This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Lamb Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6945.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again. I agree. And, it was not always the man in the woman's life. I've read stories about the parents of a girl -- who didn't like their daughter's lifestyle. And, wasn't it President Lincoln's son who committed his mother to a "home" of some sort? And, daughters have been known to do similar things. And, there are "people with mental-health issues" who can accuse "healthy people" with bad things. And, don't forget the story which came out within the last 10 years of the woman who was in, I think, Danvers State Hospital for most of her life. I think it was a nurse who discovered the lady was deaf. She didn't have a "mental health" problem, she just couldn't hear anyone. And there were probably man teen-age boys, who became unruly and their parents had them committed -- because they didn't know what else to do. My great-uncle had a brother who was sent to a Reform School near Lowell, MA, as a "teen-ager" ~1918. His father had returned to northern Maine, so his mother was then a single-parent in MA during WW I years. And, he might have been just a teen-age boy who didn't want to go to school. But, the 1920 census still had him at that Reform School. Betty (near Lowell, MA) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Momsooky Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6945.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have heard of a woman that was very educated, wealthy, and owned her own business. Her husband was very greedy and wanted all that she had but didn't want to divorce her. Instead he had her committed to Danvers State Mental Hospital where she stayed for about 20 years until she died. He had claim to everything all them years just because he had her committed as insane. Any husband, father or doctor could have any woman committed just by signing a paper. No proof was needed. The list goes on but to keep from boring you I will just give you the examples above. Probably about 60% of the people in mental hospitals were not mental but had a man in there life that had them put there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~historyofmarlborough/history marlborohospital.htm Here is a page with a little info and the date of a special edition of a local paper on the history of the hospital. -----Original Message----- From: genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DGoo249076@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:24 PM To: genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Hospital in Marlborough, MA. Hi listers I had a great aunt named Minnie Olive Robbins. Aunt Min never married and was a diector of nurses at a hospital in Marlborough, MA. Minnie died in 1953 so am thinking that her tenure there was between 1920's and 40's. Anyone know what hospital this might have been? I know my mother mentions in her diary that she went to see Aunt Min in Marlborough to have her appendix removed. Susan in Marshfield **************Big savings on Dell's most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't worry Betty, nobody is, least of all those who live there. They have the worst driving manners of anybody anywhere. Ruth At 1:00 AM -0600 5/5/09, genmassachusetts-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Hello. > >I think I may have to go to Boston to get this death record. I've spent >many hours at the Archives, but not at the other building. > >I've heard it is somewhat difficult to work there. > >Can someone please tell me how this place works? > >Is it actually part of Bay State Convention center, or just close to it? > >Is there a parking lot? Where is it located? > >I'll use my GPS to find the address, but any tips appreciated. > >I'm not good at driving in Boston! > >Thanks. > >Betty G. -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

Hi Richard, Here is a Census that might help. I didn't see a marriage for Jetta. Lynde Randall 1901 Census of Canada Name: Jetta Smeltzer Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 17 Birth Date: 25 Feb 1884 Birthplace: Ns Relation to Head-of-house: Domestic racial_or_tribal_origin: German Nationality: Canadian Religion: Baptist Occupation: Servant Province: Nova Scotia District: Lunenburg District Number: 37 Sub-District: Mahone Bay Sub-District Number: T-1 Family Number: 39 Page: 4 Household Members: Name Age A Mary Millin 71 Jetta Smeltzer 17 View Original Record View original image View 1901 Form (English version) View 1901 Form -----Original Message----- From: genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genmassachusetts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Noble Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:25 AM To: GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Lookup Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. Volume 571, page 516. Like to know her parents names?? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The entry reads: Item 308, May 15, Lowell, Groom: Lowell C Delong, age 24, 1st marriage, residence Lowell, occupation Farmer, born Nova Scotia, parents Allister De Long, Sarah Chesley, Bride: Jetta L. Smetlzer, age 23?, 1st marriage, resident Lowell, occupation Milliner, born Nova Scotia, parents James Smetlzer and Sarah Stevens, Minister Arthur ? Hedges, Minister of the Gospel Lowell Sue Richart On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Lynde Randall <lynderandall@maine.rr.com>wrote: > Hi Richard, > Here is a Census that might help. I didn't see a marriage for Jetta. > Lynde Randall > > Richard Noble > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:25 AM > To: GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Lookup > > Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. > > I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. > Volume 571, page 516. > > Like to know her parents names?? >

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Hi listers I had a great aunt named Minnie Olive Robbins. Aunt Min never married and was a diector of nurses at a hospital in Marlborough, MA. Minnie died in 1953 so am thinking that her tenure there was between 1920's and 40's. Anyone know what hospital this might have been? I know my mother mentions in her diary that she went to see Aunt Min in Marlborough to have her appendix removed. Susan in Marshfield **************Big savings on Dell’s most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663377%3B36502382%3Bh)

