This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jfennell42 Surnames: Finel, Fennel, Fennell, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7552/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have about 98% of the info you have posted. The one that is very interesting is the one about the English land records. Thank you for your reply. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_johnwil Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7551.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Carol.. 'fraid thats not the Elizabeth I had hoped it would be - but it has at least discounted that one, so onward we go to look for other likely candidates. Wish I knew exactly where she arrived, it would make life a bit easier (perhaps??) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LSLangille Surnames: FINEL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7545.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm not related. I found a few references to a couple different Edward Finel's. You'd have to be the judge to see if they belong to you. You might contact a library or university research dept. to see if they have microfilm of any of these references. American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) Name: Edward Finel Birth Date: 1720 Volume: 54 Page Number: 176 Reference: Gen. Column of the " Boston Transcript". 1906-1941.( The greatest single source of material for gen. Data for the N.E. area and for the period 1600-1800. Completely indexed in the Index.): 16 Dec 1925, 3669 American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) Name: Edward Finel Birth Date: 1748 Birthplace: Massachusetts Volume: 54 Page Number: 176 Reference: Gen. Column of the " Boston Transcript". 1906-1941.( The greatest single source of material for gen. Data for the N.E. area and for the period 1600-1800. Completely indexed in the Index.): 18 Feb 1925, 2724; 23 Jul 1924, 2042 Edward Finel, "Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954" name: Edward Finel event: Death event date: 12 Jun 1821 event place: Poultney, , Vermont, United States age: 73 estimated birth year: 1748 Name of Cemetery: East Poultney Cemetery film number: 27546 digital folder number: 004544004 image number: 03128 New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Name: Edward Finel Residence Date: 1776 Residence Place: Albany, New York, United States Comments: Thirteenth Regiment New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Name: Edward Finel Residence Date: 1776 Residence Place: New York City, New York, New York, United States Comments: Second Regiment Web: Vermont, Find A Grave Index, 1777-2011 Name: Edward, Sr Finel Birth Date: 1748 Age at Death: 73 Death Date: 19 Jun 1821 Burial Place: East Poultney, Rutland County, Vermont, USA http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=FI&GSfn=e&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=49&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=41&GRid=78414182&df=all& 1790 United States Federal Census Name: Edward Fennell [Edward Finel] Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Poultney, Rutland, Vermont Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females: 2 Number of Household Members: 6 1800 United States Federal Census Name: Ewd Farnel [Edward Finel] [End Farnel] Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Poultney, Rutland, Vermont Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 4 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 8 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 11 1810 United States Federal Census Name: Edward Finil [Edward Finel] Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Poultney, Rutland, Vermont Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 4 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 11 1820 United States Federal Census Name: Edward Finnel [Edward Finel] Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Poultney, Rutland, Vermont Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820 Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1 Free White Persons - Under 16: 1 Free White Persons - Over 25: 3 Total Free White Persons: 7 Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 7 All History of Rutland County, Vermont : with illustrations and biographical sketches of some of its prominent men and pioneers results for Edward Finel http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genealogy-glh27782485&so=2&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsln_x=XO&gskw="Edward Finel"&gskw_x=1&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=3o3&cp=0 London, England, Land Tax Records, 1692-1932 Tenant: Edward Finel First Year of Section: 1754 Civil Parish or Ward: Cripplegate Without Borough or County: City of London Call Number: MS 11319/166 Edward Finel - page 262 "A History of the Town of Poultney, Vermont: From It's Settlement to the Year........" by Barnes Frisbie, Frederick Ruggles http://books.google.com/books?id=lQWbXcCvZCQC&printsec=frontcover&dq="Joslin's History of Poultney&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IFHoUKnJBcLS0wHitIHgDA&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Finel&f=false I would suggest investigating Revolutionary War records for the surname. Good luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carol santos Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7551.