This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carol santos Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6912.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841-1910 Graham Carrie C. Boston 1903 539 85 Marriage may 8 1903 age 27/housekk\eeper/b new brunswick/john h graham & matilda thompson/ first marriage nelson p shabott age 40/engineer/ b littleton n.h./joseph shabott & mary plant/ 3rd marriage Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carol santos Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6911.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Massachusetts Vital Records, 1841-1910 Clark Elizabeth Louise Somerville year 1896 vol 461 page 350 Marriage march 25 1896 age 18/dressmaker/b montreal ca./parents donald & annie (Mc neary) first marriage nelson paul shabott/age 33/engineer/montreal ca/joseph & mary (plant) seccond marriage rev thomas atkins somerville, ma Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jnewcomb1974 Surnames: PACHECO, SOARES, MUNIZ, STANEADE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6913/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Mattos PACHECO and Maria Piadade (SOARES)PACHECO were were born in Portugal and I believe immigrated abt 1906 (according to census records). They were settled in Somerville, MA when they were married abt 1910 and moved to FL sometime after 1930. Their parents were as follows (all assumed born in Portugal): John Mattos PACHECO son of Henry J. PACHECO and Mary MUNIZ. Maria Piadade SOARES dau. of Joseph SOARES (or SUAREZ)and Mary STANEADE. I do not know if either parents of JM and MP PACHECO immigrated to the US but thought they might have with their children since JM and MP were married in Mass., not Portugal. If anyone has any link to these people please contact me! Jennifer orca456@verizon.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: luderbug Surnames: Graham, clark, shabott/chabott/chabot/shabot Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6912/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone has info on Carrie C. Graham, who would have wed Nelson Paul Shabott/Chabott/Shabbot/Chabot in 1903? I assume she died before 1910, as he was married to someone else on the census. i guess it's likely they divorced also, since he had already divorced the 2nd wife. The first wife passed away, and Carrie is the 3rd. I don't know if there were any children from the marriage. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: luderbug Surnames: Clark, Shabott/chabott, Huckins/Huchins, Graham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6911/mb.ashx Message Board Post: seeking info on an elizabeth louise clark, who was married to Nelson Paul Shabott/Chabott (various other spellings) around 1896. They divorced shortly thereafter. Can anyone lookup info on the divorce? I have no specific date, but as he was married again by 1903, it will be between then and 1896. Would also like to see the marriage license, if anyone has a copy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi again, I forgot to check the WorldConnect Project. A researcher posted about the FAIRSERVICE family there. The researcher said: Elizabeth was born on 3/29/1746 in Boston, and was baptised at the New North Church. And it says on the page that her parents were: James FAIRSERVICE, born May 1692 in Lanarkshire, Scotland, and Isabella (unknown). And it says that James' parents were John FAIRSERVICE, born "before 1675" and Margaret MILLER. www.rootsweb.com WorldConnect Project Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: A reminder from the paragraph of the "LORING book," that David LORING probably died before 1778, and "Elizabeth survived him and married second Nov. 2, 1778 Thomas FENNEN (FENECY), whom she also outlived, and married March 22, 1798, Capt. Thomas Jenner CARNES. She made her will (residing at West Cambridge) Aug. 6, 1802, ........ and she died Aug. 16."

