John Adams, President of the U.S. Source: Bond's Watertown. 2. Abigail Smith b. 1744; d. 1818; m. Feb 24, 1764, John Adams, President of the United States, b. Oct. 19, 1735; died July 4, 1826, son of Deacon John Adams & his wife Susanna (Boylston) Adams. She was a great honour to her sex and to her country. [read David McCullough's John Adams: ISBN 0684-81363-7. Simon & Schuster.] Children: 1. Abigail Adams b. July 14, 1765; m. the Honorable William Smith of of New York. 2. John Quincy Adams, b. July 11, 1767; died 1849; President of the United States; m. Catherine Louisa Johnson, dau. of Joshua Johnson of Maryland. She died 1852. 3. Susanna Adams, b. Dec. 28, 1768. 4. Charles Adams who grad. Harvard Coll. 1789; a lawyer of New York; m. Sarah Smith, dau. of John Smith, Esq., of New York; where he died, aged 30 years. 5. Thomas Boylston Adams b. Sept 15, 1772; d. Mar. 12, 1832; grad. Harvard Coll. 1790; was Chief Justice of Court of Common Pleas, in Mass. He m. Ann, the dau. of Joseph Harrod of Haverhill, Mass. [see also Thayer's Family Memorial, p.41. 3. Elizabeth Smith who m. Rev. John Shaw of Haverhill, Mass. He grad. Harvard Coll. 1772. Children: 1. William Smith Shaw b. Aug 12, 1778; grad Harvard Coll. 1798; d. 1826, unmarried. He was the principal founder of the Boston Athenaeum. 2. Elizabeth Quincy Shaw b. May 26, 1780; d. Dec 8, 1795. 3. Abigail Adams Shaw who m. Rev. Jospeh Barlow Felt of Boston; grad. Dartmouth Coll. 1813; Librarian of the Massachusetts Historical Society; deservedly distinguished for his antiquarian and historical researches. Rev. John Shaw died 1794 and his widow, Elizabeth (Smith) Shaw m. (2) Rev. Stephen Peabody of Atkinson, New Hampshire. She died April 9, 1815. Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lenaringbrant1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6899.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, that's right. Sophia also had a daughter Eva May born Dec 1889 in Nebraska. She is in the same 1900 census. Can you help me to find her? Can you find the day she was born? Louis and Sophia was born in Sweden. They and their brother Peter Benson born in Mar 1859. I think I've found him in Davenport, Scott, Iowa (census 1900) married to Eliza S Benson. They had no children at the age of 41, maybe they didn't get any. I can't find them in census 1910. I found out that Sophia's daughter Elsie had one son Robert Lowell and I think he's still alive in Cheshire,Conn. I'm going to write to him and ask. We have an old photo from US with a man and a wife and six children. We think that the people on the photo should be related to somebody of Sophia, her daughter Eva May or Louis Benson. I'm thankful for any help! Lena Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

-----Original Message----- From: genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale H. Cook Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:11 PM To: genmassachusetts Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Birth of President John Adams? At 08:42 PM 1/15/2009, Allyssa Edwards wrote: >I was just going through and filling in some of my Adams lines, and I notice >an inconsistency. I see in various online sources, the birth listed as >October 30 1735 in Quincy, Massachusetts. Now I know that online sources are >far from always reliable, but will the information running so rampantly, I >just want to know if there's a source to support this. In my own records, I >have him as being born October 19 1735 in Braintree, Mass. Allyssa - He was born in Braintree - Quincy wasn't incorporated until 1792. The date of 19-Oct-1735 from Braintree TR, p. 772, is correct. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________ 19 Oct 1735 was his birth date under the Old Style (Julian) calendar. That would be 30 Oct 1735 by today's (Gregorian) calendar. See the article on OS-NS dates in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Style_and_New_Style_dates Jim Bullock

