sssss@noaddress.com (Sara) wrote in news:3ca9e535.224223213@news.cybercomm.net: > Hi Eric, > > I am not an expert but I've used Legacy for a while. On your > sourcing question, I'd definitely create a new source for each > baptismal certificate you have, i.e. one source for John Jones' > certificate, one source for Mary Smith's certificate, etc. You may > be getting some information on these certificates about people > other than the child being baptized . For example, Mary Smith's > certificate may say that her godmother is also her aunt who lives > in Ohio, and the piece of info about the aunt's location would > belong in the aunt's entry. In a few years you may wonder where > you got that information. It's going to be easier to locate that > piece of paper if you source each certificate individually. I > haven't worked with baptismal certificates, but I'm basing my > answer on what I've found with marriage licence applications, > obituaries and the like - you get a wealth of data about different > people from those sources. The more you get into genealogy, the > messier your files become, so assume you will have problems finding > stuff and plan ahead ;-) That's a good point - I guess I'll have to create new sources for each source I have! > > On the pictures question - are you going to scan all those > documents and add them as pictures? I wish I had your ambition! > Mine are just sitting in 3-ring binders (in archival quality > plastic protectors). Seems to me that would take up a heck of a lot > of room ... then again, you could save them as JPEGs, and storage > is pretty cheap these days. If you are going that route, I would > add the scanned image to the source instead of to the individual > for the same reason metioned above - you may be able to use the > same source for several individuals. Yes, I was planning on scanning all the documents, pictures, etc., I get. I don't get to do my family history research all that often (work/family/work/life/work get in the way of doing research - wish I could spend at least 5 hours a day researching, but no), so I don't get piles of stuff at one time - maybe a page or two, here or there. Pretty managable, so far. Yes, I'm saving them as jpegs, and storing them on my computer (with occasional backups, of course!), so I can print out little booklets for certain people, with pictures, certificates, etc. attached. BTW - I will be keeping the originals, too, in files. > Thanks, Sara! -- Smile!! Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA Polish names: BABULA, GUNIA, LAZAR, MISIALEK

"C'est Moi" <sherdh@excite.com> wrote in news:Xns91E48F5F977CCTansyRagwortNetscape@209.142.136.250: > Eric, > > Have you looked at the Legacy website's examples for source > citations? (They do need to be revamped a bit since the citation > forms have been changed since they were created, but will give you > a good idea for sourcing!) > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsSourceSamples.asp I've printed > out the pages and refer to them all the time! > > Also, the sample file in Legacy 4 is excellent for seeing how > events and source citations can be handled. Take a good look at > that. It's *very* detailed and much better than the Kennedy sample > file in the past versions. > > Also, while you're on the Legacy website, you might want to check > out the Legacy User Group mailing list and subscribe to that - > there's a lot of good help & ideas being tossed around on the list! > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/legacylists.asp > > Enjoy! You've got a top notch program! > > Sherry > Thanks for the help, Sherry! You're great! The stuff on the website, with the screen shots really helps. I'll have to check out the sample file, too! Actually, I did join the Legacy User Group mailing list for a little while. But, I was just getting too many emails - that's one active list!!! So, I had to unsubscribe, unfortunately - don't have time to read over 100 emails a day. I know this is a wonderful program! I tested about 20 different Gen programs, before settling with Legacy as my primary one. I was using the 3.0 free version, but now that 4.0 came out, it seemed that there were enough extra gadgets that I wanted, so I decided to pay the little amount to have the Deluxe version with the book, too! Thanks again for the help! -- Smile!! Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA Polish names: BABULA, GUNIA, LAZAR, MISIALEK

My grandmother, Maude Hollis, attended public school in Yale, OK Terr. I have her school photo from about 1906-07. Looking at the different sizes of the children, this may be an "entire school" picture. The teachers (or some other adults) are in the photo, also. So, if anyone has an ancestor who attended or taught at a school in Yale around 1906-7, I'd be glad to email them a copy of this picture. Email me if you have a pertinent ancestor. I don't often read this newsgroup. :-) acp

