D. Stussy wrote: > It is NOT a "given" for any PUBLIC database sharing, nor should it be a >"given" except for the rare occasion that a database has NO PERSON with >NO EVENT outside the U.S. However, that still doesn't make its omission >correct. Most of us aren't creating a PUBLIC database, we're creating private databases which we may (or may not) elect to share publically. This makes a subtle difference in specs. Cheryl

> There are probably 20 more variations but I'd be willing to > bet there is ONE name that probably contains the majority of > people you might be looking for. If written phonetically in French it might come out "Lasleau(x)". Not likely, but possible. --Charlene -- How can "crash course" and "collision course" have two different meanings? -- George Carlin ===== Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - mailto:findbook@flash.net

His name was probably Hiltiningenian but they changed it when he got to Ellis Island.<vbg> (sorry.... couldn't resist) -- Barb Orange County, Indiana, Marriage Record Index: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~woodhousegenealogy/ "Henry F. Brownlee" <hfb1931@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3c3e82bd.320547525@news.msy.bellsouth.net... > On 11 Jan 2002 04:25:50 GMT, Gerry Wright <gdwright@atdial.net> wrote: > > > >From "The Oxford Universal Dictionary", 3rd edition, revised. pg. 903. > > > >Hilding. Obs. or arch. 1582. [?] 1. A worthless or vicious beast, esp. a > >hores - 1719. 2. A good-for-nothing (man of woman) 1592. > > > >Better you shouldn't have asked. > > > >Gerry Wright > >ZoneZebra Productions > >San Francisco > > Drat! Ya beat me to it! But my Webster's New World College Dictionary also > says: a low, contemptible person. < ME heldinge, bending aside < OE heildan, > to incline, bow [Archaic] > So I gues Mr. Hilding was/coulda been a low bowing, scraping, contemptible > rapscallion. But then again, he was probably a nice guy! <g> > > Henry F. Brownlee > South Louisiana > > >

To me New Orleans sure means USA But Orleans would mean France Louisana sure USA But the other day I saw I think it was Reading Middlesex Mass Now first two words had me thinking UK Then there are places like Birmingham and London and Paris but which country Ron Lankshear.... Sydney Aust from UK or GB lets be plain England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry F. Brownlee" <hfb1931@bellsouth.net> To: <GENMSC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: citing locations > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:20:21 GMT, "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> > wrote: > > > >I would find BOTH of those wrong, as it does not indicate the COUNTRY. > >Locations in the USA MUST SAY SO to be correct. > > > > Perhaps for those who do not live in the USA. But for those of us who do, it > is a given. And I doubt even those in Great Britain (oops - the UK) will > think that New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana is other than in the USA. > But then, I have been wrong once before. > > Henry F. Brownlee > South Louisiana > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

That I've heard of... Lazlo Laslo Laslow Lazlow There are probably 20 more variations but I'd be willing to bet there is ONE name that probably contains the majority of people you might be looking for. Try a web search? Hope you get what you need, good luck... On The Date Of Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:29:42 -0500, Singhals <singhals@erols.com> Wrote The Followng: ->(G) -> ->Actually, the question is more, How many ways can you spell ->Lazlo? -> ->Thanks. -> ->Cheryl

Can anyone tell me where I can obtain the ship arrivals for Port Huron, Michigan? Thank you! Bill -- q q ###

Hello Jon, Hild, Hildt, Hilt and Hilty are all nick names of the very old German first names HILDEBRAND and HILDEBRECHT. The suffix -ing means "the son of" or "junior" or "the little/small". Source: Hans Bahlow, Deutsche Namenlexikon, Ffm 1972, S. 238. Kind regards Detlef "Jon Erlandson" <jerlands22@attbi.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Spn%7.16222$fG.108725@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net... > Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? > > Thanks, > > Jon > >