At 08:42 PM 1/15/2009, Allyssa Edwards wrote: >I was just going through and filling in some of my Adams lines, and I notice >an inconsistency. I see in various online sources, the birth listed as >October 30 1735 in Quincy, Massachusetts. Now I know that online sources are >far from always reliable, but will the information running so rampantly, I >just want to know if there's a source to support this. In my own records, I >have him as being born October 19 1735 in Braintree, Mass. Allyssa - He was born in Braintree - Quincy wasn't incorporated until 1792. The date of 19-Oct-1735 from Braintree TR, p. 772, is correct. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Paying too much for your home? Click to refinance at a lower rate. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2QDxltUA0PgFEU4yIPugIuTJpGCoSiI4fbobffM7eQLDWTQ/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marinrice74 Surnames: Benson, Young Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6899.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know the names of Louis parents? Did he have a sister named Sophie born abt Feb 1868? If so it may be him in the 1900 census in West Springfield, MA. living with his sister Sophie Young (Feb. 1868, Stockholm, Sweden (Stockholm is according to daughter Elsie Clarinda birth record Sept 3, 1892 West Springfield, MA.)) who is married to a Lewis E. Young (b.1866 Maine). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I was just going through and filling in some of my Adams lines, and I notice an inconsistency. I see in various online sources, the birth listed as October 30 1735 in Quincy, Massachusetts. Now I know that online sources are far from always reliable, but will the information running so rampantly, I just want to know if there's a source to support this. In my own records, I have him as being born October 19 1735 in Braintree, Mass. The only sources I added to the file so far are the Braintree town records (which of course doesnt necessarily mean he was actually born IN Braintree, i know), but I also have "The Adams Family" by James Trunslow Adams, published 1930, which is a book I own, and got alot of info from. Can anyone tell me what the proper info is? If it's Oct 30, is there a source that can be named? I'm just curious. :) -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am house-bound, so can only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to ask. I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) http://branches.fieryangel.net/leaves (very old but it something)

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That is the right family. William and Catherine had the two boys. William John and Lewis Albert. Lewis was born 17 January 1895, so assume this is the birth that caused the death of Catherine in childbirth. William remarried in 1895 (Arlington # 452 Page 77) Mary Wallace. They had Gertrude born 25 May 1900. On the 1900 census the family are shown as living in Lexington. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale H. Cook" <radiotest@plymouthcolony.net> To: <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Missing birth records?? > At 10:46 AM 1/15/2009, Richard Noble wrote: > > >Yet none of those people show up in the Mass. birth records index?? > > > >Were people skipped, or do we have a transcription error?? > > I do not see any of them in the printed indices. > > The only Salter I find in Lexington is Catherine, wife of William, > who died in 1895 in childbirth, age 36, born in Ireland, daughter of > John Moriarty [MAVR 455:207]. > > She married William Salter 13-Apr-1890 at Concord. That record shows > her born at St. John, New Brunswick [MAVR 407:107]. > > Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; > Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project > Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > Want to put your personal touch on your home? Click for home improvement ideas and tips. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRIfIgdj6LVaXoXIe3dSlivkU oTliW7qMAjMcEOtZvyxJo/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1895 - Release Date: 1/15/2009 7:46 AM > >

At 10:46 AM 1/15/2009, Richard Noble wrote: >Yet none of those people show up in the Mass. birth records index?? > >Were people skipped, or do we have a transcription error?? I do not see any of them in the printed indices. The only Salter I find in Lexington is Catherine, wife of William, who died in 1895 in childbirth, age 36, born in Ireland, daughter of John Moriarty [MAVR 455:207]. She married William Salter 13-Apr-1890 at Concord. That record shows her born at St. John, New Brunswick [MAVR 407:107]. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net ____________________________________________________________ Want to put your personal touch on your home? Click for home improvement ideas and tips. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRIfIgdj6LVaXoXIe3dSlivkUoTliW7qMAjMcEOtZvyxJo/

Sue: Not sure if you would have the answer or not. According to the census records, and the WW1 Draft Registration cards, William John Salter was born 27 February 1893 at Lexington, Mass. His brother Lewis Albert Salter was born 17 January 1895 at the same place. Later their half sister Gertrude M. Salter was born 25 May 1900 (SSDI) Yet none of those people show up in the Mass. birth records index?? Were people skipped, or do we have a transcription error?? Ric