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: age 25/Lady's maid/race irish Last permenent resident: Brookline Ma USA ever before in USA: yes 5 years Brookline Ma name & address of nearest relative from country alien came father Joseph J Nuston? Lacken Bally ? Bambridge co Down Going To Cousin, Joseph Braig 81 Perry St Brookline Ma Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_johnwil Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7551/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help me with details of the arrival of :- Elizabeth Johnson, in Boston, aboard the 'Ivernia' late March 1912. (The ship departed Liverpool 13th March, and called at Halifax NS, - I think - 23rd?) She would have been in her 20's and was a servant/maid. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bananti Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7546.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you LSLangille for all your information on McGraths. I'm very interested in the Castlegarden lists also some of those Worcester ones look interesting. thanks again, Liz. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LSLangille Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7546.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Liz, Not related. Long shot here ... a Joseph McGrath living in Worcester, MASS. in 1940 and born in Ireland. probably a rooming house from the names .... Joseph H Mcgrath in household of Eliza Laveulette, "United States Census, 1940" name: Joseph H Mcgrath event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 6, Worcester, Worcester City, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States gender: Male age: 48 marital status: Single race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (standardized): Lodger birthplace: Ireland estimated birth year: 1892 residence in 1935: Same House enumeration district number: 23-145 family number: 38 sheet number and letter: 2B line number: 61 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 1717 digital folder number: 005461162 image number: 00291 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Eliza Laveulette F 56 Canada son Paul T Laveulette M 25 Massachusetts lodger Joseph H Mcgrath M 48 Ireland <<<------ Not sure of your ages since you didn't post lodger Charles Mckay M 21 lodger John J Curley M 59 Ireland lodger Sidney W Willis M 26 Massachusetts lodger Patrick C Mckeon M 28 Ireland lodger Joseph Bertorelli M 46 Italy lodger John Delucca M 31 New York lodger Antonio J Samoro M 24 Rhode Island Joseph's occ is a porter at a college. Not sure if this is your "Joseph McGrath", but posted in case. The 1940 Census (unfortunately) does not give a year of immigration for him. Besides Ellisisland.org, you can also try castlegarden.org for ship manifests. It's free unless you want to order a record. Just as an FYI, the last USA Census is 1940. The only way you may find their family after that is through the U.S. Public records (Vol 1 & 2) here on Ancestry. It helps if you have a bithdate or general location). Also, there are two "Patrick McGrath's living in Worcester, MA" in the 1940 Census who were born in Ireland: Patrick Mcgrath, "United States Census, 1940" name: Patrick Mcgrath event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 8, Worcester, Worcester City, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States gender: Male age: 50 marital status: Married race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (standardized): Head birthplace: Ireland estimated birth year: 1890 residence in 1935: Same House enumeration district number: 23-183 family number: 184 sheet number and letter: 8A line number: 26 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 1718 digital folder number: 005461163 image number: 00843 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Patrick Mcgrath M 50 Ireland wife Nellie Mcgrath F 49 Ireland daughter Mary Mcgrath F 18 Massachusetts son John Mcgrath M 16 Massachusetts daughter Elizabeth Mcgrath F 14 Massachusetts son Thomas Mcgrath M 12 Massachusetts son Francis Mcgrath M 11 Massachusetts son Vincent Mcgrath M 9 Massachusetts and this one .... Patrick Mcgrath, "United States Census, 1940" name: Patrick Mcgrath event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 4, Worcester, Worcester City, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States gender: Male age: 39 marital status: Married