Hi again, I just took another look at census information, and I discovered that there was a William WILKINS family living in Marblehead, MA, in 1800. That jogged my memory. I think it was about a year and a half ago I found more information on the BANCROFT family of William's wife. I posted it on the Lists. I seem to remember that there was a Marblehead connection to the BANCROFT family. And, I think I wrote a letter to the Marblehead Historical Society at that time. I never received a response. I just check the 1810 census for MA, and I see a . Dr. William WILKINS in Marblehead with several children. Does anyone know about this Dr. WILKINS? (There is a Jacob WILKINS in Marblehead in 1810 and 1820, but not a William in 1820 (just a Mary).) By the way, if Eunice WILKINS got married in 1804 in MA, she should have been in the 1800 census for MA or ME. She married James NICHOLS in Middleton, and, yet, a quick look and I don't see him mentioned in Essex Co. in 1800 or 1810. The couple is there in 1820. (As I said in my other posting, wouldn't it be nice if there was information on their wedding -- which might show whether Eunice's parents were present at the wedding ! That would show whether William and Sarah were still alive in 1804.) Thank you for your time. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: I also still don't know what happened to the other children of William and Sarah WILKINS, a daughter, Sarah, and a son, Jethro, born 1770's. But, a quick Google search shows there was a Jethro WILKINS who served in the Revolutionary War from Westford, MA. Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. I have a relative with "Down's." (She is a "high-functioning, Down's adult in her 40's.) So, I have an interest in the syndrome. I just looked on-line to remind myself, and one page in a book says that it was the early 1900's when Dr. DOWN correctly identified all the symptoms. And, as you say, the babies were usually "sent away." And that even went up past 1960. Luckily my relative's parents "refused" to do that. Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. While looking for the above information, I found a Google book which some people might like to look at: http://books.google.com/books?id=-NacgZ_ggksC&pg=RA1-PA83&lpg=RA1-PA83&dq="Down's Syndrome history"&source=bl&ots=3CnRRei942&sig=M8ArEoCpihVBq3RGi_dlm90iSPw&hl=en&ei=tAgASuONN8artgeEqrSJBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PRA1-PA83,M1 (Title: "A-Z of Syndromes and Inherited Disorders") OH, here is Dr. DOWN's story: http://www.ds-health.com/trisomy.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, I've mentioned my WILKINS ancestors many times, but I was looking at my notes, and on-line, yesterday, and I was reminded of a few things. For today, I'd just like to offer a time-line for the man I am interested in: 1746 William WILKINS born in Middleton, MA ~1766 / 67 William married Sarah BANCROFT ~1767 (or before 1769) they had 2 children, unnamed in "WILKINS book" and both died in 1769 in Middleton. 1771 daughter, Eunice, born in Middleton (married 1804? Middleton, lived to 98, no children) 1772 daughter, Sarah, born in Middleton (unknown as adult) 1774 son, Jethro, born in Middleton (unknown as adult) 1777 William is residing in Hallowell 1778 William was in Pownalborough as a commissioner 1781 William is in census for Pittston 1782 William signed up for War from Pittston ("Patriotic Service") 1790 William in Waldoboro, present at signing of a will 1792 William on committee to set bounds of Sydney off of Vassalborough I don't think I have found anything of William after 1792. He was only ~46 at that time, so he should have had many more years to live. He is not shown in any census, 1790 or 1800, etc. He was reported to have been a Surveyor. (I guess I need more proof, than that mentioned above, for William to be mentioned in the "Families in Maine in 1790" books. ** ~1780 I am looking for a possible child born to William. I have a Samuel WILKINS born ~1780 in "Maine." If William was his father, Samuel could have been born in any of the above towns mentioned. I have never found Mrs. Sarah WILKINS mentioned anywhere past the birth of a son, Jethro, in Middleton, MA, in 1774. I had "guessed" that William and Sarah moved to "the Northern Territory" together. But there is no proof of that. So, perhaps, Sarah died before William moved to "Maine." Or, another "guess" of mine is that William and Sarah had a child after arriving in "Maine" and that was Samuel born 1778-1780. Adding to that, perhaps Sarah died at that time as a result of childbirth. I also have "no clue" as to where William lived after 1795, or where or when he died. If he died anywhere near 1800, that record should be "somewhere." Wouldn't it be nice if there was information on daughter, Eunice's wedding in 1804 in Middleton - which showed whether her parents were present at her wedding. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: In the book, "A Midwife's Tale," there is an undated map which shows the towns at that time (1790's?) being Pownalboro, Bowdoinham, Pittston, Hallowell, Sidney, Vassalboro, and Winslow. William WILKINS seems to have been in all of those towns for one reason or another. Sources: Several "town histories" from Maine, and the book of Probate records from Lincoln Co. And the "Bray WILKINS book," and information from Historical Societies in MA, etc.