My Scot-Irish ancestor Robert McKOWN(sp) was at Sheepscot (Maine) and was captured in a raid and taken to Canada ca 1719. His father was killed in the raid. He could speak French, so I'm going to assume he was up there for an extended period. The McKown family may have been on the 5th boat that went to Maine 1718. I next find him at Boston in 1747 when he marries Margaret NICKLES, daughter of Capt. Alexander Nickles, last commander at Fort Frederick. Robert and Alexander are mentioned online as traders and fishermen on the Passamaquoddy River. Robert McKown and brother John were both master mariners and merchants in the Boston area in nthe mid 1700s. Robert died at Bristol (Maine) 1777 and left a sizable estate. My question is--has there been anything written on this family in The Register or any other genealogical publications? thanks charles

Gregoire Antonio C. Lowell 1907 571 549 Marriage Vol: 571 ; Page: 549 item 907, Oct. 14, 1907, Lowell, Antonio C. Gregoire, 25, 1st marriage, residing Lowell, clerk, born Canada, Deames Greoire & Marie Charland Hedwidge Chenard, 18, 1st marriage, residing Lowell, hosiery, born Lowell, Joseph Chenard & Marie Dumoud/Dunond, Victor Viaud, Priest, Lowell, recorded Oct. 31. Glad I found the right one! I did a soundex search for Hedwidge Chenard in Lowell and found nothing. The common spellings in the VR are Chouenard/Chouinard. Kathy in frigid WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Therese Gregoire" <teegreg42@hotmail.com> To: "Mass. List" <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] GENMASSACHUSETTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 17 Thanks to Kathy P. of Wisconsin. She did find the right Antonio in 1930. For the marriage info, what do the numbers after 1907 identify? (Gregoire, Antonio C. Lowell 1907 571 549 Marriage)? Is it possible to get an exact date? Thanks to the other researchers who tried. Someone asked about the name DAMASE. He was Antonio's father and his name is often misspelled. It's an old French name. English equivalent is Dismas. Sister Therese Gregoire

How do you spell MATTHEW OR MATHEW for a 1st or last name ? same with STEWART OR STUART many other names are spelt differently. thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle acbowne1@yahoo.com I will help with Seattle info researching BOWNE LORD BERG DOOLE TUCKER and more

I find the following;   1910 Lowell, Ward 6, Middlesex Co., MA Antoine Gregoire 52 b.1858 Can both parents born Can, weaver cotton mill, immgr.1905 Mary G. Gregoire (wife) 48 b.1862 Can, mother of 12 children/7living, married 29 years Henry Gregoire (son) 27, b.1883 Can, barber Hector Gregoire (son) 22 b.1888 Can, lineman with electricity company William Gregoire (son) 13 b.1897 Can Mabel Gregoire (dau) 9 b.1901 Can Angena Gregoire (dau) 4 b.1906 MA   1920 Lowell, Ward 6, Middlesex Co., MA Anthony Gregoire 60 b.Can Widowed, works in mill, naturalised 1907 Mabel Gregoire (dau) 18 b.Can works in mill, naturalised  1907 Angelina Gregoire (dau) 14 this census says born Canada   In 1920 I also find a Hector Gregoire  aged 38, wife Marie Louise age 34 children Irene 9 and Oscar 7mths.   I did not find Damase in any census, nor did I find Antoine, Anthony, Tony etc in 1930 census. Seems that Antoine's wife, Mary G. died between 1910 and 1920 at Lowell ~ have you found her death record?   A check of naturalisation records might be beneficial also...?   Good luck, Janice   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Therese Gregoire" Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] 1920 & 1930 census lookup please Need census look-ups please. Looking for info on Antonio or Tony Gregoire, 1930 census, Lowell or Somerville, MA Damase Gregoire, 1920 and 1930 census, in Lowell. ********snipped********

