Certainly not Birmingham announced they were going to sell Viewer 4 as a seperate item last year (October). It was available from the Preston centre in September/October when the Preston FHS fair was held as I called there after the fair and purchased a copy. I have noticed occassionally helpers at Birmingham are not fully up to speed with the latest releases, possibly they are helping out from other departments. Cheers Guy -- Wakefield England http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/york.htm Yorkshire Pages, Photos, and transcripts with a Yorkshire flavour > I spoke at length with LDS in UK yesterday and was sold a copy of Viewer 3 > which though not available anymore separately is still bundled at no extra > cost with the Mormon Disk. They made no mention of the existence of Viewer 4 > so I assume it is a case of UK being behind US again and would need to be > ordered directly from USA if wanted in hurry. I will be interested in seeing > how Viewer 3 performs differently from Viewer 2 and how Viewer 4 performs > differently from the other two when I can lay my hand on it but I feel that > I should observe that for anyone wanting to run the standard issue (with > 1881 Census) Viewer 2 with WindowsXp they should have no worries: it > performs perfectly well as far as I can see and the only reason that I would > try the others is that I am one of those inveterate fiddlers and twiddler > who will try anything 17 times.. > > Gordon >

Interesting thread this as I made enquiries through the LDS in Birmingham on Monday about Viewer 3 or 4 for 1881. They said that neither was available for 1881 although the US LDS had replied to my email query saying that I could upgrade to Viewer 4. Guy - I am running Viewer 2 on XP and am not having any problems. I wonder should I have said that and am now tempting fate! I was about to try your instructions for using both DVD and CD-ROM drives. Do you know of any reason why this shouldn't work with XP? Regards Lesley "ntlnews" <gbetts@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:a3rook$np1$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... > > "Guy Etchells" <guy.etchells@virgin.net> wrote in message > news:3C61368F.B80AEECA@virgin.net... > > Sorry I have not contributed to this thread to date but I have been tied > > up with work. > > > > Viewer 2 is not really suitable for use with Windows XP and XP uses > > would be better suited using Viewer 4 which is available separately, > > Viewer 3 has been discontinued as a separate release. > > I spoke at length with LDS in UK yesterday and was sold a copy of Viewer 3 > which though not available anymore separately is still bundled at no extra > cost with the Mormon Disk. They made no mention of the existence of Viewer 4 > so I assume it is a case of UK being behind US again and would need to be > ordered directly from USA if wanted in hurry. I will be interested in seeing > how Viewer 3 performs differently from Viewer 2 and how Viewer 4 performs > differently from the other two when I can lay my hand on it but I feel that > I should observe that for anyone wanting to run the standard issue (with > 1881 Census) Viewer 2 with WindowsXp they should have no worries: it > performs perfectly well as far as I can see and the only reason that I would > try the others is that I am one of those inveterate fiddlers and twiddler > who will try anything 17 times.. > > Gordon > > > > See the bottom of my page > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/1881.htm > > for options. > > > > As to the speed concerns, there will be very little difference in > > loading times with virtually any modern Pentium (or equivalent) based > > machines the speed, size and fragmentation of the hard drive would have > > more effect on the loading times. > > Cheers > > Guy > > > > -- > > Wakefield England > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/york.htm > > Yorkshire Pages, Photos, and transcripts with a Yorkshire flavour > > > > > > > I Think we would have to compare like with like Simon and I have version > 2 > > > of the viewer though I only received the disk set new from LDS's order > > > department last week. I have been unable to find a download source for > > > Viewer 3 to try it and see if its behaviour mirrors yours more closely. > I > > > have tried the census on two different computers just to see if it makes > a > > > difference. Both have 512MB but one is a 1.4 Athlon and the other an 800 > MHz > > > Pentium3. Very little difference in the timings and no difference in the > > > behaviour. I am running XP however and on both computers the system is > not > > > on drive C:, on one it is on D: and the other on E:. and the CENSUS > data is > > > not on the system disk in either case. I haven't had a chance to > consider > > > the registry entries to see if they are optimum. LDS do not recommend > > > running either viewer on XP at the moment. > > > The lady at LDS is uncertain how you got Viewer 3 as it does not come > with > > > the 1881 Census set but I have ordered it from her separately and will > > > compare its behaviour when it arrives and let you know the results. > > > > > > Meanwhile perhaps other users may care to contribute? > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > >

