"John Ferman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:040120042049130271%[email protected] > The effectiveness of moderation subsumes one or more persons willing to > put lots of time into it. Another health-type group I used to read > started out moderated and thing went swimmingly for a while. Then the > moderator disappeared. Eventually the group fizzled. That's the risk. And the mod on sgmm disappears on a regular basis.

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Except for one thing.. moderated groups generally do not have as much interaction. Many people avoid moderated groups because of the internal politics and they don't always like to subjugate themselves to someone else's personalities or whims. In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote: > It is possible to post an RFC and begin a movement to change a > newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated. It is a long process with > required steps and time limits but anyone can start the ball in > motion. > > That might make more sense than yet another newsgroup... > > -Doc > > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:25:35 -0500, "Genjunkie" > <[email protected]> appears to have written: > > > > >"Lesley Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >news:[email protected] > >> > >> I wonder whether the simplest answer might not ultimately be to just > >start > >> another group with a slightly different name? > > > >Brilliant. > > > >:) > >

It is possible to post an RFC and begin a movement to change a newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated. It is a long process with required steps and time limits but anyone can start the ball in motion. That might make more sense than yet another newsgroup... -Doc On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:25:35 -0500, "Genjunkie" <[email protected]> appears to have written: > >"Lesley Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected] >> >> I wonder whether the simplest answer might not ultimately be to just >start >> another group with a slightly different name? > >Brilliant. > >:) >

"Ghost" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > > Except for one thing.. moderated groups generally do not have as much > interaction. > > Many people avoid moderated groups because of the internal politics and > they don't always like to subjugate themselves to someone else's > personalities or whims. > > Cheryl seems to think the moderated group is "safer." I wonder about this. How "unsafe" can simple free verbal exchange really be? The real world must be terribly frightening to some if Usenet is so scary. Meanwhile, alt.genealogy.methods has little traffic, so I guess there isn't much interest in an unmoderated methods group at the moment. At least it is there, in case anyone wants to get some discussions going. > > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote: > > > It is possible to post an RFC and begin a movement to change a > > newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated. It is a long process with > > required steps and time limits but anyone can start the ball in > > motion. > > > > That might make more sense than yet another newsgroup... > > > > -Doc > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:25:35 -0500, "Genjunkie" > > <[email protected]> appears to have written: > > > > > > > >"Lesley Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message > > >news:[email protected] > > >> > > >> I wonder whether the simplest answer might not ultimately be to just > > >start > > >> another group with a slightly different name? > > > > > >Brilliant. > > > > > >:) > > >

>Mother's Maiden Name is public information that cannot be hidden >from anyone who bothers to do the research (if they can figure >out *which* Bill Smith you are!). > -- Dr. Adam Drewnowski Your right there! Laurie

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Published on: Fri Jan 2 23:55:03 EST 2004 Posted by: Cathy Hirschberg-VanWyk --------- Searching for relatives of Wilhelm and Anna (Weiss) Hirschberg.They were from Batzdorf, Bohemia. Joseph was one of their sons that came to America in around 1904. Joseph married Marie Volkmer in 1908 and lived in Lohrville, Iowa. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. --------- For contact, please, visit this Bulletin Board posting published in category Find An Ancestor at http://www.muselik.com/bb/vw.cgi?recid=75MM4MAHNH CZECH INFO CENTER http://www.muselik.com/ Internet Premier Czech Information Resource

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:18:16 -0500, "Mick Gurling" <[email protected]> appears to have written: > >Within reason anything can be used as a forename if the parents choose it. >Thus many have through history been given, as their formal forename, what >was once considered to be a nickname or abbreviation of another name. Thus >the real answer is it depends on the parents' choice. Beyond the extreme outliers there are also name trends that are tied to time periods. There was a interesting thread earlier about whether Bessie was a given name or a nickname. One poster mentioned that Bessie as a given name was extremely uncommon outside of 1890-1910. It's no wonder that family history researchers know all kinds of interesting titbits. It's all part of the job... Cheers, Doc

In article <[email protected]>, Doc Miller <[email protected]> wrote: :> For the few lame institutions that still ask that question (and city :> of birth) I always provide the same bogus answer. That way nobody :> can figure it out even if they know the actual information about my :> history. :> :> I felt pretty paranoid 10 years ago when I started doing but now it :> seems strange not to do it. The onus should be on the institution and :> not the customer. :> :> -Doc :> :> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:31:58 +0800, Dan Jacobson <[email protected]> :> appears to have written: :> :> >How does one mention ones family tree publicly without endangering :> >them and oneself of Mothers Maiden Name Theft? :> > :> >I suppose we must not mention who our parents or kids are on :> >web pages, as all it would take is right two pages to revival the :> >precious Mothers Maiden Name. :> If people would bother to do some reasonable checking, they would discover that having a mother's maiden name readily obtainable is not a great risk factor in identity theft. Instead, the single greatest contributor is the abuse and misuse of an individual's Social Security Number. It's been adopted as a driver's license number in some states, while still others developed the nasty habit of placing it on the face of the license (happily, Alabama has now begun "allowing" drivers to eliminate it from the license at renewal). It's been selected by many health insurance providers as a contract or policy number. It's being used for "identification" purposes in school systems across the nation. The simple fact is that this one item alone contributes to more identity theft than any other fact about an individual. If you haven't been a victim, it could be just a matter of time...and it's not pleasant. = Steve = -- Steve W. Jackson Montgomery, Alabama

