Hellow listers, I have an inquiry from a relative in Nova Scotia about this family. Iona Blanche Dorey died in 1989 in Dorchester, MA and we have her obituary. My relative wanted to know where the rest of the family was, or if anyone would be able to find the marriage of Edom Dorey to Iona Blanche Langille, somewhere in the 1910 year range, possibly in Boston? It has not been found in Nova Scotia. They had 2 children, Lawrence and Charles, but again I can't find them in any of the census' that I have access to. Thank you, Barbara Shepard Smith, Middleboro

At 10:30 AM 3/25/2009, Charles wrote: >I tried to access ma-vitalrecords.org and was unable to connect. Does it >still exist? Yes - I just connected to it. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

I tried to access ma-vitalrecords.org and was unable to connect. Does it still exist? Is there another website for Bradford, Mass. VRs? thanks, Charles

Hello, Does anyone know if there are marriage or divorce records on line for the early to mid 1900's? Thank you, Judy **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

At 09:29 PM 3/24/2009, Helen wrote: >Gershom EWELL (this may be an error) b 1650 m. Mary Benson or maybe, >according to the book Mary G. Helen - More recent research has failed to find proof of Mary's surname. In the sketch for Henry and his family in Vol. II of Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr. and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, "The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England 1634-1635" (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), her name is given as "Mary _____." >There was another possibility in the book, but >wrong--Bethia EWELL. She was his older sister. Bethia was Gershom's younger sister, born 27-Sep-1653 [Scituate VR 1:148]. Gershom was born 14-Nov-1650 [Scituate VR 1:149]. >John1, b. 1699 in Scituate m. Sarah Lambert 10 Sep. 1733. Author of Ewell >book says his wife was Elizabeth EWELL. Note that the 1733 marriage took place in Boston, and I think it likely that it was the marriage of a member of the family of Henry's oldest son John, who lived in Boston. I think it more likely that John, son of Gershom, married in or near Scituate about 1727, as several children of John Euel/Ewell were baptized in Scituate beginning in 1728 [Scituate VR 148-149], and his father Gershom stayed in Scituate, as shown by his probate file [Plymouth Co. Probate 1:273-274]. >I was told that John EWELL, Henry's father was born in >Scotland. From the passenger list of the Hercules we know that Henry Ewell was from Sandwich, Kent, England, but I know of no research showing his ancestry. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Ewell - Torrey - New England Marriages Prior to 1700 p.255 Gershorn Ewell (1650-1718) & 1st wife Mary ___? m. before 1683; Scituate p.256 Henry Ewell (d. 1681) & Sarah Annable (1622-1687) m. Nov 22, 1638 (or 23rd?; Nov. 23, 1638; Scituate. Ichabod Ewell (1659-1717) & Mehitable Gwinne m. May 1, 1689, Scituate. John Ewell (1640-1686) & Mary Goodale (calls Richard Hubbell, "cousin") before 1666/ Boston/Newbury Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220085203x1201389322/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62)

I have the Ewell book, but I've seen one error in it and it is the same place I may have made a mistake. Henry EWELL b 1615 m Sarah Annable. Scituate, MA (I have one of the Scituate books) Gershom EWELL (this may be an error) b 1650 m. Mary Benson or maybe, according to the book Mary G. There was another possibility in the book, but wrong--Bethia EWELL. She was his older sister. NEED HELP HERE. PLEASE Next help needed John1, b. 1699 in Scituate m. Sarah Lambert 10 Sep. 1733. Author of Ewell book says his wife was Elizabeth EWELL. I think that was his mistake. The rest is OK and it was correct on the first one Henry Ewell. Next problem. I was told that John EWELL, Henry's father was born in Scotland. That's my family story, and I do know how they can be. Henry and Sarah were both from Sandwich, Eng. Family story says John and wife (no name) went to England from Scotland and Henry was born there. If I had Henry's siblings and where they were born, that would help. Scotland is a long way from Sandwich by horse--even if there's carriage. Thank you very much, Helen **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

