and all complaints, so take it as it is. > > > > Better Business Bureau??? If you had you would have found that > > > > Ancestry.com have a unsatisfactory rating with them, therefore, in my > > > > books, they are a slime ball organization and would NEVER trust them > with > > > > my charge card information. > > > > > > Are the complaints registered with the BBB from other people who can't > > > read English, and who sign up for things without understanding what > > > they're agreeing to? > >

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:33:43 -0500, "Buffys97" <buffys97@one.net> wrote: >Were there any immigrant ship arrivals at Biloxi? If so, where can I >find records of these? > >Failed on LDS site and ISTG. Thanks, Buffy In 1840s? More likely New Orleans. Biloxi, of course, was the port of entry for the French settlement of Louisiana circa 1720s. Henry F. Brownlee South Louisiana

About a year ago my husband became a US citizen. Several people had their names changed at the same time; first, last or both! It was folded into the process. This was in a Federal Superior Court. I had my name legally changed last year. I had to get a County Court judge to sign the order. I never spoke to him. He read the document (during a recess in a trial), looked at me and signed. It is possible that when your grandmother became a citizen she also legally changed her name. If so, there should be a record of it in the Court Clerk's Office. If you can't find one, check the local newspapers around the time period she became a citizen. After the judge signed my paperwork, I had to place a notice in a paper assigned by the court for three weeks before it could be finalized. Leslie Pat wrote: > I don't know if it is any help but my maternal grandparents name was spelled > STOROZUK on all documents until my grandmother became a citizen in the early > 1930's. All of a sudden the name was changed to STROZAK! I have no idea if > it was an INS typo or my grandmother's wish but it was permanently changed > on all documents after that date. > > Pat > > From: "P Johnson" <jones-pj@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Legal Name Change Question > Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:10 AM > > I am looking for information regarding the process of a legal name change > for a family. How is this done? Through what type of court? Would it affect > previous records? Any suggestions on how to research/get started on a family > name that has been changed would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanx for any help!

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 05:37:40 -0500, Dennis P. Harris wrote: > On 02 Jan 2002 17:04:45 GMT in soc.genealogy.misc, davehinz@spamcop.net > wrote: > >> It's a subscription service, and as such, auto-renews just like every >> other subscription service that I use. > > I don't know of ANY magazine that renews automatically, and I believe > that it's against the law. > > But I won't deal with Ancestry.com since they're such sleazeballs. I > will never, never, never, give my credit card number to any company that > uses this kind of auto renewal. Never. How do you pay for your ISP ?

I don't believe this is the case. They just keep a record of the number and type of complaints they receive. Any one with a grudge could stack their figures if they wished to spend the time. Celia "Jon E. Cain" <joncain@telus.net> wrote in message news:3C3A8821.9D930686@telus.net... > Not too sure, however, the BBB agencies do not downgrade a companies standing without > researching the company and all complaints, so take it as it is. > > > Better Business Bureau??? If you had you would have found that > > > Ancestry.com have a unsatisfactory rating with them, therefore, in my > > > books, they are a slime ball organization and would NEVER trust them with > > > my charge card information. > > > > Are the complaints registered with the BBB from other people who can't > > read English, and who sign up for things without understanding what > > they're agreeing to? >

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I don't know if it is any help but my maternal grandparents name was spelled STOROZUK on all documents until my grandmother became a citizen in the early 1930's. All of a sudden the name was changed to STROZAK! I have no idea if it was an INS typo or my grandmother's wish but it was permanently changed on all documents after that date. Pat From: "P Johnson" <jones-pj@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Legal Name Change Question Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:10 AM I am looking for information regarding the process of a legal name change for a family. How is this done? Through what type of court? Would it affect previous records? Any suggestions on how to research/get started on a family name that has been changed would be greatly appreciated. Thanx for any help!

Buffys97 wrote: > > Were there any immigrant ship arrivals at Biloxi? If so, where can I > find records of these? > > Failed on LDS site and ISTG. Thanks, Buffy I don't think Biloxi was a port-of-entry. Try Mobile or New Orleans. And try www.nara.gov, and NAIL site there to double-check about Biloxi. Cheryl

Were there any immigrant ship arrivals at Biloxi? If so, where can I find records of these? Failed on LDS site and ISTG. Thanks, Buffy

Not too sure, however, the BBB agencies do not downgrade a companies standing without researching the company and all complaints, so take it as it is. davehinz@spamcop.net wrote: > Jon E. Cain <joncain@telus.net> pressed random keys until the following was produced: > > Thought I would make a little note here. Have any of you contacted the > > Better Business Bureau??? If you had you would have found that > > Ancestry.com have a unsatisfactory rating with them, therefore, in my > > books, they are a slime ball organization and would NEVER trust them with > > my charge card information. > > Are the complaints registered with the BBB from other people who can't > read English, and who sign up for things without understanding what > they're agreeing to?