Hello, I'm looking for Waut(h)ier family members in the USA, en Canada. I've been told that a certain Wautier (who, when, ???) emigrated to the US, coming from the region of Moerbeke / Eksaarde or Exaerde / Wachtebeke, in Eastern-Flanders (Belgium). Does anybody recognize these places in relation to the surname Waut(h)ier? Thanks. Kris. kristel.wautier@rug.ac.be kristel.wautier@skynet.be

Ellis Is records list Wauthier, 6 from Belgium and 6 from France, 3 records for Wautier France and England, 3 records for Wautier-Sourfran/Landrin from Belgium, 1 ....autier France and 1 Waudier US citizen. http://www.ellisislandrecords.org Robert Jerin "Kristel Wautier" <Kristel.Wautier@rug.ac.be> wrote in message news:a9ov1a$83l$1@inf6serv.rug.ac.be... > Hello, > > I'm looking for Waut(h)ier family members in the USA, en Canada. I've been > told that a certain Wautier (who, when, ???) emigrated to the US, coming > from the region of Moerbeke / Eksaarde or Exaerde / Wachtebeke, in > Eastern-Flanders (Belgium). Does anybody recognize these places in relation > to the surname Waut(h)ier? > > Thanks. > > Kris. > kristel.wautier@rug.ac.be > kristel.wautier@skynet.be > > >

"Rob Stieglitz" <rstieglitz@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<8kqs8.5941$7K.1186075847@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>... > Does anyone know what year the law required marriage registration with the > city? I have a marriage record from the church but would like more > information that a city marriage certificate would supply. The couple > married in the year 1907 in what is now the Bronx. Would the New York > Municipal Archives have this certificate? > > Rob Hi Rob, Yes, if the marriage was recorded, it does fall into the time frame of what is in their holdings. If you don't already have a certificate number, they have to first search the index in order to find it. What I have found several times is that misspellings occur in the index, even if the record has the name spelled correctly. The clerks there are very helpful but also very busy so the just don't have time to search for every possible spelling. There are other reasons why they may not have found it - it may have been missed and never indexed, although the record exists. This would require a time-consuming search through the films, record by record, looking for the date you have. You need an exact date (obviously) to do this. You may want to ask someone to do a Look-up for you, by posting a message at ROOTS-L, a Lookup mailing list, or NYC mailing list, etc. I would offer, but I've got an extensive list of lookups to do right now, and have no idea when I'll be at the Archives next, so I can't at this time. FYI... Here is a listing of Vital Records in the Municpal Archives holdings: (from http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doris/html/3vital.html) Birth, death and marriage records are filed and indexed according to the locality (Borough) in which the event occurred: MANHATTAN Births * July 1847-1848; * July 1853-1909 Deaths * 1795; * 1802-1804; * 1808; * 1812-1948 Marriages * June 1847-1848; * July 1853-1929 BROOKLYN Births * 1866-1909 Deaths * 1847-1853; * 1857-1948 Marriages * 1866-1929 There are separate marriage and death records for Kings County Towns: * Flatbush, 1847-1851; 1880-1894, * Flatlands, 1880-1895, * Gravesend, 1880-1894, * New Lots, 1881-1886 and New Utrecht, 1880-1894. BRONX Births * 1898-1909 Deaths * 1898-1948 Marriages * 1898-1929 The Bronx did not exist as separate Borough until 1898. New York City (Manhattan) annexed the area west of the Bronx River in 1874 and annexed the area east of the Bronx River in 1895. For vital records in those areas after the date of annexation through 1897, request a search of Manhattan records. QUEENS Births * 1898-1909 Deaths * 1898-1948 Marriages * 1898-1929 Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records, 1847-1849; 1881-1897, and Long Island City, 1871-1897. RICHMOND Births * 1898-1909 Deaths * 1898-1948 Marriages * 1898-1929 Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records, 1847-1849; 1881 - 1897. Hope this is helpful! Diane I.

On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:02:13 GMT, Roots Webmaster <roots@bfn.org> wrote: >On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Jayne W. Dye wrote: > >> My husband, an architect, who taught architectural history in his younger >> days, says, "Yes" "The styles of those buildings indicates they were built >> prior to the dates of occupancy you gave." > >I'd like to see the buildings which were erected *after* people lived in >them. ;) How about buildings erected at the same address as previous buildings that his ancestors lived in? They just might be the ones that would be photographed now, don't you think?