Hello, I've been thinking about my ancestors, David LORING and Elizabeth FAIRSERVICE this week. I've found their marriage mentioned several times this morning, in on-line records: Feb. 2, 176(4), by Rev. BYLES in Boston, MA. There is very limited information on-line on the FAIRSERVICE name. In regards to the 1700's in New England, there might have been a family in "Maine" and one in MA, and possibly a couple of families in the Province of Quebec. One record on-line has Elizabeth being born in 1750 in Boston, MA. But, if she married in 1764, she would have only been 13 or 14. A better birth year would be 1740. I checked census records and find: FAIRSERVICE, ROBT (1790 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , SUFFOLK, BOSTON Series: M637 Roll: 4 Page: 52 FAIRSERVICE, JOHN (1790 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , SUFFOLK, BOSTON Series: M637 Roll: 4 Page: 53 FAIRSERVICE, JOHN (1790 U.S. Census) MAINE , LINCOLN, POWNALBOROUGH Series: M637 Roll: 2 Page: 254 FAIRSERVICE, THOMAS (1790 U.S. Census) MAINE , LINCOLN, POWNALBOROUGH Series: M637 Roll: 2 Page: 254 So there were people in New England in 1700's. By 1880 there were only 15 people with the name in the US. And other sites say that some of the families came from Ireland and Scotland. But, the 1881 England and Canada census pages show more people with the name at that time - in those places. It is strange that several people have posted information on the David LORING / Elizabeth FAIRSERVICE marriage and family. But, none I find mention Elizabeth's parents and birth, etc. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (One record on-line mentioned a daughter, Sarah Hutchinson LORING married in 1793 in Boston to David BASS. One of the HUTCHINSON descendants was named, Dr. Leslie "Loring" HUTCHINSON, so there was a strong connection between the families.) (Reminder that Elizabeth LORING and Jacob HOMER's daughter, Betsey, married Thomas HUTCHINSON.)

Hi, I am trying to find my KNOX ancestors. Benjamin Franklin KNOX b.7.22.1823 in Dorchester MA. His father Samuel KNOX (b. 2.27.1788 D. 11.7.1837) was from New Hampshire, married Elizabeth Howard RANDALL.  Any information on the above would be appreciated.   Bob Girling rkgirling@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlsonjm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I thank you again for your efforts. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Someone has gotten me started thinking about my LORING ancestor, which I haven't done for a long time. I just discovered that the "LORING book" is now on-line at Google / Books. I'd like to offer this paragraph from that book. See below. I believe a few years ago I mentioned my ancestor, Mrs. Elizabeth (LORING) (HOMER) (WINNECK) WELLINGTON. She was born in 1766 to David LORING and Elizabeth FAIRSERVICE. One question which has come up is about the FAIRSERVICE name. I'm not finding anything on-line for this name in regards to the 1700's New England. And there is no List, and the Board has only 2 postings. (No Board at www.genforum.com either.) Has anyone come up with information about it? Also, I have read this afternoon that there is more information on the Mrs. WELLINGTON, above. If you go to the WELLINGTON Boards, you will see that researchers have her having a total of 9 children. With Jacob HOMER, she had a daughter, Betsey. With Mr. WINNECK she had 4 children before divorcing him, and then she had 4 children with Mr. WELLINGTON. Betsey HOMER married Thomas HUTCHINSON, and thus she is my ancestor. Also, Elizabeth LORING's first husband was Capt. Jacob HOMER. From memory, he was a mariner and he died at sea before their daughter was born. I'm pretty sure I discussed him on the Lists several years ago, but I'm not finding my old postings today. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: 24. David' Loring (David*, Benjamin3, Benjamin*, Thomas1), born at Hull August 19,1742; married February 2, 1764, Elizabeth Fairservice; she survived him and married second November 2, 1778, Thomas Fennen (Fenecy), whom she also outlived, and married March 22, 1798, Capt. Thomas Jenner Carnes. She made her will (residing at West Cambridge) August 6, 1802, bequeathing to "my 3 grandchildren Eliza, Nathaniel* and David Loring and their mother Sarah." She died August 16, 1802. He was a shoemaker; sealer of leather for the town of Boston in 1769, made many shoes for the soldiers of the British army quartered there. Among the depositions taken by the city of Boston relative to the " Massacre" of March 5, 1770, is one by him, expressing the view that the soldiers of the 29th regiment were " a set of bloodthirsty men," quoting the remark of a soldier of that regiment that "it was a planned thing a month before." He sailed in the privateer Sturdy Decke1; Captain Campbell, in 1777, with one hundred men, which took several prizes but was lost in 1778 on the coast of France. The exact date of his death is therefore not known. Children: i. Elizabeth8, b. Apr. 10,1766; m. (1) Capt. Jacob Homer; m. (2) Mr. Winneck of Vermont; m. (3) Col. Jeduthun Wellington, of W. Cambridge. 280. ii. David, b. in 1768. 