"Guy Etchells" <guy.etchells@virgin.net> wrote in message news:3C61368F.B80AEECA@virgin.net... > Sorry I have not contributed to this thread to date but I have been tied > up with work. > > Viewer 2 is not really suitable for use with Windows XP and XP uses > would be better suited using Viewer 4 which is available separately, > Viewer 3 has been discontinued as a separate release. I spoke at length with LDS in UK yesterday and was sold a copy of Viewer 3 which though not available anymore separately is still bundled at no extra cost with the Mormon Disk. They made no mention of the existence of Viewer 4 so I assume it is a case of UK being behind US again and would need to be ordered directly from USA if wanted in hurry. I will be interested in seeing how Viewer 3 performs differently from Viewer 2 and how Viewer 4 performs differently from the other two when I can lay my hand on it but I feel that I should observe that for anyone wanting to run the standard issue (with 1881 Census) Viewer 2 with WindowsXp they should have no worries: it performs perfectly well as far as I can see and the only reason that I would try the others is that I am one of those inveterate fiddlers and twiddler who will try anything 17 times.. Gordon > > See the bottom of my page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/1881.htm > for options. > > As to the speed concerns, there will be very little difference in > loading times with virtually any modern Pentium (or equivalent) based > machines the speed, size and fragmentation of the hard drive would have > more effect on the loading times. > Cheers > Guy > > -- > Wakefield England > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/york.htm > Yorkshire Pages, Photos, and transcripts with a Yorkshire flavour > > > > I Think we would have to compare like with like Simon and I have version 2 > > of the viewer though I only received the disk set new from LDS's order > > department last week. I have been unable to find a download source for > > Viewer 3 to try it and see if its behaviour mirrors yours more closely. I > > have tried the census on two different computers just to see if it makes a > > difference. Both have 512MB but one is a 1.4 Athlon and the other an 800 MHz > > Pentium3. Very little difference in the timings and no difference in the > > behaviour. I am running XP however and on both computers the system is not > > on drive C:, on one it is on D: and the other on E:. and the CENSUS data is > > not on the system disk in either case. I haven't had a chance to consider > > the registry entries to see if they are optimum. LDS do not recommend > > running either viewer on XP at the moment. > > The lady at LDS is uncertain how you got Viewer 3 as it does not come with > > the 1881 Census set but I have ordered it from her separately and will > > compare its behaviour when it arrives and let you know the results. > > > > Meanwhile perhaps other users may care to contribute? > > > > Gordon > > >

Sorry I have not contributed to this thread to date but I have been tied up with work. Viewer 2 is not really suitable for use with Windows XP and XP uses would be better suited using Viewer 4 which is available separately, Viewer 3 has been discontinued as a separate release. See the bottom of my page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/1881.htm for options. As to the speed concerns, there will be very little difference in loading times with virtually any modern Pentium (or equivalent) based machines the speed, size and fragmentation of the hard drive would have more effect on the loading times. Cheers Guy -- Wakefield England http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/framland/york.htm Yorkshire Pages, Photos, and transcripts with a Yorkshire flavour > I Think we would have to compare like with like Simon and I have version 2 > of the viewer though I only received the disk set new from LDS's order > department last week. I have been unable to find a download source for > Viewer 3 to try it and see if its behaviour mirrors yours more closely. I > have tried the census on two different computers just to see if it makes a > difference. Both have 512MB but one is a 1.4 Athlon and the other an 800 MHz > Pentium3. Very little difference in the timings and no difference in the > behaviour. I am running XP however and on both computers the system is not > on drive C:, on one it is on D: and the other on E:. and the CENSUS data is > not on the system disk in either case. I haven't had a chance to consider > the registry entries to see if they are optimum. LDS do not recommend > running either viewer on XP at the moment. > The lady at LDS is uncertain how you got Viewer 3 as it does not come with > the 1881 Census set but I have ordered it from her separately and will > compare its behaviour when it arrives and let you know the results. > > Meanwhile perhaps other users may care to contribute? > > Gordon >

