Toby wrote: > Hi Betty, > > Having lived in SLC for 10 years, hopefully I can answer this question. > > I was told by a neighbor that at some point in time every LDS member > was to do a 4 generation (was it 5?) chart on his/her family tree. > Now, whether everyone did that or not is the big question. > > I'd start w/ the LDS church (called Stake) in Littleton. *If *there > is only one, they might know Bob personally and could answer this for > you. But you need to talk to someone at his Stake first. > > After that, you could contact someone in SLC at the FHL. I don't have > a suggestion as to where to write but I do know that the 4-(or > 5)generation charts are held there in a common place. > (Last time I saw them was in the Joseph Smith Bldg but they were > moving things here and yon at the time). > > So that's my suggestion. You could visit the Stake yourself if you > like (Meetinghouse refers to Quakers, I believe). You might have good > luck and I hope that you do. > > Sincerely, > > Toby (near Portland, OR) >> Hello, >> >> I have a question about whether you can request one person's "family tree" >> records from the Mormon Church. >> >> I'll explain a little. I've mentioned the HUTCHINSON Farm and the >> families that lived there many times. The HUTCHINSON's bought it from a >> GARDNER family in the 1720's and it existed until the 1950's. During the >> late 1800's, the families that lived there became "land rich and money >> poor." Somewhere around 1900 one-half of the farm was sold. When my >> "Grandma KIDDER" died in 1958, the seond half of the farm was sold. >> >> In that farm were 2 siblings who never married, so their parents, Thomas and >> Mary HUTCHINSON had no grandchildren. Across the street were Jacob and >> Eliza HUTCHINSON who had 3 children, but one daughter died as a teen. >> George was the their son. He married and had a son, Carleton. Carleton >> married and had a son, Leslie. There were several divorces in that >> extended family, so the children probably lived in 2 homes, or went back and >> forth. Carleton's EX lived in Cambridge, and that is where Leslie lived. >> And, even though we lived in the next town, I have no memory of meeting >> that family. >> >> It was only 2-3 years ago I took more interest in finding out more about >> Leslie. I found out he became Dr. Leslie "Loring" HUTCHINSON, a >> Podiatrist in Cambridge, possibly up past 1960. Then I found out he had >> married, and they had one son, Robert HUTCHINSON. >> >> Unfortunately, I didn't find out about "Bob" HUTCHINSON until 2 years after >> he had been killed in a car accident. Because he lived in Ayer and died >> in Westford, I was able to find his obituary. From that I found out he >> was a teacher in Ayer, and he had never married. That meant he was the >> last, male HUTCHINSON from the Farm in Winchester. * >> >> I went to Ayer Town Hall and saw the information on his death record. It >> said that a maternal cousin was the contact. I wrote to the lady, and she >> responded. But she didn't offer information, and she said that Bob did not >> know anything about his family-tree. >> >> When I reread his obituary last week, I was reminded that he was a member >> of the Mormon Church in Littleton. I mentioned that to a researcher in >> Ayer, and she reminded me -- if Bob did belong to that church, he "DID" >> know his family-tree ! (That had totally slipped by me 2 yrs. ago.) >> :o( >> >> *** So, my question is: Is there a way for me to obtain a copy of this >> family-tree of -- Robert Loring HUTCHINSON (1937-2005) -- from the >> Mormon Church ??? (Should I visit the meetinghouse in Littleton?) >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >> * There was another brother from the Farm, John HUTCHINSON, who moved to >> Brooklyn, NY, ~1860. I have not been able to find out about his >> descendants. >> >> >> FYI: In Bob HUTCHINSON's obituary, I was reminded that he graduated from >> BU. I took a chance and e-mailed the BU Alumni Office. Several days >> later I received a copy of a picture from a 1959 yearbook. I had an old >> picture of his grandfather, Carleton, and he looked just like him. So, his >> father, the doctor, probably looked like them. >> >> ( A few weeks ago I was at Bob's gravestone in Ayer, and someone had left a >> bouquet of roses.) >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

Hi again, Not necessarily. You need to go to the nearest FHC to where he lived. Toby (near Portland, OR) > So, does that mean that he probably did not submit his family-tree information to his church? > > >