The world's oldest genealogy site is not what you think. Read on. Forgive the sound of a self-tooting horn, but I gotta take a moment to proudly announce that as of today, my website "Roots: The Buffalo NY Genealogy Forum," has officially passed the 100,000 visitor mark. (I know, the venerable Cyndi's List gets that many hits every 20 minutes or so, but still...) Roots was launched in December 1993, making it very likely that Buffalo, New York, has the first and oldest genealogy website in the world.* I inherited Roots in late 1995 from its founder, who had lost interest in it, but I didn't install a counter until late 1997. So I have no idea how much traffic it got in its first four years. ----> To have a look, see: ----> http://www.bfn.org/~roots Thanks go to Buffalo Freenet, a pioneering community information network, for hosting Roots free of charge for nine years. Buffalo Freenet, a largely volunteer-run outfit, continues to make free webspace available for nonprofit organizations in Western New York State. To learn more, visit http://www.bfn.org. *Note: As many of you know, Rootsweb bills itself as the world's oldest genealogy site, but it did not go online with a homepage until early 1994, according to my correspondence with one of its founders. Prior to 1994, it existed only as a mailing list. You be the judge. -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- Webmaster: Cynthia Van Ness, MLS -- roots@bfn.org Roots: The Buffalo NY Genealogy Forum -- http://www.bfn.org/~roots With obits, vital records, city directories & hundreds of local links

A friend just emailed me the following. As one of the "patient" TMG users, I know not what to say. Do you think WG is ever going to be successful in developing TMG 5.0/32 Bit? The delay beyond his original projection is fast reaching not just arithmetic but algebraic proportions. His latest projection in January 2002 (already a couple of years behind) that he was within about a month of being ready to release it (or doing final beta testing, or prepare it in final form for shipment, or whatever, or whatever his loyal apologists argue), makes me wonder seriously if he has not run up against the same scenario that Genealogy.com did with UFT, with risk that WG will fail too. His user base, at least the ones that put messages on the TMG Board, remain mostly fiercely loyal and seem willing to wait indefinitely for the new version. He must be independently wealthy, or must have a very patient and wealthy sugar daddy, for him to be able to continue to pay salaries and fringe benefits for his staff, when there must not be much cash inflow to him. A message by him on the TMG Board a few weeks ago hinted very clearly that he has aspirations of converting into the big business mode of operation, implying to me that we cannot necessarily assume that loyalty as a genealogist will continue to guide his business enterprise under his personal control. Even Howard Nurse ultimately bailed out, presumably for strictly business reasons. We have already seen what can happen to a good genealogy program (UFT) when it is taken over by a large business company and strictly business becomes the guiding force.

think it is necessary I should alert you to the possible danger of undertaking research on behalf of the following individual who operates through a post office box number and who does not respect payment of fees due: TIM HUGHES, P.O. BOX 401, TWICKENHAM TW1 4FE, ENGLAND. Caution is advised!