Hello. I think I may have to go to Boston to get this death record. I've spent many hours at the Archives, but not at the other building. I've heard it is somewhat difficult to work there. Can someone please tell me how this place works? Is it actually part of Bay State Convention center, or just close to it? Is there a parking lot? Where is it located? I'll use my GPS to find the address, but any tips appreciated. I'm not good at driving in Boston! Thanks. Betty G. **************2009 3 Free CREDIT SCORES: See Your 3 Credit Scores from All 3 Bureaus FREE! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221797372x1201397989/aol?redir=https:%2F%2Fwww.freescore.com%2FOffers%2FStart%2FFreeCreditRepor tAndScore.aspx%3FID%3D91831F371F138345B53A153F49D4D872%26siteid%3De927580bf7 )

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cl238300 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your response. What I am really looking for is an uncle who was born with Downs Syndrome and died as a young child. Back then it was a disgrace to have a child that was different and doctors insisted that they be put into an institution. I can find no records of birth, institution, or death. Everyone in the family has now passed on except for one uncle who denies anything that has to do with the family secrets. There is a family cemetery plot but either he is not buried there or he is not registered as being buried there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fmrees Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To find someone on the hospital census one has to search on the name - I don't believe the hospital census was in any special place, other than to be included in that of the town. I found one once - searching for a particular name - and the heading on the page indicated it as the hospital. I am sorry to say I forget the exact name (I believe it changed a few times over the course of its history). There is a nice site for it still: http://www.danversstateinsaneasylum.com/home.html faye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, In this morning's MassMoments e-mail there is another story about an important .woman.. in the history of MA: http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=133 This is one paragraph: Her mother Nancy was the Newton-born daughter of a man who fought in the Continental Army; her father John was a free black who arrived from the Dutch island of Curacao as a ten-year-old boy in 1798. The Remonds settled in Salem, where they built successful catering, provisioning, and hairdressing businesses. and Although they were prosperous free citizens of Massachusetts and protective parents, they could not shield their eight children from racial discrimination. The family set great store by education, and in 1835, Sarah and her sister passed the examination to enter Salem High School. Within a week,a segregationist school committee forced them to leave the school. Outraged, the Remonds moved to Newport, RI, where Sarah attended a private school for blacks. I know someone with the REDMOND name, and I'm curious whether REMOND are sometimes mixed up in records. ..... Since the "theater" in Boston is mentioned, I could ask how many had an ancestor who was some type of entertainer in Boston. I could mention 2 stores. My mother had an aunt who married Hobart PHELPS and they lived in Lexington. I was reminded a few years ago that Uncle Hobart was an "entertainer." He was some type of "impersonator" in Scollay Square. (Aunt Ruby was a seamstress, and she made the bridesmaids gowns for my wedding. She and her older sister both lived long lives.) And, my grandmother, the twice-orphaned girl, was told many "family stories" which turn out to be many "family lies." When she was reportedly "found" on the streets of Boston in Feb. 1889, she was taken to a hospital. And she was told the nurses gave her the name, Daisy WATROUS. And, she was told that that was the name for a well-known entertainer in Boston at the time. 4-5 yrs. ago I wrote to the Boston Public Library. The Reference Dept. checked all their books of "entertainers," and that name did not appear in any of them. (Since when do nurses give a baby .. a surname?) :o( (In 1892 at her adoption her name was officially changed from Daisy WATROUS to Mary Anna Clark DEXTER. She had just turned 3. We knew that she had nicknames, like "May" or "Mamie," but I never heard her mention a possible nickname of Daisy.) (This name-change is in a book.) (Long, complicated story in archives of MA and CT Lists.) Betty (near Lowell, MA)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Rice, Patience Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. This might help a little. This is my gr-gr-grandmother in 1880 in "Danvers." (This is a reminder to look for all spellings of names, as "Grandma RICE" was Adelaide. RICE, ADELANE C (1880 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , ESSEX, DANVERS Age: 28, Race: WHITE, Born: MA Series: T9 Roll: 528 Page: 33 The top of the page has written: Danvers Hospital. I don't have