"Doc Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > That is my thought too. I have found a fair number of Hie entries on > Google but I have never been able to determine if is a nickname or > not. > > I am off to the library tomorrow so I will attempt Hiram and see what > happens. > > -Doc > > On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 00:12:59 GMT, "Eric and Jamie Simmons" > <[email protected]> appears to have written: > > >Hiram? > > > > > >"Doc Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >news:[email protected] > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I found a note in a family bible that simply says "Hie Inman - 1851". > >> > >> Is Hie a complete christian name or is it an abbreviation or nickname > >> for some other name? With a surname of Inman it may be a German > >> christian name. > >> > >> -Doc > > > Within reason anything can be used as a forename if the parents choose it. Thus many have through history been given, as their formal forename, what was once considered to be a nickname or abbreviation of another name. Thus the real answer is it depends on the parents' choice. -- Mick G CT-USA Researching: Gorbals: Bryan, McDonald Hereford: James, South, Yarranton. St Giles in the Fields: Barnett, Bryan, Gurling, Holland, Ing, Yarranton. Southwark: Quinton, Richards. Stafford/Salop Belliston, Boycott, Cleary, Yorke

Thanks Mike! I will look for those in the indices tomorrow. -Doc On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 00:53:33 GMT, "MikeS" <[email protected]> appears to have written: >> "Doc Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> news:[email protected] >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I found a note in a family bible that simply says "Hie Inman - 1851". >> > >> > Is Hie a complete christian name or is it an abbreviation or nickname >> > for some other name? With a surname of Inman it may be a German >> > christian name. > >I can't answer your question whether this is a proper name/proper Christian >name. However, doing a first name search on ancestry.com for the name "Hie" >resulted in the following: > >Search Results: Hie > > New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 15 > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s 2 > > Census Records 383 matches > > 1930 United States Federal Census 96 > 1920 United States Federal Census 78 > 1880 United States Federal Census 59 > 1870 United States Federal Census 50 > California Census, 1790-1890 23 > > Birth, Marriage, & Death Records 351 matches > > Social Security Death Index 52 > Westminster Marriage, Baptismal, and Burial Registers 29 > Bartholomew County, Indiana Index to Birth Records, 1883-1920, Volume I >22 > Wells County, Indiana Index to Death Records, 1883-1920 18 > Clinton County, Indiana Index to Birth Records, 1882-1920, Volume I-II 16 > view all 351 Birth, Marriage, & Death Records results > > Military Records 168 matches > Kentucky Civil War Union Volunteers 52 > War of the Rebellion 48 > Kentucky Confederate Volunteers 24 > Connecticut, Adjutant-General Report, 1901 6 > Kentucky Soldiers of the War of 1812 5 > view all 168 Military Records results >> > > Immigration & Naturalization Records 89 matches > Immigrants in Pennsylvania, 1727-76 44 > New York Chinese Exclusion Index 17 > New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 15 > Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization: New York County, >1907-1924 3 > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s 2 > view all 89 Immigration & Naturalization Records results >> > >

That is my thought too. I have found a fair number of Hie entries on Google but I have never been able to determine if is a nickname or not. I am off to the library tomorrow so I will attempt Hiram and see what happens. -Doc On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 00:12:59 GMT, "Eric and Jamie Simmons" <[email protected]> appears to have written: >Hiram? > > >"Doc Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected] >> Hello all, >> >> I found a note in a family bible that simply says "Hie Inman - 1851". >> >> Is Hie a complete christian name or is it an abbreviation or nickname >> for some other name? With a surname of Inman it may be a German >> christian name. >> >> -Doc >

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> "Doc Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > Hello all, > > > > I found a note in a family bible that simply says "Hie Inman - 1851". > > > > Is Hie a complete christian name or is it an abbreviation or nickname > > for some other name? With a surname of Inman it may be a German > > christian name. I can't answer your question whether this is a proper name/proper Christian name. However, doing a first name search on ancestry.com for the name "Hie" resulted in the following: Search Results: Hie New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 15 Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s 2 Census Records 383 matches 1930 United States Federal Census 96 1920 United States Federal Census 78 1880 United States Federal Census 59 1870 United States Federal Census 50 California Census, 1790-1890 23 Birth, Marriage, & Death Records 351 matches Social Security Death Index 52 Westminster Marriage, Baptismal, and Burial Registers 29 Bartholomew County, Indiana Index to Birth Records, 1883-1920, Volume I 22 Wells County, Indiana Index to Death Records, 1883-1920 18 Clinton County, Indiana Index to Birth Records, 1882-1920, Volume I-II 16 view all 351 Birth, Marriage, & Death Records results Military Records 168 matches Kentucky Civil War Union Volunteers 52 War of the Rebellion 48 Kentucky Confederate Volunteers 24 Connecticut, Adjutant-General Report, 1901 6 Kentucky Soldiers of the War of 1812 5 view all 168 Military Records results >> Immigration & Naturalization Records 89 matches Immigrants in Pennsylvania, 1727-76 44 New York Chinese Exclusion Index 17 New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 15 Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization: New York County, 1907-1924 3 Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s 2 view all 89 Immigration & Naturalization Records results >>

For the few lame institutions that still ask that question (and city of birth) I always provide the same bogus answer. That way nobody can figure it out even if they know the actual information about my history. I felt pretty paranoid 10 years ago when I started doing but now it seems strange not to do it. The onus should be on the institution and not the customer. -Doc On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:31:58 +0800, Dan Jacobson <[email protected]> appears to have written: >How does one mention ones family tree publicly without endangering >them and oneself of Mothers Maiden Name Theft? > >I suppose we must not mention who our parents or kids are on >web pages, as all it would take is right two pages to revival the >precious Mothers Maiden Name.