Could anypne possibly lookup in the Telephone Directory in Transvaal, South Africa to see if there are any persons with the name of INGHAM living there. My daughter has lost touch with a God-daughter. Any help would be much appreciated, White pages do not seem to be on the net! Mike Williams.

Dear Ladies & Gentlemen, If I may, I'd like to state my conclusions re: what I've learned about copyrighting family trees & then wait for your comments. 1. Translations can be copyrighted. In a dark, large storage room, there are 2000 books of manuscripts--all written in Italian calligraphy. I pore over them, locate 20 books, extract 50 manuscripts and from them build a family tree, transforming the Italian calligraphy into modern English. For the first time in history, I write down & document in English that Joe B is the gggggdad of Mary Sue--that's an original translation & is copyrightable. That is not a mechanical act. It requires total concentration, an incredible imagination to expect the unexpected and a great sense of logic. That's not mechanical--it's intellectual. That can be copyrighted. I keep a copy of the originals & the receipt for the copy charges. If someone asks me to prove my sources & prove I did the translation, I pull out the original, the final product & the reciepts. I really feel now that this is more at a moral level than a legal one. It goes back to jr high & high school teachers haranguing about plagiarism. 2.My work on the families' trees will not be published as a separate entity, rather it will appear in a sociological & genealogical study of 2 small towns in Central Italy. The reference text will use as its sources all the original manuscripts concerning the towns. These documents are semi-public in location, supposedly public in nature, by this I mean that they are extremely difficult to access. Of course, the original manuscripts will not be included in the textbook, only samples of them will be shown. I'll keep all the copies of the originals in case someone questions a connection I made or didn't make. Of course, once the reference book is published and someone lifts a paragraph, without getting permission & footnoting it, it would be easy to prove the act. It might not be that easy to prove whodunnit. 3. My work will never be published on the web. I'm still rather peeved over the fact that some big company sexually abused my original work and is profiting from their incestuous act. The reader may note that what I'm refering to is the fact that genealogy.com "found" my original 1980 family tree and "adjusted" it. On their cd, my grandfather's grandfather married his own son and produced my grandfather. Yes, I did inform them immediately of the heinous deed. Further, I informed them that I made 5 copies of their CD & begged them to sue me. Never heard nuttin, honey. Not holding my breath, either. 4. One very important conclusion is that this kind of work is a real brain teaser & if there's money to be made & I'm the one dun the work, I expect an important part of that money. 5. My work will never be published on the net, at least not by me. If I hold the copyright for a reference book that's successful, that's enough icing on my cake. I don't need to have my ancestors' memory and information lathered all over cyberspace in such a common manner or by such a street-corner method. I know that a cultured person would present the completed work and then its proof. Example, one of the slurper family tree websites provides the reader with 200+ listings for the Neros of the town of Palmoli, 40 miles SE of my ancestral home. Upon inspection, one notices that the writer provided exceedingly few connections. Logic would dictate that if you have 100 marriages of x surname, all from the same, small town whose migration patterns are traditional 1800's Italian, they should all be connected by blood in some way. (During that century & in that area, migration was very low, although not as low as the prior centuries). That connection could range anywhere from sibling to 5th cousin. No connections are found within the work. Illogical! This shows the work to be incorrect and/or half-baked! If I had done this and published it, I would feel shame. The toughest, brain-teasing work was never done. Docs were pulled, part of the info slurped and work submitted. THIS IS MECHANICAL WORK! No inductive & deductive reasoning skills were involved or applied. End of story. All loose ends! That kind of work is not worth the space it's taking up. Comments welcome & thank you, Eugene Nero 305 993 5023

I came across the above site today and wonder what kind of information is recorded on the original application for a social security card. My grandmother went to the United States in the 20's. She was originally from Nova Scotia. I am looking for the maiden name of her mother. Would that information have been requested. Thanks George

George wrote: > > I came across the above site today and wonder what kind of information is > recorded on the original application for a social security card. > > My grandmother went to the United States in the 20's. She was originally > from Nova Scotia. > > I am looking for the maiden name of her mother. Would that information have > been requested. Yes, if she applied for a Social Security card it would include her mother's maiden name, assuming she knew what it was. The application process began in 1936, I believe. If you go to the link below you will see an example of a Social Security application (SS-5) and the information contained on it at my web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~curtis/norma.htm. Best regards, Mike Curtis

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I am looking for any information about an R.J. Maxwell born 1838 in Mississippi, wife Valinda- born 1841; Children: J.B. born 1871, F.J. born 1873 and Ada born 1875. Also looking for a James Miller, born 1847 Alabama; wife Susan born 1855 in Louiaiana; Children Clara- born 1874, Sarah, born 1875, Van, born 1877, Cora born 1878 and Henry born 1880. Both of these families were on the 1880 Grant Parish Louisiana Census- ward 2- J.B. Maxwell and Clara Miller were my great grandparents. Thanks.