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dnc in tennessee <dnc_tn@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3c66acdc.95892428@news... > PS How much time do you think it would take me to fully > transcribe the 1900 Hamilton County TN census? Try contacting the folks at USGenWeb Census Project -- http://www.us-census.org/ They have been working on census transcriptions for a few years now and can probably give you a good idea of transcription time as well as lots of tips. Tracey Morris

My father has always called me 'Prue', although my actual name is Lesley. I didn't think anything of it until a school friend asked why dad called me the wrong name!! So I can quite understand that in 50 years time any still living family members might tell their descendants that my name was Prue!! On another related issue, I have an ancestor who was ALWAYS Marion within her family. Every bit of documentation within the family has her so listed -even her marriage cert. However, her birth cert has her name as Mary Ann. I beleive this was an error on the registars end as Mary Ann was an extremely comon name at that time in UK. Lesley Australia LPurch6636 wrote: > I had an experience with the female first name "Amy" occurring in one Census > as "Emma." "Emma" could be the "proper" name and "Amy" the abbreviated name or > Emma could just be a name that was "mis-heard" by the Census taker. > > Flanagan

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, dnc in tennessee wrote: > www.familysearch.org ?? > > Where do I go on that web site to search the 1880 census > index? > > > PS How much time do you think it would take me to fully > transcribe the 1900 Hamilton County TN census? It really depends on two things. How many people are in the county and how readable is the census. Hamilton Co has a bunch of people. A census that was poorly reproduced or handwriting that is illegible can greatly increase the time and effort needed. --

On The Date Of Tue, 05 Feb 2002 20:52:46 -0800, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> Wrote The Followng: ->On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 04:12:00 GMT, dnc_tn@yahoo.com (dnc in tennessee) ->declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.misc: -> ->> www.familysearch.org ?? ->> ->> Where do I go on that web site to search the 1880 census ->> index? ->> -> I suspect you don't... The entire set (56 or so CDs, Index and ->transcription) only costs $50 OK, THNX

www.familysearch.org ?? Where do I go on that web site to search the 1880 census index? PS How much time do you think it would take me to fully transcribe the 1900 Hamilton County TN census? On The Date Of Tue, 05 Feb 2002 22:17:02 GMT, Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> Wrote The Followng: ->One I know of for the USA is the 1880 Federal Census published by the LDS ->Family History Center.

On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 16:59:56 -0500, dnc in tennessee wrote: > I am wanting to purchase transcribed census cd's [not images because > most are scanned out of focus and I cannot read them no matter how much > I zoom or what filter I use]. > > So, where do I buy transcribed census cd's? And, is their a kind soul > who already owns one who would be willing to do a few searches for me? > > Thanks, You won't find very many - it's a tremendous job few companies will undertake. There are census indexes, but with minimal data recorded and usually only heads-of-household listed. Check the Heritage Quest, Ancestry, and FamilyTreeMaker websites. One I know of for the USA is the 1880 Federal Census published by the LDS Family History Center.

I am wanting to purchase transcribed census cd's [not images because most are scanned out of focus and I cannot read them no matter how much I zoom or what filter I use]. So, where do I buy transcribed census cd's? And, is their a kind soul who already owns one who would be willing to do a few searches for me? Thanks,