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Hi! The NYC Municipal Archives keeps what is known as "Tax Photos" - every building in the city (all 5 boroughs) was photgraphed in 1930-1931. Of course, some really old buildings had been torn down by then, but many are indeed in the films. The Archives are located at 31 Chambers Street, right across from City Hall. If you are in teh city, go in person and ask how to search teh films - it's very tricky because you have to look up the address on a map and get the block and lot numbers in order to find the right microfilm. I think they charge $25 for an 8x10" copy on photo paper. Go to: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doris/html/index.html#TaxPhotos Diane I. Dexter Kenfield wrote: > > Are there any architectural history buffs out there??? > > I've traced a couple of families to specific addresses in New York > City early this century, and photographed the buildings now standing > there. > > I suspect each of these buildings pre-dates the families' residence -- > meaning that these are the actual buildings they lived in. (Things > change so fast in NYC that you can never assume this.) > > I'm hoping SKS can date the buildings based on the photos. Two of > them, especially, have some rather striking features. > > The photos are at > http://dkenfield.home.mindspring.com/oldbuildings.html > > All info and suggestions gratefully appreciated.

"T Woods" <twoods@cyberpointdesign.com> wrote in message news:Xns91F2E03C0788Ctinacyberpointdesign@209.249.90.101... > It has been a long time, since I have had to go digging through family > closets, and there are certinly plenty of skeletons I am trying to bring to > light, so if this post is in all the wrong places, please be gentle with > the flaming barbecue. What is proper has changed way too much in the 6 > years since I last did this. > > This post doesn't belong *technically* with the veterans group, but I think > in the end it will make sense why I stuck it there anyway. > > I am trying very hard to fill in some important gaps in my > heritage..ie..just who exactly is my father? I cannot ask my mother, she is > firstly mentally ill, and secondly has PLENTY to hide, so the truth will > not come from that direction. At least not until I can fill in some of the > blanks otherwise. > > In questioning my mother further I was told the following (sketchy) > story..warning this is a little complicated! > > Sometime in the 18 months before I was born (in November of 1968), my > mother met a Navy man named Clifford Leroy Meacham. He was stationed at the > base (Pt. Mugu? spelling?) in Oxnard CA. There is also a Port Hueneme at Oxnard, along with the Coast Guard. > > They lived together (not married) and she became pregnant sometime in the > summer of 1967. But when she was approximately 5 months preggers, she had a > miscarriage. The doc ordered 3 weeks of no sex, and in the spring of 1968, > she again became pregnant with me. According to her story, she became > pregnant on the first try after the "no sex" edict. > Actually she got preggie in the winter time, like Feb 11-9=2. Which brings the subject to mind, why not do a timeline of events, people, etc. It just may help clarify the picture and help you see something you missed. Also, do not forget the DNA thing. You can use hair, etc. for this and someone may have a lock of hair, etc. more below. > Sometime before her 5th month of pregnancy with me, she and Cliff had a > falling out of some sort, and they split. She then met an ARMY man named > Carl Josephson.(Beginning to see the thing for men in uniforms rearing its > head here!) > Here is where you need to check any photographs, a lot of them are date stamped with the day printed, etc. Can help with the timeline. > This 2nd relationship seemed to hold up well, and when I was born a few > weeks later she put his name on my birth certificate. Knowing full well he > was not my father. They later married, had my sister, and divorced. When I > was 10 years old, she told me the "truth" about my father. > > I did spend an enormous amount of time about 5-6 years ago tracking down my > father. Or at least the person my mother claimed to be my father. From that > work I managed to obtain his military records, including his medical > records, the dates of his previous marriages, and divorces, and...his 1984 > death certificate. Literally a "dead end"! > > From Clifford's military & medical records I obtained 3 facts: 1) His blood > type was O+. 2) He had the mumps. 3) He had no other children. This led me > to conclude that something was very wrong with the picture that was > beginning to be painted. 1) My blood type is NEGATIVE, my mother's is > POSITIVE....as I understand it, two positives will never make a negative, > but I will defer this to anyone with more expertise. 2)Mumps if they occur > in a teenage male, will quite often cause sterility. 