Hello, I only have time for a quick question this morning. I am trying to solve a "mystery," and it would help if I could find descendants of: Francis KIDDER and Lucy (?) who might have married in Concord, MA ~1751. They had 10 children, with the first 5 born in Concord, starting in 1752, and going up to 1774. Francis was born in ~1730 in Chelmsford / Westford, MA. His father, Thomas KIDDER "dropped dead" in 1729 - the day that Westford was annexing off of Chelmsford. Researchers believe that his widow, Mrs. Joanna (KEYES) KIDDER, was pregnant with their 5th son at the time, and that was Francis. Francis seems to have lived in several towns in MA during the 1750's to 1800. He was probably the Francis KIDDER who died in Tyngsboro in 1811. The "KIDDER book" has information on the 7 sons of Francis and Lucy, but no information on their 3 daughters. Several of the sons remained close to their cousins in New Ipswich, NH, and some moved there. I can offer information from the book if anyone is interested. (One note is that some of Francis' sons "inherited" important KIDDER items, formerly belonging to Francis' father, Thomas, and they were given to them by their uncle, Reuben KIDDER, New Ipswich.) Betty (near Lowell, MA) (Another note: The widow, Mrs. KIDDER, remarried and had more children. Information is in the archives of the Lists.) Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.

>From Mass Vital Records at NEHGS Births Corey - 368:137 #351, 3 Sept 1886 Henry J - 404:176 #1347, 2 May 1890 Henry - 413:200 #677, 21 Nov 1891 Marie B - 449:208 #445, 20 Nov 1895 Mary A - 386:177 #1579, 6 Dec 1888 Oscar Marie - 94:333, 1898 Amended Record no Image All show parents as John & Dina, he is a grocer, both born Canada Deaths Antonio - 428:237 #1063, 3 Jun 1892, 8m 14d, Measles Bertha - 56:35, 7 Jan 1904, 1m 17d, 90 Ford St, Meningitis, buried 9 Jan 1904 St Patrick Cemetery Lowell [didn't find her birth listed as Lowell ] Marianne E - 392:148 #1332, 3 Oct 1888, 9m 13d, Cholera Infantum, (John & Dianna) [didn't find her birth listed a Lowell] Marie ? ? [not sure of initials] - 401:127 #392, 28 Mar 1889, 2m 6d, Diptheria Marie E ? [not sure of initial] - 401:129 #453, 9 Apr 1889, 3y 10m 2d, Heart Disease, born Canada Except for Marianne, all show parents John & Dina, both born Canada Could someone check Adolard 419:224 died Lowell 11 Jul 1891 ae 11 mos?  He may be another child of John & Dina but the maiden name doesn't look like Gregoire to me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CBlaisdell8854 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6968.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Laura born Newburyport parents are William and Ellen Barron Laura born in Holyoke parents are Eusebe and Adele Lepage Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tygoon Surnames: Gauthier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/6968/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the birth of Laura Gauthier, daughter of Johnny Gauthier and Euphemie Levesque. She was born in 1892. According to the Mass Archives, there is two Laura Gauthier : Gauthier, Laura, Holyoke, 1892, vol. 421, p 631 Gauthier, Laura, Newburyport, 1892, vol. 421. P. 466 Is she one of them ? Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, I'd just like to remind researchers that there is a GAVIN List. I adopted it about a year or so ago, but I just checked and there are less than 25 subscribers. If anyone is interested, this is the information page: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/g/gavin.html My (now) husband's great-grandparents were a GAVIN / WHELAN couple who were born in County Galway, Ireland, ~1860. They both came to Massachusetts ~1883 and married in Waltham, MA, in 1884. They had many children there. I'd love to find descendants of that family. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (I don't think the GAVIN Message Board is gatewayed to this List. I'll check on that.)

For the information Faye and Janice as always thanks for the list. I bookmarked it. Jan

Janet A sawyer is someone who makes their living sawing wood.. wonder if your relative might have been the one cutting the pieces for the cabinet of a piano... just a guess faye ---- Janet Lyman <squash1909@verizon.net> wrote: > I am looking up a relative for someone and on one record they are listed as > Piano Sawyer and the other just Sawyer. I can't find anything to indicate > what this is? Has anyone ever heard of it? > > > > Thanks > Jan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking up a relative for someone and on one record they are listed as Piano Sawyer and the other just Sawyer. I can't find anything to indicate what this is? Has anyone ever heard of it? Thanks Jan