Betty --   Just because Robert was a member of the LDS Church does not mean he knew about his family tree -- a great many members do not.  It isn't an automatic thing.  The Church does not trace your ancestry -- that is up to individuals to do.  Going to a meeting house won't be of any value as they don't hold any records like this -- and any membership records would be sent to Salt Lake City upon the member's death.   If Robert did any research into his ancestry he might have submitted it under the various choices you can search at www.familysearch.org.    Hope this helps. Judy --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: From: Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Question: Mormon Church Records To: genMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 9:28 AM Hello, I have a question about whether you can request one person's "family tree" records from the Mormon Church. I'll explain a little.     I've mentioned the HUTCHINSON Farm and the families that lived there many times.    The HUTCHINSON's bought it from a GARDNER family in the 1720's and it existed until the 1950's.    During the late 1800's, the families that lived there became "land rich and money poor."     Somewhere around 1900 one-half of the farm was sold.    When my "Grandma KIDDER" died in 1958, the seond half of the farm was sold. In that farm were 2 siblings who never married, so their parents, Thomas and Mary HUTCHINSON had no grandchildren.    Across the street were Jacob and Eliza HUTCHINSON who had 3 children, but one daughter died as a teen. George was the their son.   He married and had a son, Carleton.    Carleton married and had a son, Leslie.     There were several divorces in that extended family, so the children probably lived in 2 homes, or went back and forth.     Carleton's EX lived in Cambridge, and that is where Leslie lived. And, even though we lived in the next town,  I have no memory of meeting that family. It was only 2-3 years ago I took more interest in finding out more about Leslie.    I found out he became  Dr. Leslie "Loring" HUTCHINSON, a Podiatrist in Cambridge, possibly up past 1960.   Then I found out he had married, and they had one son, Robert HUTCHINSON. Unfortunately, I didn't find out about "Bob" HUTCHINSON until 2 years after he had been killed in a car accident.    Because he lived in Ayer and died in Westford, I was able to find his obituary.    From that I found out he was a teacher in Ayer, and he had never married.    That meant he was the last, male HUTCHINSON from the Farm in Winchester. * I went to Ayer Town Hall and saw the information on his death record.    It said that a maternal cousin was the contact.    I wrote to the lady, and she responded.   But she didn't offer information, and she said that Bob did not know anything about his family-tree. When I reread his obituary last week,  I was reminded that he was a member of the Mormon Church in Littleton.     I mentioned that to a researcher in Ayer, and she reminded me --  if Bob did belong to that church, he "DID" know his family-tree !     (That had totally slipped by me 2 yrs. ago.) :o( ***   So, my question is:    Is there a way for me to obtain a copy of this family-tree of  -- Robert Loring HUTCHINSON   (1937-2005)  --  from the Mormon Church ???      (Should I visit the meetinghouse in Littleton?) Betty         (near Lowell, MA) * There was another brother from the Farm, John HUTCHINSON, who moved to Brooklyn, NY, ~1860.    I have not been able to find out about his descendants. FYI:    In Bob HUTCHINSON's obituary, I was reminded that he graduated from BU.     I took a chance and e-mailed the BU Alumni Office.    Several days later I received a copy of a picture from a 1959 yearbook.    I had an old picture of his grandfather, Carleton, and he looked just like him.   So, his father, the doctor, probably looked like them. ( A few weeks ago I was at Bob's gravestone in Ayer, and someone had left a bouquet of roses.) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I have finished indexing the names for a new database for the Madeira Mamore Expedition of 1878 which involved constructing a railroad in Brazil by US engineers, contractors and laborers. The names are mostly PA, NJ, NY, DE, MA, MD, WV, KY and OH. My project started as a search for person named Philip BOWERS in my family tree who I finally found in one of the newspaper articles and my project since expanded into something much more. Since I had collected so much information I thought it might be a good time to share it with other researchers. The project consists of two web pages: 1) a source or reference page (bibliography) with links to where the names were found, and 2) the database of names to which it is linked You can access both at the web site below: http://web.rtmc.net/~bobmoyer/1878/sources.htm I you have a missing person from this time period you need to check the database, especially if they were from PA, NJ, NY, DE or MD. The names in the list are not currently found by searching the Internet or Rootsweb. Rootsweb support said the names will all eventually become indexed - indexing runs in two month cycles. Short Synopsis: The Disastrous American Expedition of 1878 that included the contractors P. & T. Collins (Col. George Earl Church) and the laborers who went to Brazil to build a railroad was also called the "The Railroad of Death" and a "railroad from no-place to no-where". It was estimated that a worker died for every sleeper that was laid in the jungle and the loss of workers was on a scale that rivaled the Panama Canal project. The purpose of this project is to create a database of names by transcribing newspaper accounts, books and other sources about the expedition. Careful attention has been given to separate these names from the later Farquar/Jekyll expedition of 1907-1912. Thousands of men from many countries lost their lives in both expeditions. I've read that many men kept diaries while working in Brazil and I have a few in my sources but I'm sure there are others. If you have anything to add I would welcome your contribution. Happy Hunting - please let me know if you find anything helpful. Sincerely, Bob Moyer Instructor, Ed2go - Genealogy Basics Researching the Pennsylvania names of Moyer, Rempp, Klug, Mattern, Magargal and BOWERS, the name that originally started this project. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ITALIANS-PA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might want to probe some more as it was common to use a 'vault' in mid-winter for a temporary interment, pending mild weather and the ability to dig a grave. And not all cemeteries have vaults, so a vault at a different cemetery might have been used until Spring. In a message dated 6/6/2009 11:32:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unkno wn/6966.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I corrected the name of Clarksburg to a town in Berkshire Co MA in a later posting. I did a Google search on it. There is a map of the towns on the USGenweb Berkshire Co MA site. Clarksburg is the most northern village of the county and abuts onto North Adams. We have a supposed death year for James Priest as 1928. On Elizabeth Priest's death cert it states she was a widow. She died 5 Feb 1941 at 767 S. Church St, North Adams, Berkshire Co MA. She resided at Red Mills, Clarksburg, Berkshire Co MA. It states she was buried in a Vault but no cemetery name. Thanks for your response, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Moses MEEK b 03 August 1707 Marblehead, Essex Co., MA d ?? marr. 23 December 1728 Marblehead Alice HOMAN. Their daughter, Alice MEEK b 1736 marr. 10 May 1753 Marblehead Peter LaFRANCE b 1728 d PA. I believe Moses parents were Richard MEEK b 1668 marr. 12 June 1699 Marblehead Mary PALMER. Moses Meek goes off the radar after the birth of his last child in 1746. The Peter LaFRANCE (Jr.) family was in NJ (son of the Peter above) and was shown as a taxable person in Pequannock Twp., Morris Co., NJ in 1778. Perhaps the MEEK and LaFRANCE families had moved to NJ during Moses Meek's lifetime??? Anyone have any MEEK family in Pequannock Twp., Morris Co., NJ that may have migrated from MA?? Thanks * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ ~~~~~ Speak kind words/hear kind echoes ~~~~~

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I corrected the name of Clarksburg to a town in Berkshire Co MA in a later posting. I did a Google search on it. There is a map of the towns on the USGenweb Berkshire Co MA site. Clarksburg is the most northern village of the county and abuts onto North Adams. We have a supposed death year for James Priest as 1928. On Elizabeth Priest's death cert it states she was a widow. She died 5 Feb 1941 at 767 S. Church St, North Adams, Berkshire Co MA. She resided at Red Mills, Clarksburg, Berkshire Co MA. It states she was buried in a Vault but no cemetery name. Thanks for your response, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Betty, We do not know if the correct maiden name for Elizabeth was Marshall or Smith. We know she was born in June 1884 in England. We have not found a passenger list that includes her but she was in NY by 1917. We believe that she was the person who married John Barton in Kinderhook, Columbia Co NY om 14 July, 1914. I say 'believe' because the bride's name was Elizabeth LaPaugh. We are positive that Elizabeth ? was the mother of Cora Elizabeth Barton b 