This is my 1st message on GENMSC-L I have an extensive Crowningshield/Crowninshield tree that goes back to John Kasper Ricter Von Kronenshelt. But I am looking for info on Clifford (b.1769 in MA) and his son Herman (b. 1797) Crowningshield. I would appreciate any info. Thank you ....... Gary Crowningshield

"Barbara A. Brown" wrote: > > Don Nickell wrote: > > > > I checked the Internet for "independant city" and came up with a lot of them. > > and how many hits for the correct spelling "independent city" ? <g> What's in a name? Potatoe, potato; programmer, programer. ;-P

Hi, Pat, LA has Parishes. Thanks for the reply. I've been recording the County as is shown in the CCF201 data base by the USGS. Somewhere, years ago, I read you should enter something else, but I can't remember what that was so thought I'd ask again. I guess every city/township/village is within the boundaries of some county, and there's no denying that, I even quoted that in the little bit on Fairfax. My original message was *wrong* when I said, "...not within a County." Should have said, "...not under the jurisdiction of a county." So, where are vitals stored/filed? Probably in the county seat of said county; and that's what we are interested in. Wish I knew what I was talking/asking about. ;-) Thanks for your 2c, Don Pat wrote: > > I see that many people have replied to you but I would like to add my two > cents. New York City is made up of 5 boroughs; Manhattan (New York County), > Staten Island (Richmond County), Brooklyn (Kings County), Queens (Queens > County) and the Bronx (Bronx County) > Baltimore City is within the county of Baltimore. When you get out to Long > Island there are townships within the counties. It gets very confusing but > you should record the county, borough, township, or whatever the locals call > their government divisions. I forget what they call the divisions in > Louisiana. > > An example of what I mean: my grandmother died in a hospital in East Meadow, > Town of Hempstead, Nassau County, L.I., NY and was buried just a few miles > away in Hicksville, Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County, L.I., NY. My other > grandmother died in a hospital in New York City, Manhattan borough, New York > County, NY. > > I am with those who say that Washington D.C. is the only exception to the > county rule. But having lived in a D.C suburb for 11 years, I can say that > they do things their own way in D.C.!!!!

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Don Nickell wrote: > > I checked the Internet for "independant city" and came up with a lot of them. and how many hits for the correct spelling "independent city" ? <g> ~~~

I haven't had to deal with that yet but if I did, I'd list the city name as the county and treat it as being the same entity. Wayne Haegele On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:17:49 GMT, Don Nickell <dnickell@icehouse.net> wrote: >What is the generally accepted practice for the County entry for a City that is independant? E.g. Norfolk, VA and Baltimore, MD are listed as independant cities, i.e., not within a county. These are only two of many. > >Thanks, >Don

I checked the Internet for "independant city" and came up with a lot of them. I know many are in their own county, Los Alamos, NM I know of for instance. But, the ones I found on the Internet say "independant city"; I'll get some and post here. While waiting for Fairfax, VA to load: I've used the USGS City County Finder for years and the listing for e.g., County: Fairfax(c). It's Web Page sez: "Today Fairfax serves as the county seat for Fairfax County, despite having a completely independant government of it's own (!)." Google found 267 hits for that phrase, including Bablyon and Salford, UK. "D. Stussy" wrote: > > PS: The only city in the U.S. I can think of that doesn't have a county is > Washington, DC. The "District" takes the place of a state, not a county. -- ~~~~~ Visit our NICKELL, GAUNCE, MOOTY genealogy Web Page http://nickell.tierranet.com ~~~~~

Depends how you are defining 'City'. The City of Bridgeport CT is in Fairfield County! http://www.cityofbridgeport.org/default.asp "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0204221956220.24038-100000@exp.bde-arc.ampr.org... > PS: The only city in the U.S. I can think of that doesn't have a county is > Washington, DC. The "District" takes the place of a state, not a county. > >

PS: The only city in the U.S. I can think of that doesn't have a county is Washington, DC. The "District" takes the place of a state, not a county.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Don Nickell wrote: >What is the generally accepted practice for the County entry for a City that >is independant? E.g. Norfolk, VA and Baltimore, MD are listed as independant >cities, i.e., not within a county. These are only two of many. Are you certain that they aren't their own counties? The City and County of San Francisco, CA share identical borders. I have heard the same of Denver, CO (after it split from Aurora County), but I don't have first hand knowledge of the fact.