In article <3C3E0199.D4B5D07@erols.com>, Singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: >Charlene Charette wrote: >> >> Sorry for the cross-post. I've never been sure exactly what is the >> difference in these two groups and to which one I should post. >> >> In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments >> for: >> >> state, county, city >> city, county, state >> >> Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? >> > >Yeah, actually. (g) > >I agree with Dave and Carole about order (small to large). I >suspect the majority of pre-WIN9x genealogists DO prefer small to >large, because (1) most of those people did genealogy before >computers, and small-to-large was how it was done in pencil and >paper; (2)in pre-WIN9x environments, one did not have an >unlimited amt of space for a locale and the program simply >chopped off excess letters. This left the user with a Country, a >province, and maybe part of a town-name. That's MUCH more >difficult to track down than town-name, province, part of a >countryname. (use up country-name with "Austrio-Hungarian Empire" >and see what's left for the Parish name) > >And the reason it matters from your database to mine or Dave's or >Carole's is -- if your placenames go large-to-small and ours go >small-to-large, when we exchange data, both ends will have to do >clean-up, and cleanup of possibly truncated information. (I've >seen locales entered as "St. Joseph's Lying-In Hospital, corner >of 7th and Syracuse, now known as Veteran's Memorial Hospital, >Providence, Westmoreland twp, Wissahocking co., Mississippi, >United States." Which is WAAAY more information than is needed >to answer "where was he born?")(g) Yeah: I made up the address, >but not the concept. > >I agree that when citing most documents in sources, one DOES go >from large to small (Fifteenth Census of the US, Virginia, >Henrico county, Richmond City, Fifth Ward) but that used to all >go into text format in a "notes" or "facts" section which HAD >enough space for it all. For us post-WIN9x genealogists there is Reunion on the Macintosh and one of the lists it has is for places which can be created from as many of the various place locations in the database as you choose. This listing has a left to right sorting, but also has a Reverse sort which actually lists all locations in an order of state, county, town, location and then under each location all those persons connected with it. It is very useful for correcting spellings and adding counties or states to data that you have missed. -- Ron

(G) Actually, the question is more, How many ways can you spell Lazlo? Thanks. Cheryl

Well, that's at least "nicer" than low and contemptible -- unless of course Hildebrand translates to l&c? (g) Cheryl Detelf Hahne wrote: > > Hello Jon, > Hild, Hildt, Hilt and Hilty are all nick names of the very old German first > names HILDEBRAND and HILDEBRECHT. The suffix -ing means "the son of" or > "junior" or "the little/small". > Source: Hans Bahlow, Deutsche Namenlexikon, Ffm 1972, S. 238. > Kind regards > Detlef > > "Jon Erlandson" <jerlands22@attbi.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:Spn%7.16222$fG.108725@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net... > > Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > > >

There's Paris Virginia, Vienna Virginia, Romney West Virginia, Lima in (Ohio? Indiana?), Cairo Illinois, Birmingham Alabama, Reading Pennsylvania, Hanover Pennsylvania, York Pennsylvania, Edinburg Virginia and the only states I know that do NOT have a Springfield are Louisiana and Hawaii. (g) Cheryl Ron Lankshear wrote: > > To me > New Orleans sure means USA > But Orleans would mean France > Louisana sure USA > But the other day I saw I think it was > Reading Middlesex Mass > Now first two words had me thinking UK > Then there are places like Birmingham and London and Paris but which country > Ron Lankshear.... Sydney Aust from UK or GB lets be plain England > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Henry F. Brownlee" <hfb1931@bellsouth.net> > To: <GENMSC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: citing locations > > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:20:21 GMT, "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > >I would find BOTH of those wrong, as it does not indicate the COUNTRY. > > >Locations in the USA MUST SAY SO to be correct. > > > > > > > Perhaps for those who do not live in the USA. But for those of us who do, > it > > is a given. And I doubt even those in Great Britain (oops - the UK) will > > think that New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana is other than in the USA. > > But then, I have been wrong once before. > > > > Henry F. Brownlee > > South Louisiana > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On 11 Jan 2002 04:25:50 GMT, Gerry Wright <gdwright@atdial.net> wrote: >From "The Oxford Universal Dictionary", 3rd edition, revised. pg. 903. > >Hilding. Obs. or arch. 1582. [?] 1. A worthless or vicious beast, esp. a >hores - 1719. 2. A good-for-nothing (man of woman) 1592. > >Better you shouldn't have asked. > >Gerry Wright >ZoneZebra Productions >San Francisco Drat! Ya beat me to it! But my Webster's New World College Dictionary also says: a low, contemptible person. < ME heldinge, bending aside < OE heildan, to incline, bow [Archaic] So I gues Mr. Hilding was/coulda been a low bowing, scraping, contemptible rapscallion. But then again, he was probably a nice guy! <g> Henry F. Brownlee South Louisiana