Eric, Have you looked at the Legacy website's examples for source citations? (They do need to be revamped a bit since the citation forms have been changed since they were created, but will give you a good idea for sourcing!) http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsSourceSamples.asp I've printed out the pages and refer to them all the time! Also, the sample file in Legacy 4 is excellent for seeing how events and source citations can be handled. Take a good look at that. It's *very* detailed and much better than the Kennedy sample file in the past versions. Also, while you're on the Legacy website, you might want to check out the Legacy User Group mailing list and subscribe to that - there's a lot of good help & ideas being tossed around on the list! http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/legacylists.asp Enjoy! You've got a top notch program! Sherry Eric Babula <ebabula@care2.com> wrote in news:Xns91E450355213Aebabulacare2com@207.250.5.9: > <snip> > For instance, in the Individual's Information, there's a line for > "Chr.", but under Events, you can add "Baptism". Which one to use, > both? If I use "Chr.", do I enter church and > city/county/state/country in the "in" line? Also, if I add > "Baptism" as an event, do you add the church name under > "Description", and the City, County, State, Country in the "Place" > line? > > Not the only questions I have. What about Sourcing? Let's say I > have a Master Source called "Baptismal Certificate". Can I use that > same Master Source for many different people? When I add pictures, > do I add a pic of each Baptismal Certificate under that particular > source? Or, do I add the pic of each individual's Baptismal > Certificate to that individual? What then, happens to the picture > category under "Baptismal Certificate" event? > > Would someone be able to email me a Legacy file of just a few > people, so I could see the proper way to enter information? I'm > using Legacy 4.0 Deluxe (just got it last week). I know, there's no > perfect way to enter all this, but I'm sure there are better ways > than what I'm doing. I'd just like to get ideas.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 00:11:51 GMT, "Richard Cleaveland" <Dick@DELETETHISrgcle.com.com> declaimed the following in alt.genealogy: > ultimately bailed out, presumably for strictly business reasons. We have > already seen what can happen to a good genealogy program (UFT) when it is > taken over by a large business company and strictly business becomes the > guiding force. One problem with the UFT transfer is that, at the time it was discontinued, the same company owned FTM... I suspect the profit margin was a lot higher on FTM (even when UFT was available, most stores seemed to be loaded with two or three packages of FTM and two or three of Generations FT -- one was lucky to find UFT at all). With all the copies of FTM out there, and so many upgrades costing nearly as much as buying a new copy (based upon messages I've read in this group), combined with the relative difficulty of UFT (and TMG -- both seemed to be fighting for top spot in power/ complexity/ capability) the choice seems to have been made for "cheap/easily maintained -- with good profit margin" over "detailed/powerful/slightly more costly -- lower profit margin and needs /good/ programmers to understand". I don't think TMG falls into this category. There is no choice between products. For some reason WhollyGenes has the feeling of being a "one-man" company (though it may have a ways to go to match SoftLogik's PageStream program <G>). -- > ============================================================== < > wlfraed@ix.netcom.com | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG < > wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff < > ============================================================== < > Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/ < > Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/ <

On 02 Apr 2002 13:49:37 GMT, Eric Babula <ebabula@care2.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I sent this out to soc.genealogy.computing, yesterday, but it appears >that it didn't go through. Re-sending today (sorry if it's a repeat >post), and adding a couple othe NGs: > > >I'm having a little trouble figuring out what information to put where, >in Legacy. I haven't been doing a good job of entering things in the >proper places, I'm afraid, and I want to clean it up before it gets too >late. > >For instance, in the Individual's Information, there's a line for >"Chr.", but under Events, you can add "Baptism". Which one to use, >both? If I use "Chr.", do I enter church and city/county/state/country >in the "in" line? Also, if I add "Baptism" as an event, do you add the >church name under "Description", and the City, County, State, Country in >the "Place" line? > >Not the only questions I have. What about Sourcing? Let's say I have a >Master Source called "Baptismal Certificate". Can I use that same >Master Source for many different people? When I add pictures, do I add >a pic of each Baptismal Certificate under that particular source? Or, >do I add the pic of each individual's Baptismal Certificate to that >individual? What then, happens to the picture category under "Baptismal >Certificate" event? > >Would someone be able to email me a Legacy file of just a few people, so >I could see the proper way to enter information? I'm using Legacy 4.0 >Deluxe (just got it last week). I know, there's no perfect way to enter >all this, but I'm sure there are better ways than what I'm doing. I'd >just like to get ideas. > >TIA, > >-- >Smile!! > >Eric Babula >Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA > >Polish names: BABULA, GUNIA, LAZAR, MISIALEK Hi Eric, I am not an expert but I've used Legacy for a while. On your sourcing question, I'd definitely create a new source for each baptismal certificate you have, i.e. one source for John Jones' certificate, one source for Mary Smith's certificate, etc. You may be getting some information on these certificates about people other than the child being baptized . For example, Mary Smith's certificate may say that her godmother is also her aunt who lives in Ohio, and the piece of info about the aunt's location would belong in the aunt's entry. In a few years you may wonder where you got that information. It's going to be easier to locate that piece of paper if you source each certificate individually. I haven't worked with baptismal certificates, but I'm basing my answer on what I've found with marriage licence applications, obituaries and the like - you get a wealth of data about different people from those sources. The more you get into genealogy, the messier your files become, so assume you will have problems finding stuff and plan ahead ;-) On the pictures question - are you going to scan all those documents and add them as pictures? I wish I had your ambition! Mine are just sitting in 3-ring binders (in archival quality plastic protectors). Seems to me that would take up a heck of a lot of room ... then again, you could save them as JPEGs, and storage is pretty cheap these days. If you are going that route, I would add the scanned image to the source instead of to the individual for the same reason metioned above - you may be able to use the same source for several individuals. Hope this helps ... Sara