time to find out how many pages here list all the "Patients" that year. But, browsing through them will show all the ages. ALSO, Adelaide had given births in 1876 and 1878, and we will never know what her problem was. But, nowadays, we could say she "might" have had "Post-Partum Depression." Betty (near Lowell, MA) ALSO, Maybe 5 years ago I found out about a family-history book written by a man in Chelmsford. It's a large book about the PATIENCE family which lived in the Connecticut River Valley. I didn't read the book cover to cover, but I read several of the stories. One was about a lady who never married, and she lived with several family members during her younger adult years. But, when she got older, she decided she didn't want to live with them any longer. I don't believe she worked, so she didn't have an income. So, somehow she ended up in a facility (state hospital?), where she spent the rest of her life. She did not have a medical reason to live there; it was her choice. She was not "IN" a building; she roamed the grounds when she wanted to. AND, don't forget all the "women problems" which sent women to hospitals. Many husbands found ways to "admit" their unwanted wives to those hospitals / asylums. I even found out about a case in the 1980's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello List, I have Enola Darres born in the late 1890's in Nova Scotia, who could have possibly moved to the "Boston States" and married. I am looking for her marriage if anyone can find it. The spelling could be any variation of the above names. Her brothers were scattered throughout New England in the lumber industry. Her father was accused of her mother's murder and did time in Nova Scotia, but came out and remarried, living in Lynn, Mass in 1920 with his daughter Goldie who was married to a Henry Burgess. Thank you, Barbara Middleboro, MA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Momsooky Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know that Danvers State Hospital (which has been turned into comdos now) had many differnet hospitals in one location. I have not been able to find any information or census concerning this place. There was the mental wards, childrens colony, TB colony, womens section (whatever that was for). I did training in the childrens colony when I was in nursing and my mother was a nurses aid in the mental section. For a short time my father was a patient in the mental section while he was waiting for a Nursing Home bed to become available. I do know that mental and non mental patients were mixed together at times. If any one knows where to find census or other information concerning Danvers State Hospital I would appreciate your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jaclynpaige1993 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: there was one in Westboro still there and being used with several large new editions. Looked at 1900 census. Separate ED for the hospital. Top of page for town lists Westboro Insane Asylum. Lists officers (I assume employees) and patients. Jan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6944.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1860 census for Syracuse has a Mary Mace age 84 livng with the family. She is most likely the mother of Andrew b. MA Other census seem to have him born NY, MA, ME or NH. look for Mary in earlier census maybe a connection can be found. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

1930 census. 1930 United States Federal Census about John Lane Name: John Lane Home in 1930: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: Newfoundland Relation to Head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Catherine Race: White Occupation: Education: Military service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: Parents' birthplace: Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Lane 50 Catherine Lane 49 Margaret Lane 24 Ester C Lane 21 William Lane 19 Francis R Lane 11 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts; Roll: 929; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 449; Image: 308.0.

here is the family in 1920 census. NOTE: Ancestry.com has missindexed the name so hard to find but shows added children form 1910-1920. 1920 United States Federal Census about John Lans Name: John Lans [John Lane] Home in 1920: Cambridge Ward 3, Middlesex, Massachusetts Age: 40 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Birthplace: Newfoundland Relation to Head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Catherine Father's Birth Place: Newfoundland Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Year of Immigration: 1901 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 48 Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Lans 40 Catherine Lans 38 John A Lans 15 Margaret Lans 14 Alice Lans 12 Esther Lans 10 William Lans 8 Francis Lans 11/12 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Cambridge Ward 3, Middlesex, Massachusetts; Roll: T625_708; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 34; Image: 48.