race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (standardized): Head birthplace: Southern Ireland estimated birth year: 1901 residence in 1935: Same House enumeration district number: 23-101 family number: 216 sheet number and letter: 13A line number: 35 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 1715 digital folder number: 005461160 image number: 00619 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Patrick Mcgrath M 39 Southern Ireland wife Nora Mcgrath F 36 Southern Ireland son John Mcgrath M 11 Massachusetts son James Mcgrath M 8 Massachusetts It's unfortunate that the 1940 US Census does not give immigration years. There are many possibilities out there for the info you need, but without birthdates, it's almost impossible to know for sure. Good luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JOHNCASSINARI Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks again Fran....it's on my to do list! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

ANNOUNCING NEW DATABASE BOOK 4 - INTERMENT INDEX ST. MARY'S CEMETERY, TROY NEW YORK INTERMENT YEARS - April 1935 - November 1952 A. Book 4, part of a multi-volume set of Interment Records at St. Mary's Cemetery, Troy, NY, which includes 5,112 names, has now been added to the Troy Irish Genealogy website. You can view these interment records by going to the Troy Irish Genealogy website at: www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ click on TIGS PROJECTS and then click on ST. MARY'S CEMETERY, TROY, NY - INTERMENT RECORDS. B. This new data series of interment records list an individuals name, date of death and age at death. In a large number of records, the age is reported in years, months and days. Some entries without a date of death, are re-interments to or from another cemetery. It should be noted that these records, like most of the TIGS data series, cover the general population in the area and are NOT restricted to Irish surnames. C. Researchers having relatives with a CAPITAL DISTRICT area connection, will be interested in these on-line, name searchable, records of names of individuals who were interred in St. Mary's Cemetery in Troy, NY. If you live in a nearby county or even further away, you might want to check out these names. Take a look at the data base, you never know what you will find. D. The TIGS website has a PRINTABLE FORM that can be used to request more information from the Albany Diocesan Cemeteries. Mailing instructions and fees (only $5.00) are on the request form. Additional items that may be available from the full interment record may include: 1. LATE RESIDENCE: While many of the records in Book 4 show only the name of the city as the late residence, 1,348 of the records will show a house number and a Troy street address. 2. INTERMENT DATE: The date of interment in St. Mary's Cemetery may be another clue which will be helpful to genealogy and family researchers. 3. SECTION/LOT#: The section and lot number may be another clue which will be helpful to genealogy and family researchers. 4. UNDERTAKER: The name of the undertaker may be another clue which will be helpful to genealogy and family researchers. E. The following information on the 5,112 deaths will be of interest: 1. No age was reported for 208 names and 112 records were identified as "Still Born". 2. A breakdown of the other deaths by age groups shows: Under 1 year - 210 names. Age 1 to 10 - 95 names. Age 11 to 19 - 37 names. Age 20 to 29 - 114 names. Age 30 to 39 - 186 names. Age 40 to 49 - 355 names. Age 50 to 59 - 789 names. Age 60 to 69 - 1,261 names. Age 70 to 79 - 1,190 names. Age 80 to 89 - 489 names. Age 90 to 99 - 63 names. Age 100+ - 1 name. F. Nearly all of the 5,112 interment records showed some indication of residence. Those records will be of interest to researchers outside of the Troy Area as they identify residences in numerous cities and towns throughout New York State as well as 21 other states and Canada. While most of the records were for the Capital District Area, other areas throughout New York State were reported. Some specifics on residence information follow: 1. The following NYS locations had three or more records: Albany-136, Averill Park-4, Bethlehem-4, , Brunswick-31, Buffalo-3, Cohoes-42, Colonie-19, Cropsyville-3, East Greenbush-6, Glens Falls-8, Glenville-4, Grafton-3, Green Island-111, Hawthorne-3, Hoosick-4, Hudson-6, Marcy-3, Mechanicville-5, Menands-7, North Greenbush-107, Oneonta-4, Orangeburg-3, Petersburg-3, Pittstown-5, Plattsburgh-3, Poestenkill-9, Poughkeepsie-105, Rensselaer-4, Rochester-3, Rome-4, Sand Lake-14, Saratoga Springs-14, Schaghticoke-13, Schenectady-43, Syracuse-4, Troy-3,502 including 1,348 with street addresses, Utica-11, Voorheesville-5, Waterford-9, Watervliet-144 and Wynantskill-4. 