I only got my LDS disks from the UK distribution centre last week too, so I am new to the software too, but soon got fed up with changing CDs and copied to the hard disk as per the instructions. I have tried it with the data in a variety of combinations... 1) Viewer and all data on the system drive C: 2) Viewer on C: and all data on drive D: 3) Viewer and Index data on C:, Census data on D: 4) Viewer and Census data on C:, Index data on D: There was no difference in the timing results - I am running Windows 2000 on a Athon 1Ghz with 512MB. My best guess is that Viewer 3 is doing it's "loading of data into memory" at different points than in Version 2. Perhaps it was an attempt to address the slow initial load time, at the expense of slow switching later? ****Like you say - can anyone else with the data loaded to their hard disk instead of CDs comment on their experiences?**** BTW, I got Viewer 3 free with the US Immigration Index (the feeling I picked up searching the newsgroups is that if you order the Immigration index you pay the same price as the Viewer 3 on it's own but it's included free). I'll try Viewer 2 and see what happens... Simon "gordon" <gordon.betts@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:sJT78.1906$ET2.389725@news11-gui.server.ntli.net... > > "Simon Torrington" <storri@btclick.com> wrote in message > news:a3n88a$s9d$1@helle.btinternet.com... > > Thanks for your reply Gordon - I tried to repeat most of your same > sequence > > and got the following results (your timings are in brackets)... > > I Think we would have to compare like with like Simon and I have version 2 > of the viewer though I only received the disk set new from LDS's order > department last week. I have been unable to find a download source for > Viewer 3 to try it and see if its behaviour mirrors yours more closely. I > have tried the census on two different computers just to see if it makes a > difference. Both have 512MB but one is a 1.4 Athlon and the other an 800 MHz > Pentium3. Very little difference in the timings and no difference in the > behaviour. I am running XP however and on both computers the system is not > on drive C:, on one it is on D: and the other on E:. and the CENSUS data is > not on the system disk in either case. I haven't had a chance to consider > the registry entries to see if they are optimum. LDS do not recommend > running either viewer on XP at the moment. > The lady at LDS is uncertain how you got Viewer 3 as it does not come with > the 1881 Census set but I have ordered it from her separately and will > compare its behaviour when it arrives and let you know the results. > > Meanwhile perhaps other users may care to contribute? > > Gordon > > > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 2 (112) seconds the > > first time the program is started but for me >20 seconds to cancel the > > search dialog and exit the program. (for you - 2 seconds if the program is > > exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's) > > Finding 17 records takes 1 (1 - 2) seconds > > Double click on name takes 1 (99) seconds > > going back to original list takes 45 (1) seconds > > Loading British Census from start takes 1 (1) second to East Anglia region > > ALWAYS for me (for you - only if the program is not being started for the > > first time when it takes a similar time to National Index) > > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 > > (1) second > > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 (1) second > > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 (1) second > > Clicking on National Index takes 1-2 (1) seconds to bring up search screen > > and all the A's B's > > Search on all areas for name again takes 1 (1-2) seconds for 17 names > > clicking on name 1 (1) sec > > Clicking on National Index 40 (1) seconds > > Clicking on back button takes (20) 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 > > British Census heading with no search screen > > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > > > My PC has 512MB RAM as well but a 1Ghz Athlon processor. > > BTW, are you using Viewer v3.02?? I'm so confused - ours seem to be > > operating very differently. > > I actually think I prefer your software's behaviour on balance!! > > > > > > "gordon" <gordon.betts@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > > news:7_k78.3970$BU3.928711@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > > > As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs > > and > > > they seem quite poor compared with yours. > > > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the > > first > > > time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and > > > restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's > > > Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds > > > Double click on name takes 99 seconds > > > going back to original list takes 1 second > > > Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region > but > > > only if the program is not being started for the first time when it > takes > > a > > > similar time to National Index > > > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in > 1 > > > second > > > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second > > > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second > > > Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and > all > > > the A's B's > > > Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names > > > clicking on name 1 sec > > > Clicking on National Index 1 second > > > Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 > > British > > > Census heading with no search screen > > > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > > > > > I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that > > getting > > > the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably > > because > > > there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory > > > exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it > will > > > make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk > bashing > > > taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. > > > To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at > > > moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders > > > > > > Hope these obsevations help > > > > > > Gordon Betts > > > "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message > > > news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > > > > Guy (or any other expert!) > > > > > > > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > > > > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > > > > **fairly** happy with the results. > > > > > > > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > > > > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > > > > second. That's all fantastic. > > > > > > > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > > > > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > > > > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > > > > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > > > > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > > > > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > > > > > > > Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the > > > > NETWORK option in Viewer? > > > > > > > > If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a > > > > quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? > > > > At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! > > > > > > > > FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and > > > > I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Simon