Could someone please look up Catharin Sherman born in about 1814 in New Hampshire, possibly the town of Freedom, so see if there are any parents listed? She was the wife of Simon Huckins Mills, and my gr gr gr grandmother. Title: New England Historical & Genealogical Register Repository: Media: Book Page: 68:93 Thank you in advance faye

I am still looking for marriage of my great-aunt Dina Gregoire (Dinah / Deena) and Louis-Henri-Tharee Vincent (alias John T. Vincent) in the Lowell area. Many of you have been wonderfully helpful with suggestions. I've pinned down that Dina was still living in Canada, unmarried, up to 1883 and immigrated to Lowell sometime that year. The marriage definitely was NOT in Canada, so it had to be in the Lowell areabetween 1883 and 1886. Still searching! But now I'm working on the rest of the family... The 1910 census says Dina had 9 children, of whom 3 were living The 1920 census has 10 children, of whom 3 were living I finally got in touch with the grandson of one of the 3 that lived. However he knows next to nothing about his grandmother, or his father's siblings. Actually, he is thrilled to get what I have. Using various sites, I've managed to find approx. dates of birth and names for 7 of the 9 or 10. Could someone verify these for me with Mass Vitals? I tried the Lowell Vitals, but it doesn't handle pre-1900 data. Would deaths of small infants have been recorded? All would have died before 1910 except the three with a star (*) Corey Vincent, born 2 Sept 1886 - Not living at the 1910 census *Annais or Annie Vincent, born 6 Dec 1888 Henri Vincent, born around May 1st, 1890 Antoine Vincent, born 23 Sept 1891 Bertha Vincent, born 20 Nov 1895 *Oscar Vincent, born 8 Aug 1898 *Edward Vincent, born 01 Aug 1902 (the only one verified) The 10th child would have been born between the two censuses... (Unless she realized that she had miscounted earlier.) There are 2 gaps where another child might appear, bet. 1891-1895, and 1898-1903 and possibly another bet. 1895-1898. That would account for 10. Any help greatly appreciated Sister Therese Gregoire _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009

Hello, While I was typing a few minutes ago, I heard a story on the TODAY Show (TV) about a man who had discovered an abandoned cemetery on the grounds of an old "mental-health hospital." I didn't hear the beginning of the story, so I Googled, and found the story on-line: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31127332/ I'm just offering it as an FYI. One lady interviewed said she went to work in that hospital - partly because she wanted to find out about her great-grandfather's life there. This is how the article starts: Sometimes spring uncovers unexpected stories. Bud Merritt was hiking in Milledgeville, Ga., when he came across a long-forgotten cemetery. "There almost seemed to be no end to it. You would find areas where there were no markers. And then you walk a few yards and you would find more," he explains. It turns out Bud had discovered a lost cemetery of patients at the largest mental hospital in the United States. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (My great-grandfather of Princeton, Maine, spent the last 5 years of his life in the Bangor State Hospital. He had lived with his MA wife in Winchester, MA, for less than 20 years, and then returned to Princeton. When he died at the hospital in 1943, for whatever reason, his wife had his body brought down to Winchester to be buried here.) (My grandmother's Adoptive father went to the Tewksbury State Hospital in 1904 and died there in 1905. His wife's body had been returned to CT when she died in 1899. But he was buried in an almost, unmarked grave on the grounds of the Hospital.) (Story in archives of Lists.)