3) Did he not have > children due to the mumps? > Good question, but draw no conclusions from it. > For the last 5-6 years I have let these facts lie, afterall you cannot dig > up a ghost, and there is no-one left to talk to. Almost no-one. > His wife, if friendly and open could be asked if he ever said anything about a child, but tread lightly in respect for the woman and her memories. > Earlier this week a chance conversation with a long lost, and since found > brother (a long story about that, but not for this post). revealed that my > Mother's version of my heritage might not be as she had told me. > Add this to the timeline, birth, age, etc. Also what is his blood type, DNA, could you in fact be really brothers with the same Dad? A timeline can help. Mom's have been known to change things out of anger. > Her first marriage had been to an Air Force man named Robert Vacha (really > a thing for uniforms here!). He was stationed, and they lived in Reno, NV. > Together they were raising her son from a previous relationship, and the > long lost brother, born in 1965. At some point before September of 1966, > the Air Force husband is sent to a remote duty station out of the country, > but sometime in mid to late 1967 he is called back due to a family > emergency. His sons had been abandoned in a hotel room in Reno, their > mother (and mine) nowhere to be found. Local rumor is that she has left > town with a friend that had been asked to "watch out for" the wife and > children while the husband was away. A few weeks later she is arrested in > California after being pulled over for a minor traffic violaton (the police > discover the warrant for the Nevada abandonment charges). Rather than > extradite, she is sentenced to 2-3 years probation, and is sent to a mental > ward in California where she is kept for at least 6 months. She was not > released until at approx. mid -late 1968. (My guess is that they had no > facility to deal with a preggers woiman about to deliver and released her). > Check the arrest records, may have his name there. (could have been a witness to events or directly involved, whose car was she driving? Where was she living, who was registered on the rent/lease/motel room.) Although this might be really difficult to find out. > From other records I have of her...and I have no recollection of why I > found this, I know she was also arrested in Oxnard, CA in September of 1966 > for child abuse. These are not the same charges as those filed later in > Nevada. She was also at least making a part time residence in Reno during > this time (back and forth between Reno and Oxnard) > Not sure what the legalities are here, but the records would still be available. Also witnesses names, etc. More timeline. > With all of this..I know that someone somewhere is not telling the truth. > > If my brother is being honest then she could not have possibly been living > with Clifford Meacham for the 18 months she claims, as she was in the > mental ward. > Someone there could have been the father? Real important here to find out the exact timeline, also records should be available as to discharge etc. > If she is being honest, at least partially it still doesn't explain the > blood type thing. > > My guess is the "best friend/watch out for wife and kids friend/stab me in > the back non-friend" is the most likely candidate for my parentage. But I > have no name, no description, nothing of this person.And my mother's > husband, who she was cheating on with this "friend" is not talking to > anyone about that part of the saga. (Can't say I blame the poor guy!) > A private letter to him may be in order here. Also you should match your blood/dna with your brothers. > So if anyone out there ever heard of, was friends with, or heard rumors > about a woman named Joy Vacha aka Joy Dean, in either Oxnard, Ca or Reno, > NV, I could really use some help filling in the rest of the blanks and > putting this entire issue to rest one way or the other. > > Also, if anyone knows just how far back court records in Nevada go, that > would help also. My brother claims that there are alot of details in the > paperwork that went back and forth in the divorce, and criminal charges, > but he doesn't have copies. So I might need to go and do some digging, but > hate making that trek without knowing if it will do me any good whatsoever. > Don't know if they had no fault divorce, but the records should still be there and may be available to order on the net or by phone. > > WHEW! > Yeah, sometimes it is better to figure that the tree begins with you, and make a great legacy for your kids, etc. If you had a pretty firm timeline then you could present it to your "mother" when she is in a quiet time mood, and it could help her remember as the timeline doesn't lie, then she might fill in the blanks. She could be embarrassed about her life, maybe did drugs or just drank too much. Who knows. You are the one who has to determine how far you want to pursue this and is it worth it. It will not change who you are or what you have become and as I said, you could consider this the start of a new tree. A military father, (you pick the branch) a mom, siblings and you..... Wish you luck, a lot of wisdom is required here. > T. Woods > > > > >