On Wed, 06 Feb 2002 04:12:00 GMT, dnc_tn@yahoo.com (dnc in tennessee) declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.misc: > www.familysearch.org ?? > > Where do I go on that web site to search the 1880 census > index? > I suspect you don't... The entire set (56 or so CDs, Index and transcription) only costs $50 -- > ============================================================== < > wlfraed@ix.netcom.com | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff < > ============================================================== < > Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/ < > Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/ <

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"Simon Torrington" <storri@btclick.com> wrote in message news:a3n88a$s9d$1@helle.btinternet.com... > Thanks for your reply Gordon - I tried to repeat most of your same sequence > and got the following results (your timings are in brackets)... I Think we would have to compare like with like Simon and I have version 2 of the viewer though I only received the disk set new from LDS's order department last week. I have been unable to find a download source for Viewer 3 to try it and see if its behaviour mirrors yours more closely. I have tried the census on two different computers just to see if it makes a difference. Both have 512MB but one is a 1.4 Athlon and the other an 800 MHz Pentium3. Very little difference in the timings and no difference in the behaviour. I am running XP however and on both computers the system is not on drive C:, on one it is on D: and the other on E:. and the CENSUS data is not on the system disk in either case. I haven't had a chance to consider the registry entries to see if they are optimum. LDS do not recommend running either viewer on XP at the moment. The lady at LDS is uncertain how you got Viewer 3 as it does not come with the 1881 Census set but I have ordered it from her separately and will compare its behaviour when it arrives and let you know the results. Meanwhile perhaps other users may care to contribute? Gordon > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 2 (112) seconds the > first time the program is started but for me >20 seconds to cancel the > search dialog and exit the program. (for you - 2 seconds if the program is > exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's) > Finding 17 records takes 1 (1 - 2) seconds > Double click on name takes 1 (99) seconds > going back to original list takes 45 (1) seconds > Loading British Census from start takes 1 (1) second to East Anglia region > ALWAYS for me (for you - only if the program is not being started for the > first time when it takes a similar time to National Index) > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 > (1) second > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 (1) second > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 (1) second > Clicking on National Index takes 1-2 (1) seconds to bring up search screen > and all the A's B's > Search on all areas for name again takes 1 (1-2) seconds for 17 names > clicking on name 1 (1) sec > Clicking on National Index 40 (1) seconds > Clicking on back button takes (20) 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 > British Census heading with no search screen > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > My PC has 512MB RAM as well but a 1Ghz Athlon processor. > BTW, are you using Viewer v3.02?? I'm so confused - ours seem to be > operating very differently. > I actually think I prefer your software's behaviour on balance!! > > > "gordon" <gordon.betts@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:7_k78.3970$BU3.928711@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > > As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs > and > > they seem quite poor compared with yours. > > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the > first > > time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and > > restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's > > Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds > > Double click on name takes 99 seconds > > going back to original list takes 1 second > > Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region but > > only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes > a > > similar time to National Index > > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 > > second > > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second > > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second > > Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and all > > the A's B's > > Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names > > clicking on name 1 sec > > Clicking on National Index 1 second > > Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 > British > > Census heading with no search screen > > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > > > I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that > getting > > the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably > because > > there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory > > exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it will > > make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk bashing > > taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. > > To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at > > moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders > > > > Hope these obsevations help > > > > Gordon Betts > > "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message > > news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > > > Guy (or any other expert!) > > > > > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > > > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > > > **fairly** happy with the results. > > > > > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > > > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > > > second. That's all fantastic. > > > > > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > > > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > > > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > > > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > > > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > > > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > > > > > Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the > > > NETWORK option in Viewer? > > > > > > If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a > > > quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? > > > At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! > > > > > > FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and > > > I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Simon > > > > > > guy.etchells@virgin.net (Guy Etchells) wrote in message > > news:<3C357430.1A80B741@virgin.net>... > > > > Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a > > > > few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partial 1881 Data > > > > > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if > > they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. > > This is possible and is > > > > > achieved simply by following the instructions but > > copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, > > however, limitations. > > > > > Firstly, if you install only a part of the > National > > Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the > > alphabetical sections installed. This > > > > > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install > > only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National > > Index to access the data for > > > > > this region. If you double-click on an index entry > > for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry > > Error message. This > > > > > appears benign and when cleared does not affect > > operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only > part > > of the data, the registry > > > > > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to > > view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term > > change if you > > > > > expect a period of intensive searching within a > > single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, > > > > North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number > of > > > > years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data > sets > > > > from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and > > > > for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the > > > > various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply > > > > have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set > > > > required. > > > > Cheers > > > > Guy > > > > -- > > > > Wakefield England > > > > > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > > > > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > > > > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > > > > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > > > > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, > Monumental > > > > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm > > > > Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm > > > > Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of > > > > St. James Churchyard, Wakefield > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm > > > > M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > > > > > > > > > > > > > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > Graham Walter > > > > > > > > > > >