2. The following NYS locations had 2 records: Cambridge, Canton, Castle Point, Center Brunswick, Chester, Claverack, Corinth, Groveland, Guilderland, Halfmoon, Ilion, Latham, Mount Pleasant, Niskayuna, North Elba, Oxford, Pleasantdale, Rotterdam and Saranac Lake. 3. The following NYS locations had 1 record: Altamont, Ballston Spa, Batavia, Bath, Beacon, Berlin, Brewster, Broadalbin, Eagle Mills, Elmira, Fort Edward, Grand island, Greenwich, Herkimer, Hoosick Falls, Hudson Falls, Kingston, Lake Placid, Loudonville, Lyons, Malta, Malvern, Melrose, Moreau, Ogdensburg, Oriskany, Penn Yan, Red Hook, Salem, Schodack, Schuylerville, St. Johnsville, Suffern, Tamarack, Valley Falls, Vienna, Webb, West Haverstraw, West Seneca and Wingdale. 4. For the New York City area, there were 97 records for Manhattan, 9 records for Brooklyn, 8 records for Queens, 1 record for the Bronx, 10 records for Westchester and 9 records for Long Island. Three records indicated "New York" so it is unclear if this meant New York State or New York City. 5. There were a number of records from the neighboring states of Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut and New Jersey. Connecticut has 8 records, Massachusetts had 12 records, Vermont had 8 and New Jersey had 22 records. 6. Residence was also indicated from the following states: Arkansas, Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, and the District of Columbia. 7. The only foreign country listed was Canada. 8. The following organizations (hospitals, nursing homes, religious institutions) were indicated as the residence; Albany Hospital-6, Leonard Hospital-30, Marshall's Sanitarium-5, McCarthy Rest Home-4, Nightingale Home-7, Samaritan Hospital-24, St. Mary's Hospital-6, St. Joseph's Maternity Hospital- 3, Troy Hospital-79, Home for the Aged-6, Sisters of the Good Shepherd-10, Little Sisters of the Poor-72 and the Welfare Home-13. 9. !3 Records were burials of Servicemen killed in Europe or the Pacific during World War II. G. There are now 17,009 interment records in the four Books of St. Mary's Cemetery records now on-line on the TIGS website. Book 5 of St. Mary's interments records is now being scanned. Hopefully you will find some of your ancestors listed in these interment records or in the 200,00 Irish and Non-Irish names in the various other data series on the Troy Irish Genealogy website. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mgmredfox Surnames: White Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7550/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on James White, born 1818 (Boston, Suffolk, MA), died 1857(East Rockaway N.Y.) married to Hannah Abrams b.1822. Her parents were Edward Abrams (1788-1871) and Charity Pearsall ( 1793-1862). I cannot find James White's parents or any more information on his background. He is my great, great grandfather. Any help would be greatly appreciated. mgm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franmalone39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Glad that I could help. Rose Albini was the aunt she left behind in Italy. The last name Albini is probably the marriage name so Rose is either the sister of Giulia or the father. As for the family in Fitchburg, don't discard them. There is some connection between that family and your Grandmother. If you can make the trip to the Fitchburg Town/City Hall then you might find a wealth of information. Travel with a notebook and pencil. Get the certificate's you want then write all the other names down with the last name of Catalini, Cattalini, Catalani, or any other variation of the name that looks promising. Good Luck, Fran Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JOHNCASSINARI Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thank you Fran....I will get a copy of the death certificate asap....the Giulia that was my great grandmother married Giuseppe Bellaschi and she was born May 26 1874....she had a child with Giuseppe, Peter Belllaschi. This was my grandmother's half brother. Have picture of him from when I was a child. So I guess I still have some serious work to do there. But I do believe you are correct about the Dante Allegheri, not sure who Rose Albini is...I will have to research that and see if it leads anywhere also...thanks again! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenb73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7548.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'll check that out but since I live in Oklahoma, I don't know how difficult it is to get access to other libraries. I will let you know what I find out. Thanks! :-) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tam_I_Am Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7260.