Really? They can't touch me, you moron. Still haven't lost my account. Robert Jerin wrote: > > "RootsWeb" <RSL@Rootsweb.com> wrote in message > news:3C5227D9.BF321A4F@Rootsweb.com... > > We own the ISP shithead! You suck our dicks for this info! > > Hahahahahaha!!! > > > Abuse reported to Prodigy

To look for Benjamin and Fred Hogg in the 1920 Census, look for Essex County, New Jersey, as the town of Belleville is located just west and somewhat north of the city of Newark. Good luck Reg Pitts BlanketGHS@aol.com

In Legacy you can flag stuff for its surety level - 3 of the options are 2. Probable conclusion 1. Marginal evidence 0. Have not yet decided Maybe you can merge the data and auto source all your fathers stuff as one of the above as you get the evidence you can change the source and then only call up your father's ones that need confirming You can get a list of all info that is from a particular source. -- Helen Castle have a look at my rellie's at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hcastle/ ICQ 3184996 Penrith Dispensary Register http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jmalloy Miscellaneous Newspaper Transcripts http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hcastle Happy to share my AVRI's and NSW BDM's email me for lookups For the discussion of Australia and New Zealand genealogy. The oldest and most extensive mailing list for the region. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/GEN "Charlene Charette" <charlene@flash.net> wrote in message news:3C564810.AA7EC2B9@flash.net... > I decided to work on my family tree. Dad was a little interested, but > not terribly so. He had other projects (he's retired). His mother died > and he inherited boxes of pictures and newspaper clippings. He recently > finished up his other projects and has gotten bit by the genealogy bug. > I'm using Legacy so he downloaded a copy, started entering people from > the newspaper clippings, family stories, etc. He scanned in old photos > and emailed them to me (we're in different states). I'm sure he's > driving Mom crazy, but at least he has a new project to be excited > about. > > All that's the good news. The bad news is I haven't been able to get > him to listen when I try to explain good research procedures. Little to > none of his data is documented and I don't forsee getting him to change > any time soon as he's very stubborn (as was his mother; my husband says > I come by it honest). He's of the mindset that it must be true because > that's the story he's heard all his life and they even printed it in the > paper. > > So, I figure I have one of two solutions, but I'm not sure which is > best: > > 1) Merge his data into mine and flag his entries as coming from him so > I know I'll need to provide the documentation. > > 2) Keep his data separate and add it to mine as I verify it. > > I can see (2) being a pain in the butt to maintain two databases and > keeping track of what has been merged and what hasn't. I'm sure there > are some "gotcha's" to (1) that I'm not forseeing. And there are > probably other options I haven't considered. > > Advice? > > Thanks, > --Charlene > > -- > When a lion escapes from a circus in Africa, how do they know when > they've caught the right one? --George Carlin > ===== > Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - > mailto:findbook@flash.net

I am looking for the family of Benjamin Hogg who emigrated in 1919 arriving on the 19th at Ellis Island He joined his brother F.(?frederick) Hogg whose address was152 Mill Street, Belleville, Newark. Frederick was born 1868 and Benjamin 1872 both in Sheffield, England. Benjamin's wife Jessie (nee Lemmon) and their children followed in 1920, the girls were born around 1900. How do I find F. Hogg in the census, I have his address as 152 Mill Street, Belleville, Newark in information from Ellis Island site. I looked in the 1920 but I needed a county and I don't know what it would be. Any ideas please???? Anybody recognise a link to their researches. I have a 1200+ name tree in England but I have not done any research in USA. Regards Keith Richardson

Is anyone out there related to a Emil F Lindstrom b feb 10 1869. Last known address 324 East 5 th street Leadville Colorado: He and his family left in july 1904 for Glenwood Springs. And there were some connections to Grand Junction. I am also interested in Johan Edvard Mauritz Lindstrom b nov 17 1884. He arrived in Leadville 1900. Last trace of him is a picture taken by Baker in Greeley. The family tradition says his was shot dead, but this is not confirmed. With greetings from Stockholm, Sweden crister.lindstrom@bredband.net

