Hello, I just found out (4 am) :o) that this familyl hasn't been mentioned on the List for a while. I think my posting from 6 years ago summarizes it. I'll have to check the archives of the surname Lists to make sure there isn't updated information on the family: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/genmassachusetts/2002-11/1036842410 Gilbert and Mary (TOMPKINS) MANCHESTER came from families in Little Compton, RI. A long-time researcher in CT was trying to "prove" that Mary was descended from John ALDEN. I don't know if she succeeded. I just checked the archives of the Bristol Co. List and it shows the researchers "find" in 2002 - which shows Rhoda's parents as Gilbert and Mary. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/mabristo/2002-10/1035851505 This is the researchers posting from 2002 on the "Mayflower" List: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/mayflower/2002-11/1037759082 Just thought I would restart this discussion. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: My grandmother's long, complicated story has been told on this List many times. So, I'd like to say that, all her life (d1967), and up until 1997, no one knew who her birth-parents were. So, she was of an unknown heritage. IF a "true miracle" happens, and I can prove that John and Mary (CLARK) DEXTER, her adoptive parents were also her grandparents, than Mary's mother, Mrs. Rhoda (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK, was her great-grandmother. And, thus, my grandmother would have been descended from a "Mayflower" family - IF it has been proved. John and Mary DEXTER "knew" who her birth-father was, and they never told her. And, I have no way to find out. But, I believe a YOUNG professional genealogist was able to find out, but his family "won't talk." I believe that their daughter in CT, Mrs. Clara YOUNG had a pregnancy outside of her marriage. This also means that, if proven, my grandmother would have been descended from Rev. DEXTER, the patriarch, etc. (And, whichever patriarch / ancestor James CLARK/E was descended from.

Hi again, I just noticed I made a slight mistake yesterday. When James married Rhoda in Westport, MA, she was a widow, Mrs. Rhoda (MANCHESTER) LAVARE. Her first husband "died at sea" and they had 2 little sons and she was pregnant with their daughter at the time. Betty FYI: While I think of it, this is the story of Rhoda's parents, taken from a posting of mine 6 yrs. ago: Gilbert Manchester* was born in 1766 in Little Compton, RI, and he was the son of Thomas MANCHESTER and Dorcas GIFFORD (of Little Compton, RI?). Mary TOMPKINS was born in 1763 and was the daughter of Micah TOMPKINS and Sarah DRING married in 1755 in Little Compton, RI. Gilbert and Mary married in 1788? in Little Compton, RI. At some point they moved to Westport, MA, as they were listed in the 1800 Census as living in Westport with 5 children, and their younger children were born there. So far, I have come up with the following for their possible children: Samuel Tompkins Manchester, born 1789 Otis Manchester, born 1795 Hannah Manchester, born 1797 Calvin Manchester, born 1800 Rhoda Manchester, born 1800 Elizabeth Manchester, born 1805 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/genmassachusetts/2002-11/1036842410 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: "Carol White" <cahwhite@comcast.net>; <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Alden and Mullens > Hi Carol, > > James CLARK is one of my "concrete-block walls put together with > reinforced cement." He was probably born in the 1790 to 1800 > timeframe - somewhere. > > He "appeared" in Little Compton, RI, in ~1827, and married Rhoda > MANCHESTER (b1800) in nearby Westport, MA, in 1829. He fathered a > daughter there in 1836, and "disappeared" during the 1840's. He might > have been the James CLARK who got on a ship in New Bedford, MA, as a > greenhand in 1844. The ship was heading out to a 4-year voyage to the > Indian Ocean. James deserted in Australia in 1845. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: redrebecca81 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/1933.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe your father is my grandfathers brother. I am going to get exact dates and things I can for you, I just happen to stumble on this. "Tony" Antonio Ferrini was my grandfathers name. Brockton MA is where is lived and raised his family. He was a barber there and had his own shop. He married my grandmother Ana. They had 9 children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Dale. I appreciate your updating me. My birth for Elizabeth was a typo as I did have it correctly in my facts, ca 1624. Glad to have it brought to my attention.>:) Lynde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" <radiotest@plymouthcolony.net> To: <GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Alden and Mullens > At 02:14 PM 12/1/2008, Lynde C. Randall wrote: > >>1 JOHN [MF] ALDEN b: 1599 in Harwich, Essex, England d: 12 Dec 1687 in >>Duxbury, Plymouth, MA ae 88 > > Let me point out a few corrections. John died on 12-Sep-1687, not > 12-Dec. The only contemporary record of his death is in the diary of > Judge Samuel Sewall, who in 1687 wrote "Monday, Sept. 12. Mr. John > Alden, the ancient Magistrate of Plimouth, died." ["Diary of Samuel > Sewall, 1674-1729" in Collections of the Massachusetts Historical > Society, 5th Series, Vols. 5, 6 & 7, 1878-82; specifically 5:190]. It > is likely that he died in Duxbury, as he had lived there for decades. > >>.. +PRISCILLA [MF] MULLINS b: 1602 in Dorking, Surrey, England m: 12 May >>1623 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA d: 1680 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA > > The date of the marriage of John and Priscilla is not known. It was > certainly prior to the division of land in 1623 [PCR 12:3-6; MD, 1 > [1899]:227-230]. > > The year of Priscilla's death is not known. She was with John at > Josiah Winslow's funeral in 1680, but died before John, as she was > not mentioned in the 1687 settlement of his estate [MD 3:10-12]. It > is likely that she died in Duxbury, as she and John had lived there > for decades. > >>.... 2 ELIZABETH ALDEN b: 1644 d: 31 May 1717 in Little Compton, Newport, >>RI >>........ +WILLIAM PEABODY /Pabodie b: 1620 in St. Albans, Hertshire, >>England >>m: 26 Dec 1644 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 13 Dec 1707 in Little Compton, >>Newport Newport Co., RI > > Note that Elizabeth could not have been born in 1644 if she was > married on 26-Dec-1644. She was likely born about 1624, and the first > of the Alden children, in order to have married in 1644. Her > gravestone at Little Compton says that she died "in the 94th year of > her age" [NEHGR 115:263] which supports a birth about 1624. > > I do > > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; > Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project > Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1mBf8K3ZInvbwz42Jvi1RP1By5uaoZn1hhCLcQ0M8kADCNE/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

