Can someone help out and explain how one would interpret this paternity test? Is there ANYTHING that looks odd about this report? The lab that processed this report says it is correct. 2nd opinions say not so. Can anyone help? DNA - PCR Mother Child Father System 1. D13S317 (13Q22-31) 10, 12 10, 11 8, 12 2. D18S51 (18Q21.3) 12, 19 12, 18 15, 19 3. D21S11 (21) 29 29, 32.2 29, 31 4. D3S1358 (3p) 16, 17 16, 17 16, 17 5. D5S818 (5q21-31) 12, 13 12, 10 11, 13 6. D7S820 (7Q11.21-22) 9, 11 9, 8 9, 10 7. D8S1179 (8) 14, 12 14, 15 10, 14 8. FGA (4Q28) 23, 24 23, 24 21, 22 9. vWA (12p12-pter) 19, 17 19, 14 17, 19

Hi! After working on the statistics for this family genealogy for too many years, my editor/publisher says we will be all ready for the launch by the end of June. I hope it's o.k. to be excited. The ancestors of Jonathan and Elizabeth(Dean) Owen are the main characters of this research book. I hope to find out where I go on the web to advertise this research book. Anyone know? I'm going out East for the launching because that is where the editor/publisher's business is located. Rhoda rewicker@msn.com http://home.att.net/~rewicker

If you are interested in this item there are less than 2 days to buy it - it is in superb condition, and I assure any genealogy researcher would find this an extremely useful item, in addition to being very rarely available. Thanks Gof ( Please note that I am a private seller) "gof" <garmstrong1@freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:a6gjag$tu0$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk... > Hi there > > For all of you interested in genealogy I have a 4 volume set of the above > title for sale. > > Please follow the link below to bid for a 4 volume set of this 1972 reprint > unbound and uncut, in excellent condition. No water marking or damage to the > book at all. > > Jackets are supplied with all volumes. > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1523414357 > >

This is one of the best lists I've found. The first URL in the list will likely have what you want. http://www.genealogylinks.net/geneology/vitalrec/passengerlists.htm -- Steve Degnian Genealogy Naiveté Looking for :- Degnian Degnen Deignan Duignan Magarry, Shipway, Strandquist, Peres White In and around Maryborough, Queensland Australia. "Wilhelm Gragert" <wgragert@t-online.de> wrote in message news:a6i4rc$ghd$04$1@news.t-online.com... > Hello, > does anyone know if there are ship-lists for persons, who emigrated to the > USA via LeHavre? > Thank you in advance for any hint. > > Wilhelm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 9/02/2002

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, D. Stussy wrote: > With some of the trends I have seen, perhaps the U.S. Government does > have it correctly interpreted: "Freedom of religion" includes "freedom > FROM religion." In that respect, they (ANY group) doesn't have the > right to impose their views on another. Here, they are imposing their > views on the deceased WITHOUT regard for the descendant living. This should be obvious but apparently it is not. The dead do not have the rights of the living. Once you've gone to your reward, you can no longer vote, marry, adopt, be libeled, buy or sell property, etc. And you don't have to pay taxes! (Your heirs do.) The same is true for being able to control the use of your name. When you are living, you have certain privacy rights. These cease when you die. A proxy baptism of your name after death in no ways alters the religious facts of your life while you were living. -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- Webmaster: Cynthia Van Ness, MLS -- roots@bfn.org Roots: The Buffalo NY Genealogy Forum -- http://www.bfn.org/~roots With obits, vital records, city directories & hundreds of local links

>2. Where might I find indexes to other shipping lists not covered by the >Ellis Island site? Are they availabl There is a series of volumes and supplements by Filby that index many immigration/ship lists. You could find them at a good genealogy library. Clifford Sayre in Silver Spring, MD

"Alan Bloor" <alanbloor@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:zX6k8.59823$yc2.6487809@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... > Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes..... > > I have found a relative (my grandfather's cousin) who emigrated from England > to New York. He died in New York in December 1904, and his death certificate > says that he had lived there for 13 years. A journal written by his daughter > in her twilight years reveals that he crossed the Atlantic to visit his > family several times during those 13 years. I have looked on the Ellis > Island site and can only find his name listed twice. First in 1892 (which > may be his initial emigration if the death certificate is not quite > accurate) and again in early 1904, with his wife and daughter. According to > his daughter's journal, there were at least three other return journeys - > one about 1895 on which he met his future wife, one in Sep/Oct 1897 (just > his wife and baby daughter), and another about 1899. None of these journeys > appear on the Ellis Island site. So my questions are: > > 1. Is the Ellis Island site complete for the time period it covers, or are > other records waiting to be added? > > 2. Where might I find indexes to other shipping lists not covered by the > Ellis Island site? Are they available through the LDS and if so what is the > catalogue reference? You mean ship manifests not shipping lists. As far as Ellis Island, keep in mind that they are indexed from transcribers work and they mis-spelled many names and places, so you need to vary the spelling many ways! You can find information for other ports at: http://istg.rootsweb.com/ Robert Jerin