Hello, I sent this out to soc.genealogy.computing, yesterday, but it appears that it didn't go through. Re-sending today (sorry if it's a repeat post), and adding a couple othe NGs: I'm having a little trouble figuring out what information to put where, in Legacy. I haven't been doing a good job of entering things in the proper places, I'm afraid, and I want to clean it up before it gets too late. For instance, in the Individual's Information, there's a line for "Chr.", but under Events, you can add "Baptism". Which one to use, both? If I use "Chr.", do I enter church and city/county/state/country in the "in" line? Also, if I add "Baptism" as an event, do you add the church name under "Description", and the City, County, State, Country in the "Place" line? Not the only questions I have. What about Sourcing? Let's say I have a Master Source called "Baptismal Certificate". Can I use that same Master Source for many different people? When I add pictures, do I add a pic of each Baptismal Certificate under that particular source? Or, do I add the pic of each individual's Baptismal Certificate to that individual? What then, happens to the picture category under "Baptismal Certificate" event? Would someone be able to email me a Legacy file of just a few people, so I could see the proper way to enter information? I'm using Legacy 4.0 Deluxe (just got it last week). I know, there's no perfect way to enter all this, but I'm sure there are better ways than what I'm doing. I'd just like to get ideas. TIA, -- Smile!! Eric Babula Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA Polish names: BABULA, GUNIA, LAZAR, MISIALEK

I was asked for some URLs on Dye, Dey, Duytz. http://www.uh.edu/~jbutler/gean/dyes.html Dr. Butler died last year so do not email him. There are links to many other Dye pages from his page. Tom Robertshaw has the most data on the Dey side of the family. See Dye References - Tom's pages. http://listserv.uh.edu/archives/thedyesociety.html The top three bullets are the most important. * Search the archives - open to all - after the list are the summaries. * Post to the list - wait - you need to go to line 3, join, respond, then post! * Join the list - highly recommended. After joining - POST - introduce yourself, list what you have, and ask your questions. Dye-l-request@rootsweb.com to join the DYE list which includes DEY searchers. http://www.buckeyenet.net/users/jdye/index.htm this is one I put up that is mostly DYE data and includes some other DYE immigrants for those who do not trace back to the Duytz, Dey, Dye families discussed John Butler's pages listed above and the links to other Dye Dey searchers for John's pages. This should be enough to get started. Jayne

when you get a gov app for post master would you apply or how would that happen also when did tetephones come into south small town BBarkes barkesms@webtv.net

I recently found a Family Portrait Photo of what I believe is part of the Japanses Royal Family or if not royality a High echelon member of the Japanese Military. This photo was found with a group of photos taken between 1944 & 1946 by a US Navy crewman stationed aboard the USS Romulus RL 22.any clue as to who they are is appreciated it can be viewed at http://www.deadfred.com/photos/15544.jpg ( closeup ) and http://www.deadfred.com/photos/15545.jpg Joe Bott Dead Fred's Genealogy Photo Archive http://www.deadfred.com

richard wrote: > I found the listing in the SSDeath Index of my uncle, long estranged from > the family. He died in Pontiac, MI, four years ago. How do I obtain a > death certificate? > Richard There are two ways: 1. Through Oakland County Clerks office, at: http://www.sos.state.mi.us/history/archive/county/oakland.html 2. Or through the Michigan Departmen of health at: http://vitalrec.com/mi.html They have a form to fill out and mail in. Either way it is going to cost about the same. Scott

Dexter: Check with the Beardsley Memorial Library in Winsted, CT. Tel: 1-860-379-6043. I had to do some research there, and found that their City directories contained both Winsted and Torrington names. They have a Genealogy Department there, so the librarians can give you information as to how you should proceed. Good luck. Bill Elliott in MA "Dexter Kenfield" <dekester@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:ga9fau0m5vfo7h940r7e12jl8klvvsa9ji@4ax.com... > Does anyone know if there are city directories for Torrington, > Connecticut from 1902 to 1918? > > And if so, where I can access them? > > I'm trying to find the family of Elias LEVINE. They supposedly > arrived thorugh Ellis Island in 1902, went to Torrington, and returned > to New York City in 1918. I've located them there, but not in > Torrington. > > Wouldn't you know, the LDS catalog has Torrington directories prior to > 1902 and after 1930, but nothing in between. > > Many thanks for any information or suggestions.