At 02:14 PM 12/1/2008, Lynde C. Randall wrote: >1 JOHN [MF] ALDEN b: 1599 in Harwich, Essex, England d: 12 Dec 1687 in >Duxbury, Plymouth, MA ae 88 Let me point out a few corrections. John died on 12-Sep-1687, not 12-Dec. The only contemporary record of his death is in the diary of Judge Samuel Sewall, who in 1687 wrote "Monday, Sept. 12. Mr. John Alden, the ancient Magistrate of Plimouth, died." ["Diary of Samuel Sewall, 1674-1729" in Collections of the Massachusetts Historical Society, 5th Series, Vols. 5, 6 & 7, 1878-82; specifically 5:190]. It is likely that he died in Duxbury, as he had lived there for decades. >.. +PRISCILLA [MF] MULLINS b: 1602 in Dorking, Surrey, England m: 12 May >1623 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA d: 1680 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA The date of the marriage of John and Priscilla is not known. It was certainly prior to the division of land in 1623 [PCR 12:3-6; MD, 1 [1899]:227-230]. The year of Priscilla's death is not known. She was with John at Josiah Winslow's funeral in 1680, but died before John, as she was not mentioned in the 1687 settlement of his estate [MD 3:10-12]. It is likely that she died in Duxbury, as she and John had lived there for decades. >.... 2 ELIZABETH ALDEN b: 1644 d: 31 May 1717 in Little Compton, Newport, RI >........ +WILLIAM PEABODY /Pabodie b: 1620 in St. Albans, Hertshire, England >m: 26 Dec 1644 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 13 Dec 1707 in Little Compton, >Newport Newport Co., RI Note that Elizabeth could not have been born in 1644 if she was married on 26-Dec-1644. She was likely born about 1624, and the first of the Alden children, in order to have married in 1644. Her gravestone at Little Compton says that she died "in the 94th year of her age" [NEHGR 115:263] which supports a birth about 1624. I do not know of any contemporary record giving the place of birth of William Pabodie. His gravestone at Little Compton says that he died in his 88th year, so he was born about 1619 [NEHGR 115:263]. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1mBf8K3ZInvbwz42Jvi1RP1By5uaoZn1hhCLcQ0M8kADCNE/