Betty - I must thank you for all of your posts to the various (Rootsweb) lists. I have to wonder just how in the world you can do all of this - - live your daily life, write or call to all the various places involved in your research, report back to all of the on-line lists, in much detail, and, so "casually" (to me, anyway!) "notice" all the things related to all of this (such as walking down a street, noticing a sign, etc.! as you go about your daily errands/business), and ask so many intelligent questions of the rest of the world via your computer. I very much admire your on-line work. I don't have the ability to bring it all alive in print as you do. Well done, and much appreciated! Joan Norstedt Oxnard, CA

wataptek131@verizon.net wrote: >>It would also be a great help if someone could tell me the wife's maiden name.  It looks as if her name is Marie in that lousy 1920 census copy.<< Here's the info from their marriage record :-) Dianne * * * * * * LaTremouille James J. Fall River 1906 Marriage Vol: 562 ; Page: 214     #861 Aug.7, 1906; James J. LaTremouille and Marie Dolbec; His age 33, her age 27; His residence: first marriage for both; his residence: 789 Dwelly; her residence: 28 Scott; His occupation: Barber, her occupation: Drawer in. Birthplace: Canada for both. His father's name: Didyme Her father's name: Jean B. His mother's name: Euphrosine Caza; her mother's name: Sopronie Berube. Officient: M.A. Lamarche, Pr. address: 790 South Main. Date recorded: Oct. 11. ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

wataptek131@verizon.net wrote: >>It would help me a great deal if someone could come up with the spelling of the name in the other censuses, and I would look them up myself on Heritage Quest.  Our goal is to trace the family back to Canada.  I have a subscription to the PRDH but it starts at 1799 and goes back from that year, so I need to get the LaTremouille family back to then. << Hi Barbara ~ Here's what I found so far......hope it helps! Try WorldConnect too....there could be a tree there and it's free. Dianne * * * * * * In 1880, there is one indexed as James Latremoulle, in Oswego, NY. The wife's name is given as Rora...looks more like Rona on the page though. James Latremoulle, age 39 Rora, age 32 Angeline, age 12 Rora, age 10 James, age 7 Antonie, age 5 Mary, age 3 Maud, age 1 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Oswego, Oswego, New York; Roll:  T9_913; Family History Film: 1254913; Page: 318.3000; Enumeration District: 246; Image * * * * * There is a 27 year old James Lattimore, boarding with a McNamara family in Oswego NY in 1900......he was b. Canada English though ~ Sept.1872. Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Oswego Ward 1, Oswego, New York; Roll: T623_1143 Page: 20A; Enumeration District: 120. * * * * * In 1910....there is a James Lattimore, age 36, in Bridgewater. Wife Mary, age 30. It was the first marriage for both. They had been married 3 years and had 2 children/ 2 living. Robert, age 2 and James R., age 1. His immigration date was 1879 [it does look like 1899 though and that is what Ancestry says it is.] and hers was 1881, he was naturalized. He was a barber. Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place:  Bridgewater, Plymouth, Massachusetts; Roll: T624_610; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 1175 * * * * * * By 1930, he's indexed as Joseph Latremoville, age 57, with wife Marie, age 50..... Children are: Robert, 22; Raymond, 21; Alva, 19; James, 18; Irene, 16; Frederick, 12; George, 10; Marie, 7, and a 19 year old boarder, Walter Benson. The immigration year is given as 1880 for Joseph and 1881 for Marie, both were naturalized. He was a barber with his own shop. Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Brockton, Plymouth, Massachusetts; Roll: 939; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 38 * * * * * * ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)