I have been researching Hattstatt-Hatstat lines for many years now but I do not think I have all the information there is to be had about this line. Is there someone who lives close by the NEHGS who might be willing to spend some time looking for this name in their records--especially Soldiers and Sailors--MA,ME, NH,CT??? I am trying to sort our the family groups especially of the many "Georges" who were named after Georg Zacharias Hattstatt --the Hessian trooper-- through a few generations.He had 13 children in the USA. Some of these have been traced to present generations but others are still missing. All info reguarding the name Hatstat would be welcome as there is a book being planed to record this history. All who are Hatstat's or related to them are welcome to contact me and contribute information to be included in the book project. Thank you for your consideration. Jo Ann Hatstat---jo@vermontel.net

Hi, Jetta's parents were James SMELTZER and Sarah STEVENS.... She was age 23 and a Millener residing in Lowell. They married on 15 May 1907 in Lowell. Groom was Lowell C. DELONG -- age 24, a Farmer residing in Lowell -- son of Allister DELONG and Sarah CHESLEY. First marriage for both, both born Nova Scotia. Marriage performed by Arthur Hedge, Minister of the Gospel in Lowell. FYI - the NEHGS index has 4 results (including yours) for SMELTZER in Lowell: 4 records were found for ' smeltzer' in the following documents: Last Name First Name Town/Village Year Vol Page Type Original Image Non-Plugin Image Smeltzer Hannah B. Lowell 1910 595 516 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image Smeltzer Jetta L. Lowell 1907 571 516 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image Smeltzer Margaret (Boutilier) Lowell 1902 525 452 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image Smeltzer Miles G. Lowell 1909 57 30 Death View Image View Non-Plugin Image Also, they have 9 results (including yours) for DE LONG in Lowell: 9 records were found for ' de long' in the following documents: Last Name First Name Town/Village Year Vol Page Type Original Image Non-Plugin Image De Long Edward C. Lowell 1884 356 115 Death View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Edwin C. Lowell 1883 341 117 Birth View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Elsie Laliah Lowell 1904 547 474 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Francis E. Lowell 1854 79 110 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long James W. Lowell 1908 579 494 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Lowell C. Lowell 1907 571 516 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Thomas W. Lowell 1898 479 204 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long Wilbert Lowell 1892 425 208 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image De Long William A. Lowell 1909 587 503 Marriage View Image View Non-Plugin Image Let me know if you'd like any add'l. info. Best, Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Noble" <nobler@accesswave.ca> To: <GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Lookup > Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. > > I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. > Volume 571, page 516. > > Like to know her parents names?? > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. Volume 571, page 516. Like to know her parents names??

typo!! Chesley for grooms mother... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Noble" <nobler@accesswave.ca> To: <GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Lookup > Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. > > I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. > Volume 571, page 516. > > Like to know her parents names?? > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Smeltzer Jetta L. Lowell 1907 571 516 Marriage Item 308, May 15, Lowell, Lowell C. DeLong, 24, 1st marriage, residing Lowell, Farmer, born Nova Scotia, Allister DeLong, Sarah Cheley Jetta L. Smeltzer, 23, 1st marriage, residing Lowell, Milliner, born Nova Scotia, James Smeltzer, Sarah Stevens Arthur P. Wedges, Minister of the Gospel, Lowell date of record May 16 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Noble" <nobler@accesswave.ca> To: <GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Lookup > Can someone access the Mass. Marriages. > > I have Jetta L. Smeltzer marrying in Lowell, 1907. > Volume 571, page 516. > > Like to know her parents names??

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Lamb Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6945.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Carol. Because "fits" are mentioned, that makes me wonder whether the boy had Epilepsy. And, if he had the "seizures" on a regular basis, he wouldn't have been allowed to go to school. So, he might not have learned to "read and write," etc. And, Epilepsy can be fatal. One of my cousins developed Epilepsy shortly after birth, and he had "grand-mal seizures" for most of his childhood. He went to Children's Hospital in Boston for treatments, but they put him on all kinds of drugs. For both reasons, he was put in a "special" class, but did not do well. When he was approaching 30, his parents moved outside of Boston, and they found a new doctor. This doctor took away most of the drugs and put him on only a few of the important ones. The seizures were stopped. For the first time in his life, he was able to get a job, drive a car, and "date." But, someone with Epilepsy in the 1800's would not have been treated as well. Actually, I just remembered that my (now) husband had a great-uncle in Cambridge who had Epilepsy. He died in 1950's (?) because of it. During the 1800's there were probably "hundreds" of reasons why a person would be "placed" in an asylum. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (And, if you think that was a problem in the US, you should read a little on the 1800's in Great Britain.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, In this morning's MassMoment's e-mail, there is a story about all the towns which annexed off of Salem in the early 1600's, including Marblehead: http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=135 Betty (near Lowell, MA)