Hi Everyone, One of my Mayflower lines is also John Alden. Descendants of JOHN [MF] ALDEN 1 JOHN [MF] ALDEN b: 1599 in Harwich, Essex, England d: 12 Dec 1687 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA ae 88 .. +PRISCILLA [MF] MULLINS b: 1602 in Dorking, Surrey, England m: 12 May 1623 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA d: 1680 in Plymouth, Plymouth, MA .... 2 ELIZABETH ALDEN b: 1644 d: 31 May 1717 in Little Compton, Newport, RI ........ +WILLIAM PEABODY /Pabodie b: 1620 in St. Albans, Hertshire, England m: 26 Dec 1644 in Duxbury, Plymouth, MA d: 13 Dec 1707 in Little Compton, Newport Newport Co., RI Lynde C. Randall **************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allyssa Edwards" <edbatch@gmail.com> To: "genmassachusetts" <GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Alden and Mullens my own personal lines descend from John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS as well. > By 2 lines. Their daughters Ruth ALDEN who married John BASS, and Sarah > ALDEN who married Alexander STANDISH... both women are my 10th great > grandmothers. > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Carol White <cahwhite@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Just for your info. I'm descended from John Alden and Priscilla Mullins >> through their daughter Elizabeth who married William , then >> Grinnell, then Redfield for many generations and then finally to Hawks >> and Clark which was my mother's maiden name. Who was Rhoda Clark's >> husband whom you might be descended from? >> >> Carol >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Greetings Listers, While working on the NEHGS MVR 1841-1910 on-line database, www.newenglandancestors.org, I came across an entry with the town listed as Roxbury, when it is actually was Duxbury. I'll try and spend some time looking for more of these errors, but just in case you couldn't find either a Roxbury or Duxbury entry, do try the other town in your search. Please let Dale Cook or I know about any error you find. Sue Richart NEHGS Volunteer

Hi Carol, James CLARK is one of my "concrete-block walls put together with reinforced cement." He was probably born in the 1790 to 1800 timeframe - somewhere. He "appeared" in Little Compton, RI, in ~1827, and married Rhoda MANCHESTER (b1800) in nearby Westport, MA, in 1829. He fathered a daughter there in 1836, and "disappeared" during the 1840's. He might have been the James CLARK who got on a ship in New Bedford, MA, as a greenhand in 1844. The ship was heading out to a 4-year voyage to the Indian Ocean. James deserted in Australia in 1845. There was a James CLARK on a ship in the St. Lawrence River (P.Q.) in 1825. IF these are all the same man, he was a "travelin' man." I have a hunch that he was from a New England family, but no one has claimed him as part of a family. This is a long, complicated story which I've told on the Lists before, but near the end of the story James CLARK's daughter, Mary Anna CLARK, as a married woman, Mrs. John DEXTER from Killingly, CT, moved to Melrose, MA, and adopted a little girl. That little girl was my grandmother, and my "educated guess" is that they were her grandparents. I can offer more on Rhoda, but I'll have to go retrieve it from the archives. Betty (When my grandmother married in 1911, she listed her birth father as William CLARK. I have no idea who this man was, but it is another hint that the CLARK family was known to her as a teen-ager.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol White" <cahwhite@comcast.net> To: <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Alden and Mullens > Just for your info. I'm descended from John Alden and Priscilla Mullins > through their daughter Elizabeth who married William Pabodie, then > Grinnell, then Redfield for many generations and then finally to Hawks and > Clark which was my mother's maiden name. Who was Rhoda Clark's husband > whom you might be descended from? > > Carol > > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:36:14 -0500 >> From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> >> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] LONGFELLOW descendants (WADSWORTH, >> APPLETON) >> To: <genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <64A4EC5C1FB54C5AB18742DA6E655B8E@LivingRoom> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello, >> >> This morning on the daily "Mass Moments" note it discusses the famous >> author, Henry Wadsworth LONGFELLOW (1807-1882). The article says he >> had 6 children, so he must have had many descendants. Does that name >> still exist in New England? And, it says his mother was descended from >> "the Pilgrims," including John ALDEN. But it doesn't mention his >> parents' names. >> >> http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=343 >> >> Oh, this site says his parents were Stephen LONGFELLOW and Zilpah >> WADSWORTH, and he grew up in the (now) WADSWORTH-LONGFELLOW House. His >> grandfather was Peleg WADSWORTH, a general in the Rev. War. Henry was >> one of 8 children. He and Frances APPLETON had 6 children. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wadsworth_Longfellow >> >> Just an FYI for you. But, it's curious that these surnames are very >> rarely seen on the Lists. >> >> And, this page talks about John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS, and that >> they had 10 children survive to adulthood, and they had many notable >> descendants. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden_(Pilgrim) >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >> P.S. >> >> A researcher in CT has been trying to prove that her ancestor, Mrs. >> Rhoda (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK, with parents a MANCHESTER / TOMPKINS >> couple from Westport, MA (and RI) were Mayflower descedants. And, I >> think she said that the mother was descended from John ALDEN. >> >> She is descended from a LAVARE son, and I "think" that I am descended >> from Rhoda's CLARK daughter. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >

Sent off list to Allyssa -----Original Message----- From: genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allyssa Edwards Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:55 PM To: genmassachusetts Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] 1930 Census - HOUNSELL - Boston area (Suffolk) I thought I already had this one, but apparently not, as I cannot find the image in my files. I am seeking the family of Philip HOUNSELL and his wife Sarah (McGonagle) Children: John Francis HOUNSELL b 1911 Cecelia Marie HOUNSELL b 1913 James W b 1915 Philip C b 1917 Clara b after 1920 They would likely be in the Boston area. I'd appreciate the help on this, especially the image, but the info would be helpful too. I need especially the info on Clara approx age. Thanks :) -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am house-bound, so can only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) http://branches.fieryangel.net/leaves (very old but it lists some of the lookups I can do) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

my own personal lines descend from John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS as well. By 2 lines. Their daughters Ruth ALDEN who married John BASS, and Sarah ALDEN who married Alexander STANDISH... both women are my 10th great grandmothers. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Carol White <cahwhite@comcast.net> wrote: > Just for your info. I'm descended from John Alden and Priscilla Mullins > through their daughter Elizabeth who married William Pabodie, then > Grinnell, then Redfield for many generations and then finally to Hawks > and Clark which was my mother's maiden name. Who was Rhoda Clark's > husband whom you might be descended from? > > Carol > >

I thought I already had this one, but apparently not, as I cannot find the image in my files. I am seeking the family of Philip HOUNSELL and his wife Sarah (McGonagle) Children: John Francis HOUNSELL b 1911 Cecelia Marie HOUNSELL b 1913 James W b 1915 Philip C b 1917 Clara b after 1920 They would likely be in the Boston area. I'd appreciate the help on this, especially the image, but the info would be helpful too. I need especially the info on Clara approx age. Thanks :) -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am house-bound, so can only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) http://branches.fieryangel.net/leaves (very old but it lists some of the lookups I can do)

Just for your info. I'm descended from John Alden and Priscilla Mullins through their daughter Elizabeth who married William Pabodie, then Grinnell, then Redfield for many generations and then finally to Hawks and Clark which was my mother's maiden name. Who was Rhoda Clark's husband whom you might be descended from? Carol > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:36:14 -0500 > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] LONGFELLOW descendants (WADSWORTH, > APPLETON) > To: <genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <64A4EC5C1FB54C5AB18742DA6E655B8E@LivingRoom> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello, > > This morning on the daily "Mass Moments" note it discusses the famous > author, Henry Wadsworth LONGFELLOW (1807-1882). The article says he had > 6 children, so he must have had many descendants. Does that name still > exist in New England? And, it says his mother was descended from "the > Pilgrims," including John ALDEN. But it doesn't mention his parents' > names. > > http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=343 > > Oh, this site says his parents were Stephen LONGFELLOW and Zilpah WADSWORTH, > and he grew up in the (now) WADSWORTH-LONGFELLOW House. His grandfather > was Peleg WADSWORTH, a general in the Rev. War. Henry was one of 8 > children. He and Frances APPLETON had 6 children. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wadsworth_Longfellow > > Just an FYI for you. But, it's curious that these surnames are very rarely > seen on the Lists. > > And, this page talks about John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS, and that they > had 10 children survive to adulthood, and they had many notable descendants. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden_(Pilgrim) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > P.S. > > A researcher in CT has been trying to prove that her ancestor, Mrs. Rhoda > (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK, with parents a MANCHESTER / TOMPKINS couple > from Westport, MA (and RI) were Mayflower descedants. And, I think she > said that the mother was descended from John ALDEN. > > She is descended from a LAVARE son, and I "think" that I am descended from > Rhoda's CLARK daughter. > > > > > >