Todd, If someone responded, it didn't show up in my d/l either. For reasons that elude me the s.g.computing and .misc have been very slow since about mid-November. Ordinarily they pick up again after New Years' but not this time. Cheryl Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH wrote: > > (sigh!) Alachua FreeNet, my ISP, hasn't received any soc.gen (as in > newsgroup, not listmail) mail in the last few days (although I note I HAVE > been able to SEND without problem). > Now suddenly mail is back, there's no word what the problem was (which is > usual for them), but the mail is sparse, like it just started up this > morning. > There should be HUNDREDS of pieces of mail in here. > > If anyone actually responded to my query, would you mind sending again, > please? > > This is the downside of having a free service. Everyone is volunteer and > it's likely you won't get word when things go wrong, or when they're fixed, > either. 8^) > > Thanks, > > Todd > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH > Gainesville, Alachua Co. FL > E-mail: afn09444@afn.org > Web: http://www.afn.org/~afn09444 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH <afn09444@afn.org> wrote in message > news:a2kc3e$16ag$1@oak.cise.ufl.edu... > > How did they go about getting information on things to paint in photos > > like jewelry? Did they ask the customer to bring in a photo of someone > > wearing jewelry already, that they could then copy to the new photo? or > did > > they ask the customer to actually bring IN some jewelry to be copied to > the > > photo? Was just curious. > > > > In this photo: > > > > > > > http://www.fireline.org/kb4mhh/genealog/photos/sterner/people/ritter_ce.jpg > > > > ...the woman is wearing jewelry (painted in, of course) which actually > > belonged to an ancestor in another separate line. > > > > Now for the funny part, unrelated to the subject, but good for grins, > > anyway... > > > > Take your hands and cover all extraneous stuff except the face. This > > includes covering the hairline. > > > > ...SCARED? ...*I* sure as heck am! 8^) Makes me wonder if I really > WANT > > to be doing this family research. I may NOT want to know... > > > > 8^) > > > > Okay, now back to your normal, everyday genealogcial researching > > routine.... > > > > Todd > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH > > Gainesville, Alachua Co. FL > > E-mail: afn09444@afn.org > > Web: http://www.afn.org/~afn09444 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >

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RootsWeb wrote: > We own the ISP <snip> > > Robert Heiling wrote: > > > > RootsWeb wrote: > > > > > We just <snip> > > > > Foul spam abuse reported to ISP. > > > > Bob Another report has been filed to cancel the account you are using now after the other one was cancelled. Bob

We own the ISP shithead! You suck our dicks for this info! Hahahahahaha!!! Robert Heiling wrote: > > RootsWeb wrote: > > > We just <snip> > > Foul spam abuse reported to ISP. > > Bob

Anyone out there working on Colorado? I have lost all tracks in Leadville july 28 1904. Emil F Lindstrom (b 1869) then went to Glenwood Springs because he was ill. Before that he lived with his family at 324 East 5th street. I do know he worked in the "Midas" mine and that he had claimed some land in Grand Junction. Greatful for any tips on how to go on.... crister.lindstrom@bredband.net

Dear All ~ A friend of mine is searching for relatives or friends of a former classmate of hers named ALFRED (Avraham Abba) Gover (1915-1995). While she knew him when they were children in public school in the Bronx, his last listed address was on East 29th Street in Brooklyn. I have already checked for possible obituaries/death notices in the Times and the Daily News, and I have done a search via Google, but very little has turned up about him. I look forward to your invaluable leads and suggestions. Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@aol.com> Long Beach, New York

On 25 Jan 2002 in soc.genealogy.misc, lsilvand wrote: > I've been looking at different genealogy programs, but I'm not sure > which to choose. Is there a universal standard (like ASCII or HTML) > that I should be sure the program is able to read and write in (for > sharing data with other genealogy interested people)? Pretty much any genealogy program will read/write GEDCOM (GEnealogical Data COMmunication), a text-format data file used to transfer information between programs. Read some of the debates in news:soc.genealogy.computing for thoughts on how well it does/doesn't work. Most programs have some capacity for outputting html pages from your dataset. Some provide hosting; with the others, it's up to you. There are also a number of utilities which will take a GEDCOM file as input and output a website. > Are there any light freeware programs that anyone could recommend? Two free programs, both full-featured and quite usable, are Legacy http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ and Personal Ancestral File (PAF) http://familysearch.org/ -- Joe Makowiec can be reached at: makowiec(at)nycap(dot)rr(dot)com