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for all the replies. I will have to go down with a certified copy of his death certificate (and my bc) to find out his pre-adoption birth record. I was told by someone at the library through email correspondence there was one male and given a name. But that was barkig up the wrong tree. A nice member from ancestry contacted me and I found out there were 2 males but one was restricted. He must be the restricted one because of his adoption. He did appear in the 1940 census with my grandparents. He was a lodger at 3 months old. LOL Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franmalone39 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi John First of all I agree with Margaret on getting the death certificate. If you don't have and still reside in Massachusetts or in the Fitchburg area then swing by the Fitchburg Town/City Hall and request the certificate. If all the information was known then her parents should be listed on the death certificate. Secondly think of the following questions. If you have thought them then rethink them as I give the following information. Why did our ancestor come to the United States? Why did she go to Fitchburg? Who was she going to? Our ancestors came to the U.S. for a number of reason and basically a new start on life. Why did she go to Fitchburg? Our ancestors went to a certain place because other family members were there already. Now who were the family members already in place/Fitchburg that she was going to? Was it her parents? Possibly with the ages of the people there and the women whose name is Julia/Giulia. However I'm not 100% positive for this to be the case. I believe there is a stronger chance that your Grandmother was going to her older brother residence. ***Note***Keep an open mind though that the ones she was going to see could have been her parents. Julia would have been around 12 when she would have given birth. It's unlikely this happened but possible. 1. From (ancestry.com) - The New York Passenger List 1820 to 1957 shows the ship Dante Alighieri arriving at Ellis Island, New York on Jan. 29, 1920. The ship sailed from the Italian Port of Genova on January 10, 1920. On line #24 of the manifest was the passenger Antoniette Catalani age 19 and her occupaton was millinery. Her last residence was Sagliano, Micca, Italy and the person she left in Italy was her Aunt Rose Albini. Her destination was Fitchburg, Mass. ***Note*** I believe this to be your Grandmother. 2. From (ancestry.com) - The United States Census Reports. The spelling of names can change drastically from what you are looking for so always use the soundex when looking for your surname. 1920 Federal Census Fitchburg, Worcester County, Massachusetts January 23, 1920 14 Belmont Street Surname: Catalani indexed as Cattalini Cattalini, Nazareno Head 36 yrs born 1883 Italy Cattalini, Julia Wife 31 yrs born 1888 Italy Cattalini, Adeline Dau 9 yrs born 1910 Italy Cattalini, Dominic Son 8 yrs born 1911 Italy Cattalini, Antonio Son 5 yrs born 1914 Mass. Cattalini, Josephine Dau 3 yrs born 1916 Mass. Nazareno was working for the town of Fitchburg's Sew Dept. He stated that he immigrated to the U.S. in 1911. Julia stated that she immigrated to the U.S. in 1912. Again the reporting system is only as good as the information reported. Mass. Vital Records shows that the son Anthony was born in Fitchburg on July 3, 1914. The mother's maiden name in the record shows Couti but other records indicate the last name as Conti. Keep both names handy as your search. 3. From (ancestry.com) - New York Passenger List 1820 to 1957. On April 3, 1912 Nazareno Catalini age 29 arrived at Ellis Island, New York. He was traveling with Basilio Catalini (most likely a brother) and he left according to the manifest his wife Julia in Italy. Destination was Boston, Mass. On April 17, 1913 Julia arrived at Ellis Island onboard the ship Konig Albert. The Ship's manifest listed her as Giulia Conti age 24 and her two children Adel age 3, and Domenico age 1 were also listed as Conti. ***Note***Alot of married women traveled under the maiden names. 4. From (ancestry.com) World War 1 Draft Registration Card Listed as Mazzarine Catalini born March 9, 1883. He gave his address as 37 Center Street Fitchburg, Mass., works for the city of Fitchburg, and the next of Kin is wife Julia. Card was signed September 12, 1918. World War 2 Draft Registation Card listed Nazzarreno Catalini born March 9, 1883 in Amantola, Italy. His address was 76 Heywood St. Fitchburg, Mass., and he works for the city of Fitchburg. Next of kin is wife Julia. Card signed April 26, 1942. 5. From (ancestry.com) - U.S. Federal Census Reports The 1930 Census for Fitchburg, Mass. shows the family name to be Catalini. They were residing at 76 Heywood Street. Members of the house were: Nazzareno age 47, Julia age 41, Adele age 20, Dominic age 18, Anthony age 15, Josephine age 13, Donate age 9, Anna age 7, and Albert age 4. The 1940 Census for Fitchburg, Mass. shows the family name to be Catalini. They were still residing at 76 Heywood Street. Members of the house were: Nazzareno age 56, Julia age 52, Josephine age 23, Daniel age 18, Anna age 17, Albert age 14, and Robert age 9. Some of the older children married during the past 10 yrs. 6. From (ancestry.com) - City Directories Checked the city directories for Fitchburg and followed the family till 1965 (last directory available). Towards the late 1940's they moved from the 76 Heywood Street back to 14 Belmont Street. The 1957 City Directory showed Julia as a widow and that Nazareno died November 15, 1955 at the age of 72. 