Good evening, I have updated my names on my website. I have a filter set at 1900 so many born & still alive will only show their initials and sex with family name. URL below my name. bill -- William Harry Knox Davidson Toronto, Ontario, Canada www.williamdavidson.com

"Singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:3CA876D7.A534F594@erols.com... > Lesley Robertson wrote: > > > > "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > news:uJJp8.9047$SG2.1179136@news1.news.adelphia.net... > > > > > > "Barbara Hardin Barkes" <barkesms@webtv.net> wrote in message > > > news:4359-3CA751E3-4260@storefull-2196.public.lawson.webtv.net... > > > > i you were postmaster in 1870s would post office ve records > > > > > > > > > > ?????????? What are you trying to say or ask? > > > > > And please specify the country involved. The answer is different for each > > one! > > Lesley Robertson > > Come on, Lesley. If you or I were a postmaster in the 1870s, it > wouldn't matter what country! Guiness (sp?) Book of World > Records would show us. After all, one had to be 21 to get a > government appointment of that sort, and this IS 2002 ...? > True, but is I apply my skills finely developed while marking 1st year undergrad reports to interpret the message, I have an idea that the question is where to find records about postmasters. Mine would be in Edinburgh..... Funnily enough I've just been typing up the details of 19th century Postmasters for my Whitsome research. It was a family thing - on the brother's death, the sister took it over. Lesley Robertson

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Lesley Robertson wrote: > > "Singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:3CA876D7.A534F594@erols.com... > > Lesley Robertson wrote: > > > > > > "Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> wrote in message > > > news:uJJp8.9047$SG2.1179136@news1.news.adelphia.net... > > > > > > > > "Barbara Hardin Barkes" <barkesms@webtv.net> wrote in message > > > > news:4359-3CA751E3-4260@storefull-2196.public.lawson.webtv.net... > > > > > i you were postmaster in 1870s would post office ve records > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?????????? What are you trying to say or ask? > > > > > > > And please specify the country involved. The answer is different for > each > > > one! > > > Lesley Robertson > > > > Come on, Lesley. If you or I were a postmaster in the 1870s, it > > wouldn't matter what country! Guiness (sp?) Book of World > > Records would show us. After all, one had to be 21 to get a > > government appointment of that sort, and this IS 2002 ...? > > > True, but is I apply my skills finely developed while marking 1st year > undergrad reports to interpret the message, I have an idea that the question > is where to find records about postmasters. Mine would be in Edinburgh..... > Funnily enough I've just been typing up the details of 19th century > Postmasters for my Whitsome research. It was a family thing - on the > brother's death, the sister took it over. > Lesley Robertson (G) Well, then, no wonder you sussed it out, with all that valuable training. (g) My grandfather's aunt was assistant postmistress in a small town in the US in the 1920s or 30s (one day I really MUST look that up!) and his father was PM at a tinier town for decades. Cheryl

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:32:41 +0200, "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote: > >"Robert Jerin" <rjerin@adelphia.net> wrote in message >news:uJJp8.9047$SG2.1179136@news1.news.adelphia.net... >> >> "Barbara Hardin Barkes" <barkesms@webtv.net> wrote in message >> news:4359-3CA751E3-4260@storefull-2196.public.lawson.webtv.net... >> > i you were postmaster in 1870s would post office ve records >> > I think the person is asking 'If you were a postmaster in the 1870's, would the post office have records' Employment records I guess. The Cranky Genee >> >> ?????????? What are you trying to say or ask? >> >And please specify the country involved. The answer is different for each >one! >Lesley Robertson > > >