My cousins are descended from the famed couple by their daughter Ruth who married John Bass. They still bear the Bass surname. Kathy P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol White" <cahwhite@comcast.net> To: <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Alden and Mullens > Just for your info. I'm descended from John Alden and Priscilla Mullins > through their daughter Elizabeth who married William Pabodie, then > Grinnell, then Redfield for many generations and then finally to Hawks > and Clark which was my mother's maiden name. Who was Rhoda Clark's > husband whom you might be descended from? > > Carol > > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:36:14 -0500 >> From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> >> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] LONGFELLOW descendants (WADSWORTH, >> APPLETON) >> To: <genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <64A4EC5C1FB54C5AB18742DA6E655B8E@LivingRoom> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello, >> >> This morning on the daily "Mass Moments" note it discusses the famous >> author, Henry Wadsworth LONGFELLOW (1807-1882). The article says he >> had >> 6 children, so he must have had many descendants. Does that name >> still >> exist in New England? And, it says his mother was descended from "the >> Pilgrims," including John ALDEN. But it doesn't mention his parents' >> names. >> >> http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=343 >> >> Oh, this site says his parents were Stephen LONGFELLOW and Zilpah >> WADSWORTH, >> and he grew up in the (now) WADSWORTH-LONGFELLOW House. His >> grandfather >> was Peleg WADSWORTH, a general in the Rev. War. Henry was one of 8 >> children. He and Frances APPLETON had 6 children. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wadsworth_Longfellow >> >> Just an FYI for you. But, it's curious that these surnames are very >> rarely >> seen on the Lists. >> >> And, this page talks about John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS, and that >> they >> had 10 children survive to adulthood, and they had many notable >> descendants. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden_(Pilgrim) >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >> P.S. >> >> A researcher in CT has been trying to prove that her ancestor, Mrs. >> Rhoda >> (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK, with parents a MANCHESTER / TOMPKINS couple >> from Westport, MA (and RI) were Mayflower descedants. And, I think >> she >> said that the mother was descended from John ALDEN. >> >> She is descended from a LAVARE son, and I "think" that I am descended >> from >> Rhoda's CLARK daughter. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6865.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok Thanks for the new info. I'll review it and see what I can find. Lots of John Smith's out there and need to find one with father Albert. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: runair88 Surnames: Smith, Button Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6865.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the 1880 census,John was a boarder with the Button family in Machias and working as a stone mason. The same census said John and his parents were all born in MA.I doubt that he and his family lived in NY City.-------------Terry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings Listers, If you have been hunting for Harrington (Margaret to Peter) and Kelly (Ann to Catie) marriages for the 1881-1885 time frame on www.newenglandancestors.org , I've corrected the page numbers for the Harringtons and added page numbers for the Kellys. As a Burke with Kelly and Murphy lines also, I know it is hard enough tracking those folks down without dealing with wrong and/or missing page numbers. For the Bristol listers, I'm posting tips on using the NEHGS MVR 1841-1910 database on GenMassachusetts and MASUFFOLK lists. If you go to the archives, you can just query my email or the subject line containing "NEHGS MVR 1841-1910 Tip" on either list to see them. Also, please note, a lot of 1910 death images were recently added. Sam Sturgis, one of the NEHGS webmasters, is getting missing images reports from the contractor and is starting to digitize the FHL microfilm pages to add to the database. As I finish a volume, he is also adding the missing images for that volume, so we will get as complete an image collection as possible. Unfortunately, if the images were in bad shape or missing when the FHL microfilmed them back in the 70's, they will still be missing. Finally, if you do spot the page number shown as "??" in your search, please send me the information, so they can be corrected. Best of luck in your search. Sue Richart NEHGS Volunteer repairing the MVR 1841-1910 on-line database