usually the census would indicate status as Patient/ Inmate or employee. Depends on the enumerator but usually you can tell the difference. all listed as individuals with a line of info for each, age, sex, where born etc. as the particular census year required.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cbotteron Surnames: Lamb, Greenleaf Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6945/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My ancestors James Harrison LAMB (b. 1822 Holliston) and Sarah Brown Greenleaf (b. 1822 Starks, Maine) married in 1842 and had five children. Their older son, James H. Lamb (Jr.), apparently had some sort of mental problem. He was born about 1846 in Mass. but I have been unable to find a birth or death record for him (or a birth record for his older sister Ella Sophronia Lamb). 1850 census and 1855 Mass. census: can't find the family. 1860 census (Framingham): father listed as Harrison Lamb, farm labor. Son James age 14, described as "fits, insane." 1865 Mass. census (Holliston): father listed as James H, cordwainer. Son James H. Jr. age 20, invalid. 1870 census (Holliston): father James H. works for boot factory. Son James H. age 25, no occupation, "idiotic." 1880 census: the family had moved to Cleveland, Ohio. Son James H. was not with them. Maybe son James was placed in a mental asylum after 1870. However, I cannot find a later census record or a death record for him in either Mass. or Ohio. Suggestions appreciated! Carol B. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There was some info within the past few days about a Robert Crowley. I'm looking for information on Robert Ambrose Crowley born about 1930-35 possibly in Quincy, MA? He was in the Navy. Does anyone have any info that would help. His daughter is trying to find info about him. Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Jean