>I have an obituary of a Francis Suttan Livingston, in which it states that he >was a staff captain to General Grant in the US Civil War. Can anyone >recommend any websites where I might be able to check up on this I can't suggest a website, but they have these places called "libraries". You might be able to find in a university library in the UK a series of books called, for short, "The Official Records" or "OR". They are the US Gov't "Official Records of the War of the Rebellion", a collection of reproductions of messages and orders sent during the Civil War. There is an overall reference volume or volumes which simply give a citation to a particular numbered volume. In the numbered volume there is an index with page citations. As I recall there are about 120 or so volumes. Regards, Clifford Sayre in Silver Spring, MD

At 11:54 AM 1/29/2002 +0000, Clifford Sayre <cliffsayr@aol.com> wrote in response to a query by Graeme Wall <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk>: >...I can't suggest a website, but they have these places called "libraries". You might be able to find in a university library in the UK a series of books called, for short, "The Official Records" or "OR". They are the US Gov't "Official Records of the War of the Rebellion", a collection of reproductions of messages and orders sent during the Civil War. There is an overall reference volume or volumes which simply give a citation to a particular numbered volume. In the numbered volume there is an index with page citations. As I recall there are about 120 or so volumes.... The full title of the huge collection that Clifford mentioned is: "The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies". Incredibly (at least to me) the entire set, including the index, is now available on the web as part of the "Making of America" project" <http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/browse.monographs/waro.html>. Obviously, with a work of this size, the web site is a bit unwieldy--but it looks to me as though it is all there for the hunting. Rollie

I decided to work on my family tree. Dad was a little interested, but not terribly so. He had other projects (he's retired). His mother died and he inherited boxes of pictures and newspaper clippings. He recently finished up his other projects and has gotten bit by the genealogy bug. I'm using Legacy so he downloaded a copy, started entering people from the newspaper clippings, family stories, etc. He scanned in old photos and emailed them to me (we're in different states). I'm sure he's driving Mom crazy, but at least he has a new project to be excited about. All that's the good news. The bad news is I haven't been able to get him to listen when I try to explain good research procedures. Little to none of his data is documented and I don't forsee getting him to change any time soon as he's very stubborn (as was his mother; my husband says I come by it honest). He's of the mindset that it must be true because that's the story he's heard all his life and they even printed it in the paper. So, I figure I have one of two solutions, but I'm not sure which is best: 1) Merge his data into mine and flag his entries as coming from him so I know I'll need to provide the documentation. 2) Keep his data separate and add it to mine as I verify it. I can see (2) being a pain in the butt to maintain two databases and keeping track of what has been merged and what hasn't. I'm sure there are some "gotcha's" to (1) that I'm not forseeing. And there are probably other options I haven't considered. Advice? Thanks, --Charlene -- When a lion escapes from a circus in Africa, how do they know when they've caught the right one? --George Carlin ===== Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - mailto:findbook@flash.net

Information sent by e-mail. <commodoregb@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3C55B61F.1020208@yahoo.com... > Does anyone have a census index for Missouri, I am looking for Thomas > Krautlager, I don't know whether he is head of household or a child. > Any help would be appreciated. >

Does anyone have a census index for Missouri, I am looking for Thomas Krautlager, I don't know whether he is head of household or a child. Any help would be appreciated.

I have an obituary of a Francis Suttan Livingston, in which it states that he was a staff captain to General Grant in the US Civil War. Can anyone recommend any websites where I might be able to check up on this? -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website: <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html>

Just testing > >

Michael Williams wrote: > Any help would be much appreciated, White pages do not seem to be on the > net! Perhaps this will help: http://www.teldir.com/ --Charlene -- When a lion escapes from a circus in Africa, how do they know when they've caught the right one? --George Carlin ===== Free Book Searches (out-of-print, hard-to-find, foreign, used, new) - mailto:findbook@flash.net