Hi Barbara, On the familysearch.org pilot site, I found 3 items of interest in 1900 in upstate NY (nothing in MA, and nothing in 1880): Name: Angeline Latremouille Titles: Residence: Troy city, Rensselaer, New York Birth date: Dec 1867 Birth place: Canada Fr Relationship to head-of-household: Spouse name: Spouse titles: Spouse birth place: Father name: Father titles: Father birth place: Canada Fr Mother name: Mother titles: Mother birth place: Canada Fr Race or color (expanded): White Head-of-household name: Gender: Female Marital status: Single Years married: Estimated marriage year: Mother how many children: Number living children: Immigration year: 1894 Enumeration district: 0098 Sheet number and letter: 173B Household id: 14 Reference number: 55 GSU film number: 1241153 Image number: 00204 Collection: 1900 United States Census ------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Elodie Latremouille Titles: Residence: Cohoes city, Albany, New York Birth date: Nov 1829 Birth place: Canada (Fr) Relationship to head-of-household: Self Spouse name: Spouse titles: Spouse birth place: Father name: Father titles: Father birth place: Canada (Fr) Mother name: Mother titles: Mother birth place: Canada (Fr) Race or color (expanded): White Head-of-household name: Gender: Female Marital status: Widowed Years married: Estimated marriage year: Mother how many children: 8 Number living children: 4 Immigration year: 1867 Enumeration district: 0082 Sheet number and letter: 2A Household id: 30 Reference number: 6 GSU film number: 1241006 Image number: 00698 Collection: 1900 United States Census ------------------------------------ Name: Peter C Latremouille Titles: Residence: Cohoes city, Albany, New York Birth date: Feb 1869 Birth place: New York Relationship to head-of-household: Son Spouse name: Spouse titles: Spouse birth place: Father name: Father titles: Father birth place: Canada (Fr) Mother name: Elodie Latremouille Mother titles: Mother birth place: Canada (Fr) Race or color (expanded): White Head-of-household name: Elodie Latremouille Gender: Male Marital status: Married Years married: 7 Estimated marriage year: 1893 Mother how many children: Number living children: Immigration year: Enumeration district: 0082 Sheet number and letter: 2A Household id: 30 Reference number: 7 GSU film number: 1241006 Image number: 00698 Collection: 1900 United States Census --------------------------------------------- Hope this is helpful! Best, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Shepard Smith" <wataptek131@verizon.net> To: "Massachusett's List" <GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] LATREMOUILLE Family 1880, 1900, 1910 census > Hello Listers, > > I am trying to help someone with this family. Not a common name, I have > access to Heritage Quest and did find the family in the 1920 census in > Brockton. The page is difficult to read but it seems as if the head of > house James was born in 1879 in Canada and it also looks like he > immigrated the same year? So he should be found in the 1880 census, and > the subsequent ones. > > It would help me a great deal if someone could come up with the spelling > of the name in the other censuses, and I would look them up myself on > Heritage Quest. Our goal is to trace the family back to Canada. I have a > subscription to the PRDH but it starts at 1799 and goes back from that > year, so I need to get the LaTremouille family back to then. > > It would also be a great help if someone could tell me the wife's maiden > name. It looks as if her name is Marie in that lousy 1920 census copy. > > I did find the name on google tied into a Fournier tree, but that is only > accessible through a subscription to Ancestry, which I don't have. > > Thank you all, > > Barbara Shepard, Middleboro, MA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, I am trying to help someone with this family. Not a common name, I have access to Heritage Quest and did find the family in the 1920 census in Brockton. The page is difficult to read but it seems as if the head of house James was born in 1879 in Canada and it also looks like he immigrated the same year? So he should be found in the 1880 census, and the subsequent ones. It would help me a great deal if someone could come up with the spelling of the name in the other censuses, and I would look them up myself on Heritage Quest. Our goal is to trace the family back to Canada. I have a subscription to the PRDH but it starts at 1799 and goes back from that year, so I need to get the LaTremouille family back to then. It would also be a great help if someone could tell me the wife's maiden name. It looks as if her name is Marie in that lousy 1920 census copy. I did find the name on google tied into a Fournier tree, but that is only accessible through a subscription to Ancestry, which I don't have. Thank you all, Barbara Shepard, Middleboro, MA

Hi again, Just thought I would offer a few sites about Anne Marbury HUTCHINSON. First, I'd like to say that the web site I mentioned yesterday about the passengers on the "Griffin" did list both the girl and boy children of William and Anne. And, it listed the son, Edward. But, Edward was the one who came over a year ahead of time with his "Uncle Edward" to - prepare the way. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sam/marbury/anne.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hutchinson http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/amarbury.html Here's another web site with a small "typo?" One part has her husband as Thomas but the text has her husband, William. And, this says they had .16. children. Other sites say they had .14. children. http://www.johnpratt.com/gen/0/4/7/1.a_marbury.html This page lists the names and birth-dates of the .16. children: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/River/7560/annmarbury.html One reminder is that some researchers state that it was Anne and "all" of her children who were massacred in NY. But, her older children had already married and settled in their homes, when the widow, Anne, took her younger children to NY. And it was one of "those" daughters who was captured by the Native Americans and was raised by them. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (As a child, growing up on the HUTCHINSON farm, we thought we might be distantly related to Anne. But, our ancestors' reports showed we were not. We came from George who arrived 4 years earlier with "the Winthrop Fleet.") FYI: Among her notable descendants are U.S. Presidents Franklin Delano Roosevelt, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush, First Lady Lucretia Garfield, former Michigan Governor George W. Romney and former Massachusetts Governor and 2008 U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney,[citation needed] actors Chevy Chase and Ted Danson, actresses Marilyn Monroe (possibly) and Jane Wyatt, writers Louis Stanton Auchincloss, Dubose Heyward, Eve LaPlante, Robert Lowell and John P. Marquand, U.S. Attorney General Elliot Richardson, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. and Chief Justice Melville Weston Fuller, Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, Senator Stephen Arnold Douglas, Ambassador Pamela Harriman, neuropathologist Stanley Cobb, numismatist Q. David Bowers, and LDS evangelists Parley P. Pratt and Helaman Pratt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hutchinson FYI: A reminder that the last Governor of the MA Bay Colony was Thomas HUTCHINSON, a descendant of William and Anne. I just read on-line that his wife was also a descendant of them. http://books.google.com/books?id=kWaAAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA145&lpg=PA145&dq=%22Thomas+Hutchinson,+Governor%22&source=bl&ots=VN7x5tlMRu&sig=H7Ik3pLXGpyrbp-mHGdh0XxjgWQ&hl=en&ei=yYTHSa7qLqOxtgfx04HICg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