Hello, My great grandfather I located I believe it was the 1930 census lists him as inmate at state hospital.....so yep they show up in census... Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: genmassachusetts-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:genmassachusetts-request@rootsweb.com> To: genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com<mailto:genmassachusetts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: GENMASSACHUSETTS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 138 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) 2. Enola DARRES/DOREY marriage? (Barbara Shepard Smith) 3. Re: Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) 4. Susan REMOND, 1850's "activist" (Betty) 5. Re: Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) 6. Vital Records after 1917, Mt. Vernon St., Dorchester ... (TOMIAMI@aol.com<mailto:TOMIAMI@aol.com>) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:33:21 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? To: <GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com<mailto:GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1241436802.96271@rootsweb.com<mailto:1241436802.96271@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Rice, Patience Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.1/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.1/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: Hello. This might help a little. This is my gr-gr-grandmother in 1880 in "Danvers." (This is a reminder to look for all spellings of names, as "Grandma RICE" was Adelaide. RICE, ADELANE C (1880 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , ESSEX, DANVERS Age: 28, Race: WHITE, Born: MA Series: T9 Roll: 528 Page: 33 The top of the page has written: Danvers Hospital. I don't have time to find out how many pages here list all the "Patients" that year. But, browsing through them will show all the ages. ALSO, Adelaide had given births in 1876 and 1878, and we will never know what her problem was. But, nowadays, we could say she "might" have had "Post-Partum Depression." Betty (near Lowell, MA) ALSO, Maybe 5 years ago I found out about a family-history book written by a man in Chelmsford. It's a large book about the PATIENCE family which lived in the Connecticut River Valley. I didn't read the book cover to cover, but I read several of the stories. One was about a lady who never married, and she lived with several family members during her younger adult years. But, when she got older, she decided she didn't want to live with them any longer. I don't believe she worked, so she didn't have an income. So, somehow she ended up in a facility (state hospital?), where she spent the rest of her life. She did not have a medical reason to live there; it was her choice. She was not "IN" a building; she roamed the grounds when she wanted to. AND, don't forget all the "women problems" which sent women to hospitals. Many husbands found ways to "admit" their unwanted wives to those hospitals / asylums. I even found out about a case in the 1980's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:17:28 -0400 From: "Barbara Shepard Smith" <wataptek131@verizon.net<mailto:wataptek131@verizon.net>> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Enola DARRES/DOREY marriage? To: "Massachusett's List" <GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com<mailto:GENMASSACHUSETTS@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <CE7283E1C87E4148833C863EA44B3F39@your27e1513d96<mailto:CE7283E1C87E4148833C863EA44B3F39@your27e1513d96>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello List, I have Enola Darres born in the late 1890's in Nova Scotia, who could have possibly moved to the "Boston States" and married. I am looking for her marriage if anyone can find it. The spelling could be any variation of the above names. Her brothers were scattered throughout New England in the lumber industry. Her father was accused of her mother's murder and did time in Nova Scotia, but came out and remarried, living in Lynn, Mass in 1920 with his daughter Goldie who was married to a Henry Burgess. Thank you, Barbara Middleboro, MA ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 14:58:07 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? To: <GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com<mailto:GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1241449087.158238@rootsweb.com<mailto:1241449087.158238@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fmrees Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: To find someone on the hospital census one has to search on the name - I don't believe the hospital census was in any special place, other than to be included in that of the town. I found one once - searching for a particular name - and the heading on the page indicated it as the hospital. I am sorry to say I forget the exact name (I believe it changed a few times over the course of its history). There is a nice site for it still: http://www.danversstateinsaneasylum.com/home.html<http://www.danversstateinsaneasylum.com/home.html> faye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:36:05 -0400 From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net<mailto:bbffrrpp@comcast.net>> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Susan REMOND, 1850's "activist" To: <genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <B86FC400C5FF4F5890B7F49EC8954CBC@LivingRoom<mailto:B86FC400C5FF4F5890B7F49EC8954CBC@LivingRoom>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello, In this morning's MassMoments e-mail there is another story about an important .woman.. in the history of MA: http://www.massmoments.org:80/moment.cfm?mid=133<http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=133> This is one paragraph: Her mother Nancy was the Newton-born daughter of a man who fought in the Continental Army; her father John was a free black who arrived from the Dutch island of Curacao as a ten-year-old boy in 1798. The Remonds settled in Salem, where they built successful catering, provisioning, and hairdressing businesses. and Although they were prosperous free citizens of Massachusetts and protective parents, they could not shield their eight children from racial discrimination. The family set great store by education, and in 1835, Sarah and her sister passed the examination to enter Salem High School. Within a week,a segregationist school committee forced them to leave the school. Outraged, the Remonds moved to Newport, RI, where Sarah attended a private school for blacks. I know someone with the REDMOND name, and I'm curious whether REMOND are sometimes mixed up in records. ..... Since the "theater" in Boston is mentioned, I could ask how many had an ancestor who was some type of entertainer in Boston. I could mention 2 stores. My mother had an aunt who married Hobart PHELPS and they lived in Lexington. I was reminded a few years ago that Uncle Hobart was an "entertainer." He was some type of "impersonator" in Scollay Square. (Aunt Ruby was a seamstress, and she made the bridesmaids gowns for my wedding. She and her older sister both lived long lives.) And, my grandmother, the twice-orphaned girl, was told many "family stories" which turn out to be many "family lies." When she was reportedly "found" on the streets of Boston in Feb. 1889, she was taken to a hospital. And she was told the nurses gave her the name, Daisy WATROUS. And, she was told that that was the name for a well-known entertainer in Boston at the time. 4-5 yrs. ago I wrote to the Boston Public Library. The Reference Dept. checked all their books of "entertainers," and that name did not appear in any of them. (Since when do nurses give a baby .. a surname?) :o( (In 1892 at her adoption her name was officially changed from Daisy WATROUS to Mary Anna Clark DEXTER. She had just turned 3. We knew that she had nicknames, like "May" or "Mamie," but I never heard her mention a possible nickname of Daisy.) (This name-change is in a book.) (Long, complicated story in archives of MA and CT Lists.) Betty (near Lowell, MA) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:25:50 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Mental asylums in MA? Any, and were they in census? To: <GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com<mailto:GenMassachusetts@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1241465150.115181@rootsweb.com<mailto:1241465150.115181@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cl238300 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2.1/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6943.4.2.1/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: Thank you for your response. What I am really looking for is an uncle who was born with Downs Syndrome and died as a young child. Back then it was a disgrace to have a child that was different and doctors insisted that they be put into an institution. I can find no records of birth, institution, or death. Everyone in the family has now passed on except for one uncle who denies anything that has to do with the family secrets. There is a family cemetery plot but either he is not buried there or he is not registered as being buried there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:39:57 EDT From: TOMIAMI@aol.com<mailto:TOMIAMI@aol.com> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Vital Records after 1917, Mt. Vernon St., Dorchester ... To: genmassachusetts-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:genmassachusetts-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <bca.49cded0e.3730d6cd@aol.com<mailto:bca.49cded0e.3730d6cd@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello. I think I may have to go to Boston to get this death record. I've spent many hours at the Archives, but not at the other building. I've heard it is somewhat difficult to work there. Can someone please tell me how this place works? Is it actually part of Bay State Convention center, or just close to it? Is there a parking lot? Where is it located? I'll use my GPS to find the address, but any tips appreciated. I'm not good at driving in Boston! Thanks. 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Do we know if these folks listed as inmates were actually mentally unstable? I realize some were workers in these hospitals, so, were they listed differently than the ones who were actually "incarcerated?" Joan Norstedt Oxnard, CA On May 5, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Kathleen Mayo wrote: Hello, My great grandfather I located I believe it was the 1930 census lists him as inmate at state hospital.....so yep they show up in census... Kathleen