(sigh!) Alachua FreeNet, my ISP, hasn't received any soc.gen (as in newsgroup, not listmail) mail in the last few days (although I note I HAVE been able to SEND without problem). Now suddenly mail is back, there's no word what the problem was (which is usual for them), but the mail is sparse, like it just started up this morning. There should be HUNDREDS of pieces of mail in here. If anyone actually responded to my query, would you mind sending again, please? This is the downside of having a free service. Everyone is volunteer and it's likely you won't get word when things go wrong, or when they're fixed, either. 8^) Thanks, Todd -------------------------------------------------------------- Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH Gainesville, Alachua Co. FL E-mail: afn09444@afn.org Web: http://www.afn.org/~afn09444 -------------------------------------------------------------- Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH <afn09444@afn.org> wrote in message news:a2kc3e$16ag$1@oak.cise.ufl.edu... > How did they go about getting information on things to paint in photos > like jewelry? Did they ask the customer to bring in a photo of someone > wearing jewelry already, that they could then copy to the new photo? or did > they ask the customer to actually bring IN some jewelry to be copied to the > photo? Was just curious. > > In this photo: > > > http://www.fireline.org/kb4mhh/genealog/photos/sterner/people/ritter_ce.jpg > > ...the woman is wearing jewelry (painted in, of course) which actually > belonged to an ancestor in another separate line. > > Now for the funny part, unrelated to the subject, but good for grins, > anyway... > > Take your hands and cover all extraneous stuff except the face. This > includes covering the hairline. > > ...SCARED? ...*I* sure as heck am! 8^) Makes me wonder if I really WANT > to be doing this family research. I may NOT want to know... > > 8^) > > Okay, now back to your normal, everyday genealogcial researching > routine.... > > Todd > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH > Gainesville, Alachua Co. FL > E-mail: afn09444@afn.org > Web: http://www.afn.org/~afn09444 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >

Hi, I've been looking at different genealogy programs, but I'm not sure which to choose. Is there a universal standard (like ASCII or HTML) that I should be sure the program is able to read and write in (for sharing data with other genealogy interested people)? Are there any light freeware programs that anyone could recommend? Regards, Linus Silvander

RootsWeb wrote: > We just <snip> Foul spam abuse reported to ISP. Bob

My brother met his best friend on their first day of Kindergarten and they have been best friends for the 42 years since then. Last year while pursuing another branch of the family, I discovered that my brother's best friend was our 3rd cousin! We had no inkling of this all those years. Kathryn Rogers "sarah.burningham" <sarah.burningham@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:UPP38.10665$4i5.1474782@news11-gui.server.ntli.net... > Hi, > > It's nice to hear that family research has some happy outcomes. > > My late father knew nothing of his family background, except that he had > been left in an orphanage with his two brothers. His father had died and > his mother had married another man, who didn;t want the boys. > > All of his life my father tried to trace his brothers. He saw the youngest > one only once when they were in the army (different regiments) and after > Frank's demob, even the army couldn't help Dad find him again. > > Dad never found Harry. I got the bit between my teeth just over a year ago > and tracked down Harry's widow. Harry and Dad had died withing days of each > other. Margaret and I now correspond as regularly as we can. I have gained > an Aunt, 6 cousins and 13 second cousins. Plan to go and meet them all this > summer. > > Sarah > "Nelly" <gusnelly@orconFULLSTOPcoFULLSTOPnz> wrote in message > news:2n2v4us71663rpq1247apjg78edcaq7gvg@4ax.com... > > Well not so lost. I have been working on my hubbies family tree, it > > was last updated 19 years ago. It turns out that a friend of mine who > > has been a friend for the last 17 years ago is my husbands 3rd cousin. > > > > We are all stunned, kids are ecstatic as they get along really well. > > My hubbies mum came from a family of 12 children and her father is one > > of 16. It also turns out that my friend is close to some closer > > relations of ours but we have never been at family gatherings at the > > same time. > > > > Makes me wonder what else I'll find in there? > > > > Anyway, this is out of the Richards Reed side of his family in NZ that > > emigrated from England in the 1800's, so if anyone has any link to us > > can you please post here or email me by demunging my email address. > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Nelly. > > ICQ 14823033 > > > > If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours :-) > >

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Well not so lost. I have been working on my hubbies family tree, it was last updated 19 years ago. It turns out that a friend of mine who has been a friend for the last 17 years ago is my husbands 3rd cousin. We are all stunned, kids are ecstatic as they get along really well. My hubbies mum came from a family of 12 children and her father is one of 16. It also turns out that my friend is close to some closer relations of ours but we have never been at family gatherings at the same time. Makes me wonder what else I'll find in there? Anyway, this is out of the Richards Reed side of his family in NZ that emigrated from England in the 1800's, so if anyone has any link to us can you please post here or email me by demunging my email address. TIA, Nelly. ICQ 14823033 If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours :-)

Looking for any Pentico's from Woodward Iowa? My Grandmother was Pearl Della Pentico, she married Robert Burkhart. Does anyone know any living members of her family?