I'm trying to get in contact with Ken Croslin (who lives in Dallas Texas). I have some new family tree information for him but the only address I have for him (email) bounces the message. I'd appreciate any assistance in contacting him. Regards Kevin Ettery

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes..... I have found a relative (my grandfather's cousin) who emigrated from England to New York. He died in New York in December 1904, and his death certificate says that he had lived there for 13 years. A journal written by his daughter in her twilight years reveals that he crossed the Atlantic to visit his family several times during those 13 years. I have looked on the Ellis Island site and can only find his name listed twice. First in 1892 (which may be his initial emigration if the death certificate is not quite accurate) and again in early 1904, with his wife and daughter. According to his daughter's journal, there were at least three other return journeys - one about 1895 on which he met his future wife, one in Sep/Oct 1897 (just his wife and baby daughter), and another about 1899. None of these journeys appear on the Ellis Island site. So my questions are: 1. Is the Ellis Island site complete for the time period it covers, or are other records waiting to be added? 2. Where might I find indexes to other shipping lists not covered by the Ellis Island site? Are they available through the LDS and if so what is the catalogue reference? Alan Bloor (Leicester, UK)

The only problem with that is that the 1900 census hasn't been indexed as yet, but I will gladly try to find the information for you. Edith "David Cornell" <djcmgf@optonline.net> wrote in message news:3C8EDC82.9A2C08E5@optonline.net... > I have searched the 1900 US Census and 1900 Soundex for my grandmother's > family several times now without much success, even though I know pretty > much where they lived at the time. Part of the problem is that both my > grandmother's parents died before 1900 (although my mother and uncles > didn't mention that fact until I had searched for them). I know have > more information about what to look for, so if anyone who has an > Ancestry census subscription and is willing to look for me, I would be > very grateful. > > The person I am looking for is: > > Charles Collins, born May 1880 in Ireland, living in Buffalo, NY, in the > first ward (probably at 90 Elk Street). Living with him should have > been his younger sisters: Mary, Jennie, Nellie, and Maggie (my > grandmother). > > I'd also be interested in whoever was living at 90 Elk Street, Buffalo, > NY, even if Charles Collins was not living there. > > I have also been searching for some time for a William J. Keller (born > about 1872) and his wife Carrie/Caroline (born 1874) and possibly an > infant daughter. They also lived in Buffalo, NY, probably in the Black > Rock area. > > I would greatly appreciate any help that I receive on this. > > David Cornell

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Richard VanHouten wrote: > It might help if you told us where this Stockport is. There are at > least three in the United States. There is only one which is closely associated with Hat Making; The original, near Manchester, UK

On 13 Mar 2002 in soc.genealogy.misc, Steinar wrote: > I got hold of an old "Kodak fiche reader 321" but there is a part > missing and without a partlist I am unable to figure out what is > missing, can anybody help?? I did a Google search for "Kodak fiche reader 321"; the first result was http://www.goingspare.co.uk/ - "With manufacturers withdrawing support and spares for older microfilm equipment, it is important that there is ONE place to go to find new and used spares. This is where the goingspare.co.uk website can help." -- Joe Makowiec can be reached at: makowiec(at)nycap(dot)rr(dot)com

At 12:58 AM 3/13/2002 -0800, steinar@robin.no (Steinar) wrote: >I got hold of an old "Kodak fiche reader 321" but there is a part missing and without a partlist I am unable to figure out what is missing, can anybody help??... I suggest you try calling or writing Kodak. They still support some of their ancient readers to the extent *practical* (this contact information is about two years old, but I think it is still current): Eastman Kodak Parts/Service 800 Lee Rd Rochester NY 14650 (716)724-7278 Rollie

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I have searched the 1900 US Census and 1900 Soundex for my grandmother's family several times now without much success, even though I know pretty much where they lived at the time. Part of the problem is that both my grandmother's parents died before 1900 (although my mother and uncles didn't mention that fact until I had searched for them). I know have more information about what to look for, so if anyone who has an Ancestry census subscription and is willing to look for me, I would be very grateful. The person I am looking for is: Charles Collins, born May 1880 in Ireland, living in Buffalo, NY, in the first ward (probably at 90 Elk Street). Living with him should have been his younger sisters: Mary, Jennie, Nellie, and Maggie (my grandmother). I'd also be interested in whoever was living at 90 Elk Street, Buffalo, NY, even if Charles Collins was not living there. I have also been searching for some time for a William J. Keller (born about 1872) and his wife Carrie/Caroline (born 1874) and possibly an infant daughter. They also lived in Buffalo, NY, probably in the Black Rock area. I would greatly appreciate any help that I receive on this. David Cornell