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I see it very well in Canada. I'll now go and read it in detail. Alan C "Robert Hansen" <rlhansen@zianet.com> wrote in message news:3C5FF86F.63C0EE5B@zianet.com... > Sorry Linda, > I get nothing but a blank page.

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Thanks for your reply Gordon - I tried to repeat most of your same sequence and got the following results (your timings are in brackets)... Loading National Index search screen from start takes 2 (112) seconds the first time the program is started but for me >20 seconds to cancel the search dialog and exit the program. (for you - 2 seconds if the program is exited and restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's) Finding 17 records takes 1 (1 - 2) seconds Double click on name takes 1 (99) seconds going back to original list takes 45 (1) seconds Loading British Census from start takes 1 (1) second to East Anglia region ALWAYS for me (for you - only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a similar time to National Index) Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 (1) second Clicking on any name gives results in 1 (1) second Clicking on neighbors takes 1 (1) second Clicking on National Index takes 1-2 (1) seconds to bring up search screen and all the A's B's Search on all areas for name again takes 1 (1-2) seconds for 17 names clicking on name 1 (1) sec Clicking on National Index 40 (1) seconds Clicking on back button takes (20) 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British Census heading with no search screen Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly My PC has 512MB RAM as well but a 1Ghz Athlon processor. BTW, are you using Viewer v3.02?? I'm so confused - ours seem to be operating very differently. I actually think I prefer your software's behaviour on balance!! "gordon" <gordon.betts@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:7_k78.3970$BU3.928711@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com... > As a result of your observations I have checked my 1881 on disk timimgs and > they seem quite poor compared with yours. > Loading National Index search screen from start takes 112 seconds the first > time the program is started but 2 seconds if the program is exited and > restarted .but actually lists all the A's and B's > Finding 17 records takes 1 - 2 seconds > Double click on name takes 99 seconds > going back to original list takes 1 second > Loading British Census from start takes 1 second to East Anglia region but > only if the program is not being started for the first time when it takes a > similar time to National Index > Changing area to correct one and inputting search name gives results in 1 > second > Clicking on any name gives results in 1 second > Clicking on neighbors takes 1 second > Clicking on National Index takes 1second to bring up search screen and all > the A's B's > Search on all areas for name again takes 1-2 seconds for 17 names > clicking on name 1 sec > Clicking on National Index 1 second > Clicking on back button takes 1 sec per screen and ends up ata 1881 British > Census heading with no search screen > Clicking on binoculars brings up search screen instantly > > I am not sure what conclusions to make from all this. It seems that getting > the program started for the first time takes a long time presumably because > there is 10 GBytes of info to get its head around. Once it is in memory > exiting and restarting the program doesm not seem to remove it and it will > make itself ready in a few seconds.There is a fair amount of disk bashing > taking place during the 112 seconds mentioned above. > To help you compare your with mine I have only 512MB of main memory at > moment. Census\bi1881 11GB 73 files 2 folders > > Hope these obsevations help > > Gordon Betts > "Simple Simon" <storri@usa.net> wrote in message > news:b5d3d0ad.0202021148.6094dd5@posting.google.com... > > Guy (or any other expert!) > > > > I successfully followed the instructions on your website for > > installing the 1881 LDS Census onto my hard disk (thankyou!), and am > > **fairly** happy with the results. > > > > If I start with a search on the National Index, and then double click > > a name