'Nathaniel, perhaps a clerical error, unless a twin of David. .iii. Sarah H., b. in 1770; m. (1) May 16, 1793, William Bass; m. (2) Nov. 14, 1802, Oliver Steefe, of New Haven. iv. Mary (mentioned in grandfather's will.) v. Hannah (mentioned in grandfather's will.)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CBlaisdell8854 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joan, I did check before and after the date, I just checked your list and only 1 has an image of a marriage instead of a birth, but the rest of the list had wrong parents names. That one is Dennis Bartholomew Connolly, Boston 1884. I'll keep looking but it will be very trying looking for Irish in MA at that time. I have a brick wall with my husband's grandmother I have been trying to find for 16 years now without any luck. Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlsonjm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the site, Carol. Do you have a subscription to the site? Are these the entries you checked?: Connell Bartholomew Joseph Weymouth 1884 350 335 Birth Connelly Bartholomew Boston 1879 306 32 Birth Connelly Bartholomew Boston 1879 306 101 Birth Connelly Bartholomew Boston 1881 324 209 Birth Connelly Bartholomew Boston 1881 324 90 Birth Conners Bartholomew Northbridge 1878 297 311 Birth Conners Bartholomew Spencer 1879 306 328 Birth Connolly Bartholomew Woburn 1881 323 247 Birth Connolly Dennis Bartholomew Boston 1884 351 227 Birth Conolly Bartholomew Salem 1878 295 286 Birth I expanded the age range a little, just in case. I don't think Bart would be in the 1880 census since he wasn't born until October. I haven't tried to find his parents in 1870, but will do so today. And maybe I should look at immigrations again, concentrating on the port of Boston. Thanks again. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CBlaisdell8854 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joan, The NEHGS has a site that has BMD on line to 1841-1910. It is a paid site. The BMD have the images. The State of MA Archives has the information on line, but no images. Go to www.sec.state.ma.us/index.htm Scroll down to Massachusetts Archive (right side) click on, next page - Vital Records click on, next page - Index go to bottom - Search. I'll try to find him in the censuses and see what I can find. Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlsonjm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to put together a family tree for an acquaintance. This is the information has been passed down in his family, and it agrees with the 1900 census, when Bart was in Iowa. Acc'd to that census, he was born in Mass. in Aug 1880. No other siblings are known, and it is thought that Bart was young when his parents died and he lived with an aunt in Omaha, NB. I'm wondering if the name might have been O'Conley or Connelly. In the 1910 census his age looks like 27, which would put his birth in 1882. I sure appreciate the time you have put into looking for his birth. Is there an on-line database for MA births? Thank you very much. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CBlaisdell8854 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joan, Have you found any of them in any of the censuses? I could not find a Bartholomew in the Births in MA. Where did you get this information? Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I would really appreciate assistance with a lookup in the NEHGS record Massachusetts and Maine 1798 Direct Tax for "Rodolphus Reed" ....I did a free search using soundex and it came up with this document.   Clarification of record appreciated, many thanks Janice

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carlsonjm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6910/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on Charles Conley & Ellen O'Brien. They were both born in Ireland and had a son Bartholomew (Bart, Bert, Burt) born somewhere in Mass. in late 1880--too late for the census of that year. We do not know if Charles and Ellen married in US or IRE. Charles and Ellen must have died in the mid 1880s as their children (we have no more names) were supposedly raised by a relative in Nebraska. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to learn more about Charles and Ellen. The names are too common to pin down an immigration, especially since we do not have an approximate birth year for either of them. Thank you. Joan carlsonjm@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Something just reminded me that I wanted to mention a PBS show I saw on TV about a week ago. "Forgotten Ellis Island" about the history of the hospital there. I just wondered whether anyone else had seen it. It's an important show, and one story about a young man who came there by accident - was a sad story. http://forgottenellisisland.com/joomla1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=1 Betty (near Lowell, MA) .. Actually, a few years ago I looked up on-line a little history of when "hospitals" first existed in the US. From memory, I think the first one was in PA, and then NY. More sad stories came out of those very early hospitals !