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Good morning Cloy, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cloy Tobola" <cloy@tobola.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:23 PM > John, > > At first glance, your suggestion seems correct; however, deeper > analysis reveals that ONLY consulting www.lds.org [to understand > Mormon beliefs] isn't necessarily the best idea. Here are a couple > reasons why: > If I intimated or said ONLY, then I would agree. I chose the word "authoritatively" because so much of what has been posted in this forum has not been authenticated. > 1. The Mormon belief system relies heavily on temple ceremonies. These > are not only closed to the public, but are generally revealed only to > a select few within the church. Ergo, not all of these will be on the > site. > As the statement reads, I can agree to it. It appears however, that many outside the church know what is happening. > 2. It's generally considered bad form in journalism to publish a news > story that only relies on only one source -- multiple sources ensure a > more thorough and balanced treatment. The same is true here. Listening > to Mormon and non-Mormon sources -- and possibly even the anti-Mormon > rhetoric -- seems the best way to develop an informed opinion. > If you are comparing this genealogy forum to journalism, then I have to take exception. If the rhetoric is opinion based on unsubstantiated hearsay, then it's value is nothing more than chatter. We are taught as we research to authenticate, authenticate, authenticate. I see many postings in this forum ignoring that standard. Permit me to illustrate. A short time ago a new thread was begun with this statement. I think you were the author. "Although the following items are from an old thread, I just came across it and some clarifications are in order. I'd also like to continue this discussion, as I think it's imporant. The thread began discussing the fact that the French government was [supposedly] limiting access to some records because they objected to Mormon church's practice of performing a baptism ceremony on behalf of people (including non-Mormons) after they had died. ...." In searching for the authenticity of that statement the only reference that I could find about the French government's objection to the Mormon church is an article by David Jacobson entitled "The Mormon Conquest" in the Correspondence, Published by the Council on Foreign Relations. The reader will note that this article, whether one agrees with it or not, sheds a whole different light on the reason for the French government's displeasure with the Mormon Church. ".. Yet, paradoxically, Raulff reports, this nineteenth-century Mormon preoccupation with genealogy and the saving of forebears, combined with twenty-first century technology, has led to a head-on collision with the French government, wary of the possible uses of Internet genealogy data for genetic screening. For, long ago-in the dark, pre-Internet days of 1987- the French, along with other, notably East European, governments, granted the Mormon Church photocopying rights to all personal certificates of births, marriages, and deaths from its départements in exchange for two filmed copies of each document -a cost-effective way to preserve documents, but also a contractual agreement the French Ministry of Culture considers violated now by Internet publication of the data. Beyond their reservations about letting Mormon missionaries forage among the names of dead Frenchmen unlikely to be their ancestors, French protectionists are concerned that access is given not only to the researchers based in Utah but to anyone anywhere opening files for completely unspecified purposes. The would-be protectionists warn that this pool of civil data can soon be used to supply medical-history banks for actuarial analysis: pathological "family romances" that will compromise individuals' health profiles. .." > 3. As an evangelism tool, the Mormon website necessarily focuses on > building "common ground" with it's audience. The cosmology presented > on the web site is fairly general and consistent may other belief > systems; however, there are many beliefs that unique to the LDS church > that are never presented there. Some of these are very far removed > from mainstream American protestant beliefs: the average Methodist > would likely find these surprising and possibly even objectionable. > I can go along with that statement. > Hope that helps. > Likewise > Excelsior! -Cloy > for now, A. John Birkholz brotherjohn@imt.net 963 McIver Road Great Falls, MT 59404 > brotherjohn@imt.net (brotherjohn) wrote in message news:<001701c1c8a7$949a0520$a9c7a1d8@ibm>... > > Good grief folks, > > > > Why all the chatter* about what Mormons believe? > > The have a website at URL www.lds.org > > that tells authoritatively what they believe. > > > > *chatter ... vi. ... 2. to talk fast, incessantly, and foolishly. > > Webster's New World Dictionary of American English, > > Third College Edition, 1988-Simon & Schuster >

From: "gof" <garmstrong1@freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Robert Surtees History and Antiquities of the county Palatine of Durham Date: 10 March 2002 17:57 Please follow the link below to bid for a 4 volume set of this 1972 reprint unbound and uncut, in excellent condition. No water marking or damage to the book at all. Jackets are supplied with all volumes. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1523414357