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Don Nickell wrote: > > What is the generally accepted practice for the County entry for a City > that is independant? E.g. Norfolk, VA and Baltimore, MD are listed as > independant cities, i.e., not within a county. These are only two of > many. > > Dunno that it's "standard" or even "acceptable", but I put the parent county in in (parens). Many of the references are organized by County, and when I happen NOT to remember where Salem Va is, having the county name helps. (g) At least with the co. name, I end up in the right part of the state! Cheryl

What is the generally accepted practice for the County entry for a City that is independant? E.g. Norfolk, VA and Baltimore, MD are listed as independant cities, i.e., not within a county. These are only two of many. Thanks, Don

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Henry F. Brownlee wrote: >On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:39:39 +0200, Bernard DEBREIL <bdebreil@teaser.fr> wrote: >>I am not English speaking by birth, I don't even speak English on a daily >>basis... so I am not sure if what my explanation is worth something. >> >>I have always thought that the difference between a 'wound' and an >>'injury', was a matter of.. blowing ! 'wound' would come from 'wind'. >>So, a shotgun wound would be a wound, because the balls do blow up once >>they are inside one's body. In the other hand, a sword would just cause >>injuries... >> >>These are my two cents... thanks for comments... > >Bernard, mon Ami, all explanations should be considered. > >In actuality, shotgun "balls" or pellets, if you will, do not blow up once >they are inside the skin; they pierce the skin (just like a sword) and >generally do damage because of impact upon organs or loss of blood (or >both). > >My take on the whole thing is that a wound is a skin puncture and that >injuries include wounds. > > In our peculiar language, wound can also be the past tense of wind, like to >wind a clock spring. Then, again, wind can be a gentle breeze or a big blow! >Guess you were right in the first place. <G> That was a very bad pun - perhaps played on you! Wind - n. A blowing breeze. Wind - v. To turn something in a circular motion to impart stored energy. (to wind a clock, to wind up a toy, ... i.e. things with springs - and I don't mean a source of water). Wound - n. A penetrating injury. Wound - v. Past participle of Wind. Although spelled the same, both sets of words do have different pronounciations. The long vowels pertain to the verb, while short vowels to the nouns.

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 01:39:39 +0200, Bernard DEBREIL <bdebreil@teaser.fr> wrote: >I am not English speaking by birth, I don't even speak English on a daily >basis... so I am not sure if what my explanation is worth something. > >I have always thought that the difference between a 'wound' and an >'injury', was a matter of.. blowing ! 'wound' would come from 'wind'. >So, a shotgun wound would be a wound, because the balls do blow up once >they are inside one's body. In the other hand, a sword would just cause >injuries... > >These are my two cents... thanks for comments... Bernard, mon Ami, all explanations should be considered. In actuality, shotgun "balls" or pellets, if you will, do not blow up once they are inside the skin; they pierce the skin (just like a sword) and generally do damage because of impact upon organs or loss of blood (or both). My take on the whole thing is that a wound is a skin puncture and that injuries include wounds. In our peculiar language, wound can also be the past tense of wind, like to wind a clock spring. Then, again, wind can be a gentle breeze or a big blow! Guess you were right in the first place. <G> Bon soir, Henry F. Brownlee Hunting forebears

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On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:07:56 +0200, Singhals wrote: > Would someone explain the difference between "Wounded in Battle" and > "Injured in Battle" ?? > > Clearly, people who were above the age of reason in WW-II see a > difference, but, I wasn't even a twinkle yet and be darn if I get it. > (g) I am not English speaking by birth, I don't even speak English on a daily basis... so I am not sure if what my explanation is worth something. I have always thought that the difference between a 'wound' and an 'injury', was a matter of.. blowing ! 'wound' would come from 'wind'. So, a shotgun wound would be a wound, because the balls do blow up once they are inside one's body. In the other hand, a sword would just cause injuries... These are my two cents... thanks for comments... > Clarification welcomed. > > Cheryl -- Bernard DEBREIL