Hello, I was just looking for more information on Thomas HUTCHINSON on the farm in Winchester, and came across the 1880 census. It shows his widowed mother, and he and his sister, and then 2 farm workers. This showed that they still had a working farm in 1880. I believe it was ~1883 when their farmhouse and barn - burned to the ground. I thought I would mention the names of the 2 workers, in case it will help someone: Charles W. HADLEY, 26, born Nova Scotia, and Richard GAMREY, 20, born New Brunswick. My ancestor, Jacob, lived across the street in the other farmhouse (with a larger barn). I just checked his family in 1880. Jacob and Eliza HUTCHINSON, had their married (separated) daughter, Adelaide, and her 2 young daughters living with them. They had 3 workers living with them: Kate DUNN, 23, born MA, but parents born IRE and SCOT, Christie VESTERGAARD, 23, born Denmark, and Frank A. WHEATEN, 20, born MA, par. b. MA. Around the time of Jacob and Eliza's deaths in the 1890's, that half of the large farm was sold. The other half was still in the hands of the unmarried, adult children, Thomas and Mary. (They and an uncle "left" their half to their cousin's daughters, Louise and Edith. My "Grandma KIDDER" thus lived in the farm from maybe 1920, and my family moved in with her in 1940's. We lived in the replacement farmhouse. My great-uncle said that the replacement farmhouse "was built with short nails." (The barn was not replaced.) FYI: I might have been 1870-1872, when Charles W. RICE might have left Lubec, Maine, to come down to MA to work on that HUTCHINSON Farm. That is the only guess as to how he met Adelaide HUTCHINSON. They married in Boston on - June 9, 1875 - and had 2 daughters, but "separated" shortly after. I don't think I've ever found him in the 1880 census. It took me a long time to find out he became a live-in gardener at a mansion in Milton. Betty (near Lowell, MA) FYI: Speaking of my great-uncle, he was almost killed at Age 9 while standing in the street in Winchester Center. For maybe 10 years I have wanted to find the "newspaper report" of that accident. The Ref. Dept. at the Woburn Library just found it for me last week. The "family story" varied slightly from what I read last week. But this story was much harder to read. It was a "5-ton truck" that ran over his leg ! It happened in Dec. 1916; we never knew the date. (My Adelaide wouldn't have been found on a search, as her married surname was mistyped. It shows as RICEW, instead of RICE

Hello, While posting information on the "British Home Children" List this morning, I was reminded that I never tried to find out if my great-grandparents had left "a will." J.S. LEWIS was the owner/editor of 2, independent newspapers in Stoneham, and he owned a printing shop there. This would have been ~1884 to ~1923. If the businesses were successful, he might have earned some money. (Although his 13 children might have found a use for his money.) :o) I have found about 10 descendants of "Grandpa LEWIS" and none of them knew anything about my (their) great-grandparents. Mr. LEWIS was living in Stoneham in 1923, but he decided to "live his last days" in NH; he died there and is buried there. Mrs. LEWIS, as a widow, had moved to Lynn and she died in 1924. IF I drove to Cambridge this month, and went to "Family & Probate Court" would it be fairly easy to obtain their "wills?" I did go there 3-4 years ago, and was able to look at a will from the 1930's. I seem to remember I was in the building for a long time. I was just curious if anything had changed in that department. Or, when I walk in, will everything be the same? Actually I could ask whether things are about the same in every Family & Probate Court in every County in MA. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (I could mention that the "will" I was able to look at, and make a copy of, 3-4 years ago was for Miss Mary HUTCHINSON of Winchester. She, and her brother, were unmarried adults. I didn't think there would be too much money being mentioned. I did find names and information that I needed. Actually, if I go to Cambridge, I should try to find the will of her brother, Thomas, who had died several years before her. That might mention "family money.") (However, I was told that the HUTCHINSON's in Winchester in the late 1800's had become "land rich and money poor.")

----- Original Message ----- Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] NEHGS Lookup Please - KEMP > I'd like to cross off a few more from my growing wishlist, if anyone is > willing. I found possibles in the birth index on the archives site, so I > will put the Name, City, Year, Volume, Page, if that helps. > Seeking Births for: > > Lillian Violet KEMP - Boston 1891 414 120 item 71, July 1, Lillian Violet Kemp, f, born at 269 Lexington, William H. & Cora O?, residing Boston, boatman, Nahant, Kennebunksport, ME > Winifred Lucia KEMP - Boston 1887 378 166 item 7438, Sept 4, Winifred Lucia Kemp, f, Ward, 513, Charles W. & Lucy E., residing Boston, Clerk, Wellfleed, Danvers > Harrison Sanborn KEMP - Boston 1888 307 88 correction to Vol 387, page 88 item 3936, July 10, Harrison Sanborn Kemp, m, 135 Eutaw, William H. & Cora, residing Boston, boatman, Nahant, Kennebunkport > Evelyn Nathan KEMP - Boston 1900 499 287 item 12907, June 2, Evelyn Nathan Kemp, f, w, 29 Lexington, Daniel & Mary H. Clark, residing Boston, marine engineer, Nahant, S. Berwick, ME > > Thanks in advance for your time. I greatly appreciate even 1 of them > looked > up. Any bits to cross off my wishlist are always appreciated :)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: acdcez1 Surnames: Bordwell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.unknown/334.344.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wanted to reply to your post....My name is Joy Bordwell and my huge family live in Spokane, WA my grandfather John Henry Bordwell also worked for Northern Burlington RR, there is also another Bordwell family that resided her (we could find no relation) his name was Elmer Bordwell...he also worked for RR..weird huh. We are probably related. My grandfather had 10 children, and died in 1962, he was married to Julia Mahar/ Maher..I have lots of info on my family..I am to be related to a William Bordwell, several..lol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'd like to cross off a few more from my growing wishlist, if anyone is willing. I found possibles in the birth index on the archives site, so I will put the Name, City, Year, Volume, Page, if that helps. Seeking Births for: Lillian Violet KEMP - Boston 1891 414 120 Winifred Lucia KEMP - Boston 1887 378 166 Harrison Sanborn KEMP - Boston 1888 307 88 Evelyn Nathan KEMP - Boston 1900 499 287 Thanks in advance for your time. I greatly appreciate even 1 of them looked up. Any bits to cross off my wishlist are always appreciated :) -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am house-bound, so can only search from home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) Need a Massachusetts Vital Record from before 1850? Please feel free to ask. I can look them up on my discs, no problem :) http://branches.fieryangel.net/leaves (very old but it something)