27 Oct 1917 in Poestenskill, Rensselaer Co, NY. The father was John Barton b 1 Sept 1858 NY. He died 3 Feb 1918 Sand Lake, Rensselaer Co NY. We lose tract of Elizabeth ? Barton until 1925 when she married James Priest in North Adams, Berkshire Co MA. Have searched all censuses without success. Dght Cora Elizabeth Barton was in the Troy City Asylum, Rensselaer Co NY orphanage on the 1920 census. She was a ward of the court until her marriage in 1937 in North Adams, Berkshire Co MA. That indicates to us that she must have been reunited with her mother, Elizabeth ? Barton Priest. On Cora's marriage license it gives the name of her parents and that is where we find the maiden name of Marshall for her mother. I am assisting a man who is the son of Cora Elizabeth Barton with this research. We are members of the same local genealogy study group. He has spent 15 yrs trying to unravel this brick wall and his mother worked on it before her death. I have read that Berkshire CO MA was once part of NY so I am assuming that it was a common occurrence for people to move btw the two states. Regards, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Several Articles on robert Long family and oritgins found in New England Historical Genealogical Register. NEHGR. Includes English origins and possible first wife Stevens.

s Dup indicates taken from VR's copied by Henry short. CT.R is court records.

>From Torrey's New England Marriages Supplement Mary Long and Jonathan Griffin 2nd marriage to Daniel Mussilloway: 1st m. 25 Oct. 1676 Sudbury [ASBO, p, 165] Newbury marriages: Mary Griffin and Daniel Sillaway, Sept. 7, 1687. CT. R.Thus inconsistent records or amalysis. Several births of Mary and Daniel in Newbury, MA Name variously Osilloway, Silloway, Mussilloway etc.

>From Newbury VR's search & Reaerch CD. Marriages: Robert Long and Alice Short ___[164___?] Mary Long & Jonathan___Oct. 24, 1676 Births: Mary d. Robert Feb. 22, 1647 [1646 s. Dup.] deaths; Alice wf of dea. Robert Jan. 17, 1690/91 Dea. Robert Dec. 27, 1690.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Irish719 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6964.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you share any other details that might help find them...e.g. approx timeframe, etc? I did find the following for Guiseppe Ravalli 1. WWI Draft Reg Card resided at 104 River Haverhill Essex Mass born in Italy on Feb 13 1878 wife is Vincenzina 2. WWII Draft Reg Card resided at 23 Cushing St Waltham MA Age 64, b Feb 13 1878 in Vittoria, Syracuse Italy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bbffrrpp Surnames: Priest, Marshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again. I just went to find the web site for North Adams, MA, and was reminded that it is a city ! So, you would be writing to the Clerk's Office in the City of North Adams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Adams,_Massachusetts Betty (near Lowell, MA) (P.S. I am curious whether Miss MARSHALL went directly from England to MA, or came through Canada.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am getting this info 'piece meal'. I did a Google search and found that Clarksburg is in Berkshire Co MA at the most northern border. It adjoins North Adams. Thank you for the response. Regards, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On the USGenweb site for Berkshire Co MA there are maps of the towns. Clarksburg has a good one but I did not see Red Mills listed. I also didn't determine when the map was drawn. Thanks for taking the time to look. Regards, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: spricker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I "googled" Red Mill, Clarksburg County and found that there is a Clarksburg State Park with a Red Mill Brook - both near North Adams. Perhaps there was once an area of North Adams called Clarksburg. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wataptek131 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have lived in Mass all my life and have never heard of a town called Red Mill, or a county of Clarksburg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bjh1225 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6966.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I now have a copy of the death certificate. It reads: Elizabeth Marshall Priest age 57 b London, England She is listed as the widow of James Priest. It shows she died in North Adams, Berkshire Co MA but she resided in Red Mill, Clarksburg Co MA. I am hoping that someone will be able to locate an obituary for her and/or her husband. Thanks, Bettye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.