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:20:21 GMT, "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: >I would find BOTH of those wrong, as it does not indicate the COUNTRY. >Locations in the USA MUST SAY SO to be correct. > Perhaps for those who do not live in the USA. But for those of us who do, it is a given. And I doubt even those in Great Britain (oops - the UK) will think that New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana is other than in the USA. But then, I have been wrong once before. Henry F. Brownlee South Louisiana

Jon Erlandson wrote: > Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? > > Thanks, > > Jon From "The Oxford Universal Dictionary", 3rd edition, revised. pg. 903. Hilding. Obs. or arch. 1582. [?] 1. A worthless or vicious beast, esp. a hores - 1719. 2. A good-for-nothing (man of woman) 1592. Better you shouldn't have asked. Gerry Wright ZoneZebra Productions San Francisco

Robert Heiling wrote: > Jon Erlandson wrote: > > > Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > It sounds German/Germanic so hopefully someone will have access to > "Deutsches Namenlexicon" by Hans Von Bahlow which gives the origins of > such German names. Hilding also appears as a surname in Sweden and might > be more Swedish than German. > > Bob Just to add to the above, take a look at: http://www.hi.is/~eybjorn/ugm/ugm5.html#30 and which was accessed from: http://www.hi.is/~eybjorn/ugm/ugm0.html Hopefully that all gives a more or less complete answer to your question. Bob

On 10 Jan 2002 15:39:09 GMT in soc.genealogy.misc, davehinz@spamcop.net wrote: > Wow, so not only do you have a problem reading terms that you agree > to, but you consider non-phone company ISP's to be 'small linux nerd' > groups? > i agreed to pay when they billed me. i read everything i sign, and if i don't agree, i don't sign it. in alaska, *all* small ISPs are run by linux nerds. the others all got bought up by the phone companies.

Jon Erlandson wrote: > Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? > > Thanks, > > Jon It sounds German/Germanic so hopefully someone will have access to "Deutsches Namenlexicon" by Hans Von Bahlow which gives the origins of such German names. Hilding also appears as a surname in Sweden and might be more Swedish than German. Bob

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Charlene Charette wrote: >Sorry for the cross-post. I've never been sure exactly what is the >difference in these two groups and to which one I should post. > >In citing locations is there a "right" way? I've seen good arguments >for: > >state, county, city >city, county, state > >Does it really matter as long as it's consistent? I would find BOTH of those wrong, as it does not indicate the COUNTRY. Locations in the USA MUST SAY SO to be correct. I generally cite locations as city/town, county, state, country. Some countries don't have separate counties and states (Europe). Any further definition (such as a building or cemetery [depending on the event the place is tied to]) I leave to the event's notes.

Anyone have insight into the origin and meaning of this name? Thanks, Jon

davehinz@spamcop.net wrote: > I can't see a good reason to do it the other way, and this seems to > be the convention, so my vote would be to agree with you. One argument I've seen for listing general to specific is when you have a list of locations it makes spotting migration patterns easier. --Charlene -- How can "crash course" and "collision course" have two different meanings? -- George Carlin ===== Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - mailto:findbook@flash.net