Hi again, Thank you for the responses received so far. Perhaps I should have explained that I already have a good amount of information on the descendants of George HUTCHINSON of 1600's Charlestown. And that includes basic information on his descendants who lived on the farm in Winchester.* I just wanted to see what information Bob Hutchinson had accomulated - so that I could compare it with my information. There is an LDS Center in Nashua, and I visited it a few years ago. I only wanted to see what it was about. I didn't have my notes with me. I will try to go there next month and ask them what they think. I just went to www.familysearch.org and did a search of .. "all records" and he is mentioned once, with only the names of his parents and nothing else. And, he is mentioned in the SSDI. So, does that mean that he probably did not submit his family-tree information to his church? (As far as I know, he did not have any paternal cousins, but he did have many maternal cousins (GUINEY family). So, maybe his cousin who arranged the funeral for him was correct, and he did not know about his father's side of the family.) Have a pleasant week ! Betty (near Lowell, MA) (Unfortunately, I do not have a web site or a data base. But, almost everything I know about my ancestors can be found on-line.) (By the way, I do not have the time or the ambition to "enter data" into genealogy software. I enjoy the "Lists" too much. But, I would like to start up a project I started 5 years ago. I want to type up a set of reports about each set of great-grandparents. Is there a genealogy software which allows you to do that -- rather than "inputting names and dates?")