7. From (ancestry.com) - SSDI (social security death index) Shows that Julia Catalini was born Aug. 19, 1888 and that she died February 1973 in Fitchburg. 8. From (ancestry.com) - There is one researcher that shows the parents of Nazzareno Catalini as Antonio Catalini and Giulia Costantini. ***Note*** The mother's name is Giulia (Julia) and for this reason I believe stronly that Nazzareno is an older brother to your Grandmother. Hopefully this helps. It doesn't answer your questions fully but it does give you more names to work with and I believe it gives you a family connection. What the connection is depends on what you can find from this point. Good Luck, Fran Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmbutts1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7548.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you every tried the Everett Library to see if they have a directory for the years 1903/4/5 - to see if there were any Trainers living in Everett? I don't know if Ancestry has it or not. Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmbutts1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You have her date of death but did you actually see her death certificate? You could go to Mass Vitals and see if her father was listed on it but if she was born out of wedlock then it probably isn't there. Same thing with her marriage record - might be listed but might not. You could try searching for Italian message boards and see if anyone there could help. Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenb73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7548.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. :-) I almost wonder if there may have been a name change at some time. So many unknowns but the challenge makes it that much more intriguing! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Trainer, Trainers, Trainor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7548.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, According to the census pages at "HeritageQuest," there weren't too many TRAINER or TRAINERS people in MA around 1900. In 1910 there were over 40 people with the TRAINER name, and 3 in Middlesex Co. But the 2 couples in Malden were around 50 and no children were mentioned. Looking at the handwriting, the name TRAINER could very well have had an "S" at the end of it. But TRAINERS is hardly mentioned. I just checked at www.familysearch.org and there was an Alexander TRAINOR born in Somerville, MA, in 1868, with parents, James and Mary. And it shows an Alfred TRAINOR living in a home in Brooklyn, NY, in 1905 - with a large, extended family, with parents, John and Mary TRAINOR: View image Save image Search collection About this collection name: Alfred Trainor residence: Brooklyn, Kings, New York age: 2 estimated birth year: 1903 birthplace: United States relationship to head of household: Son race: W gender: family number: 98 page number: 2 line number: 26 film number: 1930247 digital folder number: 4296309 image number: 00424 Household Gender Age Birthplace head William Sparks M 72y England daughter Neria Sparks F 39y United States son Alfred A Sparks M 34y United States father Edward W Tigue M 52y United States daughter Annie Tigue F 34y United States daughter Mamie Tigue F 31y United States daughter Maggie Tigue F 29y United States son Edward W Tigue M 21y United States son William P Tigue M 19y United States head John Trainor M 28y United States wife Mary A Trainor F 26y United States son Alfred Trainor M 2y United States boarder Lila Berry F 16y United States With the spelling, TRAINOR, I went back to HeritageQuest, and there are many more people with that name. But, I don't see an Alfred or Alexander in 1910. That's all I can offer this morning. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (on Lists and Boards for 11 yrs.; now an Admin for 10 Lists and 5 Boards) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JOHNCASSINARI Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/7549/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm at a dead end researching my paternal grandmother....Maria(Mary)Antonietta? Catalani. Her mother was Giulia Catalani. She immigrated to the US in 1919 and lived in Fitchburg Mass. Her husband was Joseph Raymond Cassinari and they lived in Fitchburg Massachusetts....Maria was born dec 10 1900 and died oct 31 1985. cannot find her father, who was not married to Giulia....she was born in italy, possibly lago maggiore or sagliano micca. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.