Helen! That's the problem. You read the first line & react. I don't write one liners. My goals in posting to this google group are: 1. Learn about the law & I have done that. I think the most salient bit of info is the comment by Sandra Day O'Conner re: historical fact. I am fully aware that one can lift a family tree from a textbook and reprint elsewhere. Once the textbook printed & sold, I really don't care if someone 'lifts' parts of trees. I would prefer that they give credit where credit's due. My cousin's daughter put up a website a year ago showing off her family using my work. She never told me; I stumbled onto it 2 months ago. I was impressed by her recognition of my work. Right there, first line in bold print: The source of this info is: ENN, etc. Beautiful! She did it with out my permission or knowledge, but she gave me in big bold print recognition. She not only new the law; she new the morality. She understood the concept and defect of plagiarism. 2.Publically lambast genealogy.com into being more careful when slurping op's work. I'd like to see them go more into the Mormon requirement of citing sources. Scholarship requires that we quote our source, or at least that's one thing I remember from my high school years back in the '60S. 3. Publically advise that I am writing a reference text with a much smaller focal point than: Itals to America, vols 1 thru-12, yet similar to it. 4. We can't stop a thief if he wants to break into our house in the middle of the night. What we can do is put up proper lighting around the house's exterior. That's what I'm doing here. Members of my very extended family & the ccc who gave my work to genealogy.com read my postings. Family politics, in such a large and proud family, is very intricate. No one will ever take sides, that's a no no. Nonetheless, their exists within all of us a very strong sense of honesty. Helen, you wrote: All you do is post to a genealogy newsgroup about someone breaking copyright then I feel you are tilting your lance at windmills. It is far beyond my parameters to comment on your feelings. The plain fact is saw the first line and ran with it. A lot of people are like that nowadays. They go off half-cocked and do their thing leaving the messes for others to clean up. The only question that has remained unanswered for me is this year's sales stats for Italians to America!!! That author has raked in the money & that's not jealousy, it's envy. Well, as I say, I'm no Don Quijote, I'm too young. Maybe in another 20 years. All I'm doing is throwing the spaghetti up against the wall to see what happens. If it sticks, fine, if it doesn't, it needs more cooking. That's all that's going on here. A little testing of the waters, notice to g.com, to family members, a little publicity--that's all, nothing more. Remember that we all write in very different ways and for various reasons. I hope I've shown why. Bye & keep in touch, Regards, Eugene

The 1659 Census Download available at http://www.gencd.com

According to Rootsweb, "The first Social Security card was issued 1 December 1936 and on 1 January 1937, U.S. workers began acquiring "credits" toward old- age benefits" http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm Sherry apador@aol.comma (Anee) wrote in news:20020127201902.22909.00000638@mb- fm.aol.com: >>From a 1936 SS-5 application for a Social Security Number: > > Do you know when the first ones were issued? > > A.

>From a 1936 SS-5 application for a Social Security Number: Do you know when the first ones were issued? A. "I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship." Louisa May Alcott

"George" <georgema(nospam)@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > I came across the above site today and wonder what kind of information is > recorded on the original application for a social security card. From a 1936 SS-5 application for a Social Security Number: Applicant's Full Name Married Women: Maiden First Name, Maiden Last Name, Husband's Last Name Applicant's Street Address, Post Office and State Business Name and Address of Current Employer Applicant's Age at Last Birthday Applicant's Date of Birth Applicant's Place of Birth Applicant's Father's Full Name Applicant's Mother's Full Maiden Name Applicant's Gender Applicant's Race Applicant's Registration Number with US Employment Service (if applicable) Details of Applicant's Previous Application (if applicable) Date Signed Applicant's Signature I think the current cost for a copy is $27 and it took about three weeks for one that I sent for in December, 2001. Happy hunting! Dwayne Mosser

Good morning Anee, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anee" <apador@aol.comma> To: <GENMSC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Social Security Death Index >From a 1936 SS-5 application for a Social Security Number: Do you know when the first ones were issued? ------end of original message----extraneous snipped---- Many of the answers about the enactment of the Social Security Act signed by FDR in 1935 can be found in the Social Security Bulletin Volume 1 Number 6 June 1938, a copy of which can be seen at URL http://www.ssa.gov/history/fay638.html Remember, not all workers were covered. You are welcome. A. John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404

"RootsWeb" <RSL@Rootsweb.com> wrote in message news:3C5227D9.BF321A4F@Rootsweb.com... > We own the ISP shithead! You suck our dicks for this info! > Hahahahahaha!!! > Abuse reported to Prodigy