Betty: We went to one of the LDS family history centers and found some helpful volunteers and good links ot information. I don't know if you can get a person's tree per se, but if you find the people for whom you are looking on the familysearch.org website you can use those film numbers to make requests to see the actual microfilms. They had various other resources available too. You can look on the familysearch site too to find what centers are near you, their hours, contact info, etc. Looks like the closest one to you might be in Salem, or possibly Exeter, NH. The people who staff the center offices are some of those same ones who are transcribing the records onto the website. Good luck faye ---- Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question about whether you can request one person's "family tree" > records from the Mormon Church. > > I'll explain a little. I've mentioned the HUTCHINSON Farm and the > families that lived there many times. The HUTCHINSON's bought it from a > GARDNER family in the 1720's and it existed until the 1950's. During the > late 1800's, the families that lived there became "land rich and money > poor." Somewhere around 1900 one-half of the farm was sold. When my > "Grandma KIDDER" died in 1958, the seond half of the farm was sold. > > In that farm were 2 siblings who never married, so their parents, Thomas and > Mary HUTCHINSON had no grandchildren. Across the street were Jacob and > Eliza HUTCHINSON who had 3 children, but one daughter died as a teen. > George was the their son. He married and had a son, Carleton. Carleton > married and had a son, Leslie. There were several divorces in that > extended family, so the children probably lived in 2 homes, or went back and > forth. Carleton's EX lived in Cambridge, and that is where Leslie lived. > And, even though we lived in the next town, I have no memory of meeting > that family. > > It was only 2-3 years ago I took more interest in finding out more about > Leslie. I found out he became Dr. Leslie "Loring" HUTCHINSON, a > Podiatrist in Cambridge, possibly up past 1960. Then I found out he had > married, and they had one son, Robert HUTCHINSON. > > Unfortunately, I didn't find out about "Bob" HUTCHINSON until 2 years after > he had been killed in a car accident. Because he lived in Ayer and died > in Westford, I was able to find his obituary. From that I found out he > was a teacher in Ayer, and he had never married. That meant he was the > last, male HUTCHINSON from the Farm in Winchester. * > > I went to Ayer Town Hall and saw the information on his death record. It > said that a maternal cousin was the contact. I wrote to the lady, and she > responded. But she didn't offer information, and she said that Bob did not > know anything about his family-tree. > > When I reread his obituary last week, I was reminded that he was a member > of the Mormon Church in Littleton. I mentioned that to a researcher in > Ayer, and she reminded me -- if Bob did belong to that church, he "DID" > know his family-tree ! (That had totally slipped by me 2 yrs. ago.) > :o( > > *** So, my question is: Is there a way for me to obtain a copy of this > family-tree of -- Robert Loring HUTCHINSON (1937-2005) -- from the > Mormon Church ??? (Should I visit the meetinghouse in Littleton?) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > * There was another brother from the Farm, John HUTCHINSON, who moved to > Brooklyn, NY, ~1860. I have not been able to find out about his > descendants. > > > FYI: In Bob HUTCHINSON's obituary, I was reminded that he graduated from > BU. I took a chance and e-mailed the BU Alumni Office. Several days > later I received a copy of a picture from a 1959 yearbook. I had an old > picture of his grandfather, Carleton, and he looked just like him. So, his > father, the doctor, probably looked like them. > > ( A few weeks ago I was at Bob's gravestone in Ayer, and someone had left a > bouquet of roses.) > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENMASSACHUSETTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have a question about whether you can request one person's "family tree" records from the Mormon Church. I'll explain a little. I've mentioned the HUTCHINSON Farm and the families that lived there many times. The HUTCHINSON's bought it from a GARDNER family in the 1720's and it existed until the 1950's. During the late 1800's, the families that lived there became "land rich and money poor." Somewhere around 1900 one-half of the farm was sold. When my "Grandma KIDDER" died in 1958, the seond half of the farm was sold. In that farm were 2 siblings who never married, so their parents, Thomas and Mary HUTCHINSON had no grandchildren. Across the street were Jacob and Eliza HUTCHINSON who had 3 children, but one daughter died as a teen. George was the their son. He married and had a son, Carleton. Carleton married and had a son, Leslie. There were several divorces in that extended family, so the children probably lived in 2 homes, or went back and forth. Carleton's EX lived in Cambridge, and that is where Leslie lived. And, even though we lived in the next town, I have no memory of meeting that family. It was only 2-3 years ago I took more interest in finding out more about Leslie. I found out he became Dr. Leslie "Loring" HUTCHINSON, a Podiatrist in Cambridge, possibly up past 1960. Then I found out he had married, and they had one son, Robert HUTCHINSON. Unfortunately, I didn't find out about "Bob" HUTCHINSON until 2 years after he had been killed in a car accident. Because he lived in Ayer and died in Westford, I was able to find his obituary. From that I found out he was a teacher in Ayer, and he had never married. That meant he was the last, male HUTCHINSON from the Farm in Winchester. * I went to Ayer Town Hall and saw the information on his death record. It said that a maternal cousin was the contact. I wrote to the lady, and she responded. But she didn't offer information, and she said that Bob did not know anything about his family-tree. When I reread his obituary last week, I was reminded that he was a member of the Mormon Church in Littleton. I mentioned that to a researcher in Ayer, and she reminded me -- if Bob did belong to that church, he "DID" know his family-tree ! (That had totally slipped by me 2 yrs. ago.) :o( *** So, my question is: Is there a way for me to obtain a copy of this family-tree of -- Robert Loring HUTCHINSON (1937-2005) -- from the Mormon Church ??? (Should I visit the meetinghouse in Littleton?) Betty (near Lowell, MA) * There was another brother from the Farm, John HUTCHINSON, who moved to Brooklyn, NY, ~1860. I have not been able to find out about his descendants. FYI: In Bob HUTCHINSON's obituary, I was reminded that he graduated from BU. I took a chance and e-mailed the BU Alumni Office. Several days later I received a copy of a picture from a 1959 yearbook. I had an old picture of his grandfather, Carleton, and he looked just like him. So, his father, the doctor, probably looked like them. ( A few weeks ago I was at Bob's gravestone in Ayer, and someone had left a bouquet of roses.)

> Hi again, > > Not necessarily. You need to go to the nearest FHC to where he lived. > > Toby (near Portland, OR) >> So, does that mean that he probably did not submit his family-tree >> information to his church? >> >> >> > >