Hi Betty - and all Growing up near Middleton I remember well driving past the TB Sanitarium.. big building, set back from the road, and the red symbol which was used on, I think, Easter Seals on the smoke stack. Very imposing looking building! My great great grandmother died in what I believe might have been such a place in Haverhill, Mass in about 1870, although I have not had much luck finding information about it. I'll try out your links.. I can't imagine what life must have been like for these folks during those times.. Regarding the Brigham and Women's Lying-In - I believe they used to be two separate hospitals which merged maybe in the 1960s or 70s.. There were two Brighams hospitals as well, I think.. faye ---- Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Someone has asked me about what "hospitals for incurable diseases" existed > around 1900 in MA. I just did a Google search and found one, but it didn't > open until 1960. Then I found this web page which tells an interesting > story, a brief biography of Peter Bent BRIGHAM, who the hospital in Boston > is named after. >

Hi Betty, I had a great uncle who died in the Hanson TB Hospital, I wonder if anyone knows if there is a list somewhere of the patients that were at that hospital? One of the "sites" I visited was one kid talking about breaking into there, it being creepy, and them finding old CHARTS lying around! How awful. I'm hoping someone has taken care with those records, can anyone help me? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com>; <BOSTON@rootsweb.com>; <new-england-memories@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:51 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Peter B. BRIGHAM Hospital (Incurable Diseases) > Hello, > > Someone has asked me about what "hospitals for incurable diseases" existed > around 1900 in MA. I just did a Google search and found one, but it > didn't > open until 1960. Then I found this web page which tells an interesting > story, a brief biography of Peter Bent BRIGHAM, who the hospital in Boston > is named after. > > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,809448-1,00.html > > (Many people know about the "Brigham & Women's Hospital" in Boston, but > the > above is a separate building.) > > I love to read "rags to riches" stories of people who are "in the news." > > This is the other page which came up in the search: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Camillus_Health_Center > > I'm finding information about these hospitals in other countries, but not > too many for the US. Does anyone know of some in New England? > > I just changed the search-term and found a list of hospitals in MA: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_Massachusetts > > One site which comes up is some unpleasant photos of a former "TB > hospital" > in Hanson, MA, where the building has been abandoned for 15 years. Here > is a photo which is less-unpleasant: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/quietdear/2058792108/ > > Other sites coming up mention one in Middleton, MA, and Amesbury, MA. > > Here is a "Google / Book" which is an annual report for the State Dept. of > Health in 1917 where one page mentions the need for more TB hospitals in > MA: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=JdwWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=tuberculosis+hospital,+MA%22&source=web&ots=6Neww0wmgj&sig=zBn8W16vWRQ5yeHdNsmhTyeUYmI&hl=en&ei=5JKaSf-4MqGjtgfRxfzkAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPR2,M1 > > > There is another Google / Book which is the "Boston Medical .. Journal" of > 1915: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=tNAEAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA3-PA241-IA6&lpg=RA3-PA241-IA6&dq=tuberculosis+hospital,+MA%22&source=web&ots=UaCnsl4Gyx&sig=RsO5MLtCPECtVjmEa69rQfB5KcY&hl=en&ei=uJSaSdabN6GjtgfRxfzkAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPR1,M1 > > > Another page says "the military" has hospitals for "pulmonary disease." > > Lots of sites are coming up with the search-term "incurable diseases." > > And, it looks like www.google.com has put "millions" of books, > journals, reports, "papers," etc. on-line. You could put in almost any > search-term and find a publication mentioning it there. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > FYI: > > I had surgery at the Brigham & Women's Hospital in the 1980's. But > around the same time I had an opportunity to visit the "Peter Bent Brigham > Hospital" and it is a very old, very unusual, and sometimes scary > building. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 06:55:00