Thanks to Kathy P. of Wisconsin. She did find the right Antonio in 1930. For the marriage info, what do the numbers after 1907 identify? (Gregoire, Antonio C. Lowell 1907 571 549 Marriage)? Is it possible to get an exact date? Thanks to the other researchers who tried. Someone asked about the name DAMASE. He was Antonio's father and his name is often misspelled. It's an old French name. English equivalent is Dismas. Sister Therese Gregoire _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009

Greetings Listers, No surprise, when I start digging into something with the database I learn something new. I'm going to go back through the volumes I've done so far with amended records, because I now realize that the volume numbers for amended records continue into the 1900 to 1910 time frame. I hadn't looked at the 1900 to 1910 low volume numbers in that time frame, because of all the post-1902 individual death records with the same volume numbers. At least the amended record birth volumes do continue to at least 1910. As I've started going through the amended record volume numbers for births I'm correcting one or two entries per volume that actually should be a valid regular (viewable) volume number. As it is a slow process doing a Copy and Paste to a spreadsheet of 400-plus records, I've started with volumes in the 30s, but will be working my way back down and up from there. If you are curious about most of these volume number errors, they are mostly due to a number in the volume with a much lighter keystroke (for those young folks out there, I'm talking about a typewriter with a ribbon) that the scanning software did not see. Another portion are mis-scans of one of the numbers, 104 vice 404 for example. A very small percentage are typing errors where one number was skipped. Also, if the entry you are looking for is in a town with Family History Library microfilms of the vital records (Boston and Saugus would be two examples) and the correction occurred prior to the date the specific town record book was closed, then you can actually see the correction on the town's vital records. I checked the Saugus Vital Records microfilm on Tuesday and those corrections that I looked at usually had an indication as to the cause of the correction. In most cases, it was a disposition. In one, the doctor, who delivered the baby, informed the clerk of the error. A reminder, the volumes are sorted by town name in alphabetical order more or less. Page numbers should go up sequentially by year. Common is A to L or M to W, but nothing appears to be set in stone. Saugus entry page numbers should be prior to Shrewsbury, and Shrewsbury page numbes should be before Somerville page numbers, for example. The less part appears to when an event happened somewhere else. One odd thing about amended records you might see two town names or a town name and a country name in the town field. This means that if you query for the town the record will NOT come up. I would strongly suggest that when you find what you think is an amended record, take the time to specifically query for the surname and the year without an entry in the town field. Both entries may be amended records, but you might get a clue as to where the event occurred from the second entry. As always, you may email me directly to check the index. I do have images of most of the 203 index volumes and can get a digitized page of the index pages I am missing. I have a request in for the rest of them, but, and rightfully so, Sam Sturgis is working on the actual missing, misidentified, or poorly scanned registration pages first. Sue Richart NEHGS Volunteer

Sister Gregoire, A reference to 571 549 is referring specifically to the Massachusetts State Archives Vital Records 1841-1910 records. The 571 is the volume number and 549 is the page number. In this case, she is talking about the NEHGS on-line database. I'll get a copy of the image and send it to you. Sue Richart On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Therese Gregoire wrote: > > Thanks to Kathy P. of Wisconsin. She did find the right Antonio in 1930. > For the marriage info, what do the numbers after 1907 identify? > (Gregoire, Antonio C. Lowell 1907 571 549 Marriage)? Is it possible to > get an exact date? > Thanks to the other researchers who tried. > Someone asked about the name DAMASE. He was Antonio's father and his name > is often misspelled. It's an old French name. English equivalent is Dismas. > Sister Therese Gregoire >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lenaringbrant1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6899.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your answer, but can I do that from Sweden? Someone have told me that it's not possible to send for this application anymore. Is that correct? If I can get the original social security application, does it shows if he had any family? Lena Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hogiemax Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6809.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your information. I found the Rowley Public Library helped some. Also the census' helped. But it is difficult when you have no birth, parents etc. I have been at this for twelve years on and off. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.