Dear List: I am researching my ggg grandfather, Christopher ELLIS, as usual. I recently became aware of some paragraphs in Volume II of the Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society that mention Stoffel Janson Ellis, which means Christopher son of John Ellis. Stoffel means Christopher, Janson means son of John, and Stoffel Janson Ellis's father was John Ellis. This family lived in Holland in the 1600s. The paragraphs were about the buying and selling of houses and gave some vital information of the Ellis family. Stoffel Janson Ellis's marriage and children are described as below in the Proceedings: "Ellis, Hester (Leonard). Wife of Chris. Wit. bet. of John Jones, Sept. 29, 1634. Abraham, son of Chris. and Hester. Cabinet maker. Living in Leyden in 1681. Jacob, son of Chris. and Hester. Anna, dau. of Chris. and Hester. Living unmarried in Leyden in 1681." You can tell that I am desperate that I am spending time on this lead, but I wonder if anyone can give me any idea of how to try to proceed from Stoffel Janson Ellis in Holland in the 1600s to my ggg grandfather, Christopher ELLIS, born in MA or RI in 1783. I have done much research in MA and RI on Christopher ELLIS. He does not appear in any record in those states; I cannot find his parents or other family. I have researched online and cannot find that any Stoffel Janson has ever lived in the U.S. There are some Stoffel Jansons on Facebook who live in other countries, but not in Holland. There is a Christoff Janson with father Jan (John, no last name is given) on familysearch who is obviously the same person as is mentioned in Proceedings of the MA Historical Society, but no other information is given. I was amused to read that Stoffel Janson Ellis of Holland in the 1600s is described as a big real estate man. My ggg grandfather was similar in that he was a wealthy farmer who bought and sold farms in Otsego County, New York State, where he moved about 1800 from MA or RI. I also wonder why this information about Dutch people in Holland was published by the MA Historical Society unless it leads to people who lived in MA at some time. The name of the society suggests that they publish MA history. I tried to answer that question myself by goggling the society and found the following: _Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society_ (http://www.masshist.org/periodicals/proceedings.cfm) >From 1859 to 1997, the Proceedings captured the dynamic intellectual achievements and contributions to historical scholarship of the Society's members and friends. Each issue includes annual reports that chronicle the Society's activities, as well as documents and essays that illuminate the Society's collections and New England history. Each volume through 1997 is individually indexed; four cumulative indexes cover (1) volumes 1-20 of the first series, 1791-1883; (2) volumes 1-20 of the second series, 1884-1907; (3) volumes 41-60, the third series, 1907-1928; (4) and volumes 61-80, no series, 1927-1968. but that doesn't answer my question. Thank you very much for any ideas. Jayne _perllan987@aol.com_ (mailto:perllan987@aol.com) **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/100126575x1222376998x1201454298/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=M ay5309AvgfooterNO62)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6944.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The name Andrew Mace shows up often in 1700's in Gasport and Hampton NH. Last name Mace shows up often in MA in Newburyport area, No Andrew found in VR's at NEHGS. Do you have names of children and.or siblings. It may help track migration of family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LeeWarriner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There were many, often called state hospitals. The buildings for the old Northampton State Hospitial in Northampton are still there but were converted for other uses a few years ago. If memory serves me right this facility was used into the 1960s Also some of the Belchertown State school buildings are still in use for other purposes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joan. There were many asylums in MA. You will also find them called State Hospitals, and perhaps other names. This is one web site you should know about: http://www.1856.org/ One of the Hospitals mentioned is the one in Tewksbury, and there is a List for that hospital. Also, if you offer at least a surname and year, perhaps people can help you with census information. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (My family knew a lot of information about the people living on the HUTCHINSON Farm in (now) Winchester, MA, for many generations. But, it was only 2 years ago that I found out my gr-gr-grandmother, Adelaide, was at Danvers State Hospital around the time of her daughters' births in the 1870's. And, Adelaide and her husband separated at the same time. So, the very young daughters lived with their grandparents for a while.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Just wanted to mention some events which are happening at the Chelmsford Genealogy Club: Hello Friends; I hope you all can come to hear our fantastic lecturer Marcia Melnyk speak at our meeting on Tuesday, May 5th, 7:00 PM in the upstairs meeting room. Her topic is Investigating the Dash (1842-1929): Following an Ancestor from Cradle to Grave. I have heard this lecture before and you will learn a lot. Check out the Chelmsford library website for more information. And bring a friend! Also we will be celebrating our 10 Year Anniversary with cake and soft drinks! We will be rescheduling Mary Lee Dunn and will let you know the new date soon. Keep this date open for Dick Eastman, Tuesday June 2nd, 7:00 PM. .. The Club meets once a month on the first Tuesday. I get their e-mail announcements, but have not been able to attend any evening events. I did go to a Saturday afternoon event which included TIARA members. Many of you know about the popular "Eastman Genealogy e-mails." I'm pretty sure he is a MA resident. Just a reminder about this group: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maglgc/ ( I'd still like to have a "Billerica and Chelmsford Genealogy Group" which would meet - weekday mornings ! ) (AND the Chelmsford Library is looking for volunteers to take obituary information out of the Chelmsford newspaper from the 1940's, etc., and put it on-line.) Betty (near Lowell, MA)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoanChristopher783 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.