Thanks much for all the suggestions. The middle word looked like "waist" to me also, although the form of the "t" is odd and differs from others on the page. But I couldn't make any sense of it. I like the idea suggested by several that "waist" is a garment -- I've never encountered that usage, although of course "shirtwaist" is familiar. Gives me an interesting line for further research. Thanks again.

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If the second word is "waist" as some of the replies suggest, then this could have something to do with the garment industry. My grandmothers always called blouses and shirts - "waists" Just my 2 cents.

Dexter Kenfield wrote: > > I'm having trouble reading an entry for Occupation in the 1920 census. > > The relevant portion of the page is at: > http://dkenfield.home.mindspring.com/graphics/blowup.jpg > > The line below the "none" entry is the problem. > > It looks to me like the first word is "Examiner" and the third word is > "House." > > Second word? Meaning? It makes little sense to me. > > This is a Russian Jewish family in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. > > Appreciate any suggestions. They're definitely in the garment-district! (g) I'll agree with Barbara Brown -- Examiner, Waist House. Probably a quality-inspector for the top half of one's clothing -- probably women's blouses, since they were called "waists" back then. HTH Cheryl

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In an earlier day, women's blouses, or the top half of their costumes, were called "waists". Could this man have been an inspector in a garment factory which made waists? Many Jewish immigrants went into the garment industry. Much of this was on the lower east side. And often the word "house" is used for a business, as when we say "in-house publication." Just a guess. I'd also look quickly through the neighborhood to see if this occupation occurs in any other household around. Jan Hall

On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 03:07:55 GMT, "C'est Moi" <sherdh@excite.com> wrote: Is it waist house or waste house? Some of the other people's employment was working for a cloak manufacturer. Something to do with measurments of men's clothing...waist house? > > >Taking clues from the words I could read, it looks like the 2nd word is >"waist" although I don't know what a "waist house" would be! > >See the way the "W" was written on line 99? (Waiter in restaurant) >Although what I think *might* be a "T" at the end of that work isn't >written as open in the listings you show. The letter in the next column >is most likely a "w" for "worker" as opposed to the "emp" for employer. > >I did a google search for "waist house" - you don't want to know what 3 >of the 5 hits related to - but I did see one genealogy site that was a >transcription from an 1870 census for Moore, Northampton Co, PA - the >person was a clerk in a waist house. > >So I guess now the trick is to find out what a waist house is!!! > >Sherry

Dexter Kenfield <dekester@mindspring.com> wrote in news:s9sr5usq1fpth0ptk53i7lhq2pk7m5vioe@4ax.com: > I'm having trouble reading an entry for Occupation in the 1920 census. > > The relevant portion of the page is at: > http://dkenfield.home.mindspring.com/graphics/blowup.jpg > > The line below the "none" entry is the problem. > > It looks to me like the first word is "Examiner" and the third word is > "House." > > Second word? Meaning? It makes little sense to me. > > This is a Russian Jewish family in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Taking clues from the words I could read, it looks like the 2nd word is "waist" although I don't know what a "waist house" would be! See the way the "W" was written on line 99? (Waiter in restaurant) Although what I think *might* be a "T" at the end of that work isn't written as open in the listings you show. The letter in the next column is most likely a "w" for "worker" as opposed to the "emp" for employer. I did a google search for "waist house" - you don't want to know what 3 of the 5 hits related to - but I did see one genealogy site that was a transcription from an 1870 census for Moore, Northampton Co, PA - the person was a clerk in a waist house. So I guess now the trick is to find out what a waist house is!!! Sherry

I don't know Russian or Yiddish, but could it mean something like Poor House or something of that nature... The Cranky genee On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:26:46 -0500, Dexter Kenfield <dekester@mindspring.com> wrote: >I'm having trouble reading an entry for Occupation in the 1920 census. > >The relevant portion of the page is at: >http://dkenfield.home.mindspring.com/graphics/blowup.jpg > >The line below the "none" entry is the problem. > >It looks to me like the first word is "Examiner" and the third word is >"House." > >Second word? Meaning? It makes little sense to me. > >This is a Russian Jewish family in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. > >Appreciate any suggestions.

As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs and they seem quite poor compared with yours. Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the first time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds Double click on name takes 99 seconds going back to original list takes 1 second Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region but only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a similar time to National Index Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 second Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and all the A's B's Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names clicking on name 1 sec Clicking on National Index 1 second Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British Census heading with no search screen Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that getting the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably because there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it will make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk bashing taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders Hope these obsevations help Gordon Betts "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > Guy (or any other expert!) > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > **fairly** happy with the results. > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > second. That's all fantastic. > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > Do you experience this issue?? 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Dexter Kenfield wrote: > > I'm having trouble reading an entry for Occupation in the 1920 census. > > This is a Russian Jewish family in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. > "examiner" seems to be (from other Russian Jewish families I have been researching lately) a step up from Worker or Tailor or Presser or Cutter in clothing manufacture. If you can get the prvious census, or some city directory entries for this person, you will probably find that they worked in a 'shirtwaist' (dress!) factory.

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I'm having trouble reading an entry for Occupation in the 1920 census. The relevant portion of the page is at: http://dkenfield.home.mindspring.com/graphics/blowup.jpg The line below the "none" entry is the problem. It looks to me like the first word is "Examiner" and the third word is "House." Second word? Meaning? It makes little sense to me. This is a Russian Jewish family in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Appreciate any suggestions.

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