from the results, I get the Census detail in a fraction of a > > second. That's all fantastic. > > > > BUT - if I use the 'back' button on the Viewer toolbar, or click the > > National Index tab to try to get the results list back the software > > seems to 'hang' or 'freeze' temporarily. After about 20 seconds pause > > the National Index tab appears but with a blank screen, and after > > another 20 seconds or so the previous results list appears. > > I also get similar freezes when printing. > > > > Do you experience this issue?? Is it a consequence of using the > > NETWORK option in Viewer? > > > > If I'm stuck with this problem - thinking laterally - is there a > > quicker way to return to the start point of a National Index search?? > > At the moment I find it quicker to shut the Viewer down and re-run!! > > > > FWIW my PC is only a few months old, has plenty of resources free and > > I am computer literate (I am a PC programmer) but this has me baffled. > > > > Thanks, > > Simon > > > > guy.etchells@virgin.net (Guy Etchells) wrote in message > news:<3C357430.1A80B741@virgin.net>... > > > Yes that is a very useful informative article but be aware there are a > > > few inaccuracies in it the most glaring being > > > > > > > > > > Partial 1881 Data > > > > Some readers have asked whether it is possible, if > they have insufficient disk space, to install only part of the 1881 data. > This is possible and is > > > > achieved simply by following the instructions but > copying only those data files to which you require access. There are, > however, limitations. > > > > Firstly, if you install only a part of the National > Index, you will be limited to searching only for surnames in the > alphabetical sections installed. This > > > > is pretty self-evident! Secondly, if you install > only a single Regional data file you will only be able to use the National > Index to access the data for > > > > this region. If you double-click on an index entry > for a person in a different region, you will receive a Windows Registry > Error message. This > > > > appears benign and when cleared does not affect > operation. Possibly the greatest limitation is that if you install only part > of the data, the registry > > > > changes will prevent you from using the CD-ROMs to > view the rest of the data. Nevertheless, it may be a worthwhile short-term > change if you > > > > expect a period of intensive searching within a > single region (for example as part of a one-name study). > > > > > > > > > > Having had most of the various databases (1881, British Vital records, > > > North American VR etc. etc.) on my networked hard disks for a number of > > > years I can safely say it is possible to run the 1881 regional data sets > > > from the hard drive and the national index from cds and vice versa and > > > for instance run the entire 1881 census on the hard drive and the > > > various other compatible data sets British VR etc. from cd, you simply > > > have to add the CD drive letter into the data path for the data set > > > required. > > > Cheers > > > Guy > > > -- > > > Wakefield England > > > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells Transcripts, Parish > > > Records, Calendar, Scaleable Map of Uk. Link to LDS website, > > > Abbreviations, Returns of Owners of Lands etc. etc. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/dh/ Whitefield > > > Transcripts, Etch/ells Transcripts > > > http://gye.future.easyspace.com Worldwide Cemetery Links, Monumental > > > Inscriptions, War Graves, etc. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/CHURCH/church.htm > > > Churches & MIs. in the Wakefield Area > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/Ossett/obmi1.htm > > > Transcripts of 1st Baptist Burial ground, Ossett > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/tmi.htm Photos of > > > St. James Churchyard, Wakefield > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~framland/stcr/stjsc1.htm > > > M.Is. in St. John the Evangelist Churchyard, Staincross > > > > > > > > > > All I needed to do was search the web a bit more!! > > > > > > > > http://www.family-tree.co.uk/why-walk.htm > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > Graham Walter > > > > > >