[begin quoted material] 1) My blood type is NEGATIVE, my mother's is > POSITIVE....as I understand it, two positives will never make a negative, > but I will defer this to anyone with more expertise. [end quoted material] http://www.madsci.org/FAQs/blood.html Shows the following regarding Rh bloodtypes (Maternal)---> Rh+ Rh- Rh+ + or - + or - Rh- + or - - only I hope the above displays correctly after this is sent. What it's showing is that the only thing that's certain with Rh bloodtypes is that two negatives will ALWAYS be negative. Two positives or one of each with produce EITHER a + or a -. [begin quoted material] 2)Mumps if they occur in a teenage male, will quite often cause sterility. [end quoted material] From http://www.mckinley.uiuc.edu/health-info/dis-cond/commdis/mumpssci.html COMMON MYTHS Mumps can cause sterility and impotence in males. No. There is no evidence that mumps can cause impotence. The cases of sterility from mumps are rare. It is best to catch mumps and get it over with. No. It is better to be immunized against the disease. Complications from the disease can cause serious problems. http://www.med.sc.edu:85/pdf-vir/mmr.pdf shows (on page 6) that mumps in the testis is common in adults (20% of adult males) and not a significant cause of sterility. http://www.student.ahc.umn.edu/dental/2004/notes/fall2001/mi011108.PDF (page 2) indicates one symptom of mumps is sterility in postpuberty males, but it is rare. So, from the above, it doesn't sound like you can count anyone out as your father based on childhood disease or Rh factor. -- Barb Orange County, Indiana, Marriage Record Index: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~woodhousegenealogy/

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"Ingrid Billings" <ingrid@cumorah.demon.co.uk> wrote in message: > Can work the other way my G.Grandfather was nearly 6.10 and I am 5.3 or > thereabouts. > And the genetics might cancel each other out. I'm 5'11"; I'm several inches teller than my maternal grandfather; and my great-great-grandmother (on my father's side) was 6' 5". Chuck Wolfram

Can work the other way my G.Grandfather was nearly 6.10 and I am 5.3 or thereabouts. Ingrid Billings looking for EMBERSON / BANGS in Essex v.FRAGSTEIN anywhere! In message <3cbd65f9$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Kevin Ettery <kpettery@dcsi.net.au> writes >Apparently the reason for graves needing to be bigger is not gradual genetic >changes, but instead that, with better nutrition, the average human body is >able to grow closer to full potential stature, whereas the poorer nutrition >of centuries past could cause various skeletal stunting problems and so >prevent full stature from being achieved (although a picture of my >g-g-grandfather [at 40] seems to indicate that I would have been able to >look him straight in the eye - and I'm 5'11"!). > >Regards > > > >Kevin > > >Georgia Lane <glane@gallatinriver.net> wrote in message >news:a9ig6l18mi@enews1.newsguy.com... >> Yes, grave sizes HAVE changed in the past 50 years, according to the >keeper >> of our home cemetery in Ohio. We were noticing the very same thing when >we >> buried my sister and my mother (they died within 24 hours of each other). >> The man said that Americans in particular have grown in the past 50-100 >> years, especially in height. The graves are usually dug approximately 8 >> inches longer than formerly. >> >> gwl >> >> > > -- ingrid@cumorah.demon.co.uk 'Prepare Thyself and the Opportunity Will Come'

Apparently the reason for graves needing to be bigger is not gradual genetic changes, but instead that, with better nutrition, the average human body is able to grow closer to full potential stature, whereas the poorer nutrition of centuries past could cause various skeletal stunting problems and so prevent full stature from being achieved (although a picture of my g-g-grandfather [at 40] seems to indicate that I would have been able to look him straight in the eye - and I'm 5'11"!). Regards Kevin Georgia Lane <glane@gallatinriver.net> wrote in message news:a9ig6l18mi@enews1.newsguy.com... > Yes, grave sizes HAVE changed in the past 50 years, according to the keeper > of our home cemetery in Ohio. We were noticing the very same thing when we > buried my sister and my mother (they died within 24 hours of each other). > The man said that Americans in particular have grown in the past 50-100 > years, especially in height. The graves are usually dug approximately 8 > inches longer than formerly. > > gwl > >