Hi Cindy, If you search for "family Bible" at eBay, you usually find about 20+ BIBLE's up for sale. You can look at the pictures of them and the descriptions for them and usually tell whether they have pages for writing "family vitals." It is also something that researchers should do. Many of the "auctions" for them offer the "family info" which is in the BIBLE which is being sold. And, if lucky, the Seller, will give you the information - upon request. But, you need the description carefully because many Sellers do not think that "family vitals" in the BIBLE they are selling are important. It is usually the very old and very large BIBLEs which have the "family pages" in them - according to what I've seen on-line. (On a recent search, I discovered that several of the very large, very old BIBLEs with "family vitals" in them were about PA families. Were they more important in Pennsylvania?) (Disclaimer: I am not an eBay Seller and have no connection to anything being auctioned there. But, I have had the luck of finding some genealogy / history books there for a very reasonable price.) Betty (near Lowell, MA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Phillips" <cphillips59@gmail.com> To: <genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com>; <ancestorhunters@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Family Bibles > Interesting I"m doing some cleaning and have found 3 Bibles, one is > Catholic and my mom's, one a New American Standard and mine a King James > version. None of the 3 have a place to write in births, marriages or > deaths. From the way everyone talks I thought all Bibles came with > pages > for records. > > -- > Cindyp > > http://grammiesbears.com > http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu > http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips > http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen > >

No. Not all bibles come with inscription pages. In fact, the majority don't. -----Original Message----- From: genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cynthia Phillips Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:46 PM To: genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com; ancestorhunters@yahoogroups.com Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Family Bibles Interesting I"m doing some cleaning and have found 3 Bibles, one is Catholic and my mom's, one a New American Standard and mine a King James version. None of the 3 have a place to write in births, marriages or deaths. From the way everyone talks I thought all Bibles came with pages for records. -- Cindyp http://grammiesbears.com http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 12:45 PM 3/22/2009, Cynthia Phillips wrote: > From the way everyone talks I thought all Bibles came with pages >for records. Most of the physically smaller editions that I have seen from the very late 1800s on were intended for personal use and do not have records pages. Most of the physically larger editions that I have seen from that time range were intended as family Bibles and do have such pages. My grandmother's Bible, given to her at the age of ten, in 1908, does not have them, and neither does my first Bible, given to me at the age of seven. Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Hello: I can't find the following in any census so thought I'd turn to the kind people on this list. I'm searching for Annie M. MacDonald, born 1885, South Cove, Nova Scotia. Went to Mass. 1904, married Louis (Lewis) STONE and they had a daughter Louise. The 1910 census shows someone by that name working as a servant with the BRADLEE family at Boston City. I have information passed down by family that she lived in Ashland. Their daughter Louise moved to California. Thanks for any help. Evelyn

Interesting I"m doing some cleaning and have found 3 Bibles, one is Catholic and my mom's, one a New American Standard and mine a King James version. None of the 3 have a place to write in births, marriages or deaths. From the way everyone talks I thought all Bibles came with pages for records. -- Cindyp http://grammiesbears.com http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen

Hello, In this morning's "MassMoments" e-mails there is information on "Anne HUTCHINSON" who arrived in the MA Bay Colony in 1634. She was a "religious activist" of her time. http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=88 Usually these daily e-mails are interesting and informative and fairly accurate. But, this morning, I see a possible "fact" which is not a fact. It states that William and Anne and their 15 children were on the ship, "Griffin," which arrived in the Colony in 1634. But, if you check the list of passengers on that ship, you only find the names of .8. of their children. http://www.ourpast.org/genealogy/histories/griffin.htm If I'm remembering the story correctly, their oldest son had joined his uncle when his uncle was heading to the Colony before them. And the uncle and the son were "sent ahead" in order to get a house built - for the large family which would be arriving in 1634. I've only read a children's book about the surviving child of the "Long Island massacre" of the family (in recent years). But, I've read probably on-line that, when "Anne Marbury HUTCHINSON" left her "nice, white cottage, with a nice flowery garden" in England, she didn't know what to expect. But, when she arrived in the Colony and saw the "very rustic cabin" in the woods where she was expected to live, she sat down and cried. .. At this moment, I don't remember how many HUTCHINSON patriarchs arrived in the Colony during the 1630's. But, I found out that my ancestor, George HUTCHINSON, and his brother, Thomas HUTCHINSON, arriving in 1630, were not related to the above William HUTCHINSON. (or at least not directly related) ... One of my genealogy-disappointments is .. having several, important ancestors from 1600's MA Bay Colony -- who have no "family history book" published about them. (In addition to the HUTCHINSON brothers, there is Francis MOORE.) Betty (near Lowell, MA) Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.

Hi again, Did you ever pick up a book (at home or in a library) and open it to a page - where you find something of interest to you? (Happens to me all the time.) This morning I just opened the "history of Billerica" and came on the page for the KENDALL name. That is a name which is not mentioned too often. There is only a half-page on the name, but it starts out: "KENDALL. Jacob, was son of Francis, of Woburn, where the births of 19 children are recorded, and may be found in the history of Woburn. But he seems to have lived in Billerica long enough to secure a record here of the birth of his 20th child. Jacob, the son of Jacob and Alice KENDALL, was b. July 21, 1717." ... And someone on a CLARK Board was mentioning a CLARK family in early Tewksbury. Since Tewksbury annexed off of Billerica in the 1730's, I checked the Billerica book to see if the CLARK name is mentioned. But, there are only a few, very brief mentions of CLARK in the Billerica book. But one mention is of a Rev. Thomas CLARK who m. 1702 to an Elizabeth STEARNS. It says he was the pastor of the church in Chelmsford from 1678 to his death in 1704. Oh, just noticed they were only married for 2 yrs. Elizabeth had one daughter born after her husband's death. Samuel and Abigail (CLARK) GREEN had important descendants. .. I don't remember at this second why I opened to the STICKNEY page, but I saw this: "7. Jonathan, son of Daniel, 3, b. 1736 .. m. Silence ______. He enlisted for the invasion of Canada, 1759; was at Bunker Hill and in other Revolutionary service; and in 1785, as a Major, led the Billerica Artillery, in a snow-storm to Cambridge to guard the Supreme Judicial Court during Shay's Rebellion; d. 1802 .... and his widow .. d. 1807.... CH: Silence, b1758 .. m. Benjamin BOWERS ...." The reason this paragraph caught my eye is that unusual names given to babies are being discussed on other Lists. And I mentioned that sometimes babies who are "stillborn" or die shortly after birth are given the name, Silence. So, I was surprised to see that a baby girl with that name - grew to adulthood ! (And her daughter with same name did.) Just an FYI for you. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (The only name above which is on my family-tree is CLARK. One of my "concrete-block walls" is a James CLARK born 1790-1800 "somewhere." He seems to have been a "travelin' man" going to many countries. The only child I know of was Mary Anna CLARK, b~1836 in Westport, MA. She grew up to become Mrs. John DEXTER of Killingly, CT. In ~1885 they moved to Melrose, MA, and in 1892 adopted a little girl; they renamed her Mary Anna Clark DEXTER - who became my grandmother. Adding to that, when "May" married in 1911, she wrote down that William CLARK was her birth-father. We have no idea who that was.) FYI: If you want people in the future to find your old postings, you need to type a space between the surnames you are discussing: For example, DEXTER / CLARK. If you search for DEXTER in the "Archive Search" feature, it won't show up if the names are typed: DEXTER/CLARK.