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6865.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This may be your guy in 1880 NOTE: Bith of father etc. 1880 United States Federal Census about John C. Smith Name: John C. Smith Home in 1880: Olean, Cattaraugus, New York Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of Household: Something other than a direct relationship (Other) Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: England Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Boiler Maker Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Cannot read/write: Blind: Deaf and dumb: Otherwise disabled: Idiotic or insane: View Image Household Members: Name Age Mary Bourk 39 Charles T. Bourk 17 Anna M. Bourk 16 Henry Bourk 11 John Dillon 83 Kate Murfey 20 Nellie Malony 23 Anna Shehan 19 Emil Murer 14 Timothy Dermody 23 John Kane 18 John H. Smith 20 Dennis Leary 21 Robert F. Farrell 29 John Donhew 33 John Hartneet 23 George A. Bross 24 Wm. L. Nichols 20 Austin Hinds 28 James Myers 20 Henry Kernan 22 John Haley 39 Dennis Lane 59 Dennis Ryan 38 James Flanagan 24 Patrick Connell 45 Philip Mc Laughlin 29 John Bolan 38 James Benson 22 John Nevals 17 John Evans 23 Frederick Musshag 28 Edward Reateal 16 Dennis Coughlin 29 John C. Smith 32 Wm. J. Flanagan 26 Thomas P. Richards 22 John L. Ford 24 John W. Burns 20 John Hayes 18 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6865.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi: Do you have further information on John Smith and why you think he was born in MA I find in 1850 and later census of a John or John C. with parents Albert and Cornelia living in NY.Here is a sample. 1870 Federal Census about John Smith Name: John Smith Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Age in 1870: 21 Birthplace: New York Home in 1870: Brooklyn Ward 17, Kings, New York Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Green Point Household Members: Name Age Albert Smith 50 Cornelia Smith 51 John Smith 21 Clarence Smith 18 Augustus Smith 15 Armiste Smith 14 Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Brooklyn Ward 17, Kings, New York; Roll: M593_958; Page: 54; Image: 109. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

At 07:36 AM 11/29/2008, Betty wrote: >Does that name still exist in New England? Betty - I am certain that it does. I find 41 Longfellow families in the 1920 census in Massachusetts. >His grandfather >was Peleg WADSWORTH, a general in the Rev. War. Peleg was a descendant of John Alden (Peleg Wadsworth, Mercy Wiswall, Priscilla Pabodie, Elizabeth Alden, John Alden). Peleg's wife was Elizabeth Bartlett, a descendant of John Howland (Elizabeth Lathrop, Elizabeth Gorham, James Gorham, Desire Howland, John Howland). Peleg was of Duxbury, and Elizabeth of Plymouth, when their intention was published at Plymouth 09-May-1772 [MD 27:45; Plymouth VR 260]. They were also listed as of those towns when they were married 18-Jun-1772 [Plymouth VR 360; Duxbury VR 326]. Note that there are other Mayflower surnames in the ancestry of this couple, including Samson and Bartlett, which indicate there may be other Mayflower ancestors for the poet. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRI59ZIRNAb6GV910hNnp1n4c6RpQPQLCW3PPnrSapvvMb/

Hello, This morning on the daily "Mass Moments" note it discusses the famous author, Henry Wadsworth LONGFELLOW (1807-1882). The article says he had 6 children, so he must have had many descendants. Does that name still exist in New England? And, it says his mother was descended from "the Pilgrims," including John ALDEN. But it doesn't mention his parents' names. http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=343 Oh, this site says his parents were Stephen LONGFELLOW and Zilpah WADSWORTH, and he grew up in the (now) WADSWORTH-LONGFELLOW House. His grandfather was Peleg WADSWORTH, a general in the Rev. War. Henry was one of 8 children. He and Frances APPLETON had 6 children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wadsworth_Longfellow Just an FYI for you. But, it's curious that these surnames are very rarely seen on the Lists. And, this page talks about John ALDEN and Priscilla MULLINS, and that they had 10 children survive to adulthood, and they had many notable descendants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Alden_(Pilgrim) Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. A researcher in CT has been trying to prove that her ancestor, Mrs. Rhoda (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK, with parents a MANCHESTER / TOMPKINS couple from Westport, MA (and RI) were Mayflower descedants. And, I think she said that the mother was descended from John ALDEN. She is descended from a LAVARE son, and I "think" that I am descended from Rhoda's CLARK daughter.