At 02:44 PM 12/30/2011, Joan wrote: >I'm looking for the birth & death of James G. PORTER of Lynn, Ma. When? Dale H. Cook, Member, NEHGS and MA Society of Mayflower Descendants; Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project Administrator of http://plymouthcolony.net

Hello, I'm looking for the birth & death of James G. PORTER of Lynn, Ma. I'm having a mental block, day. Thanks for any direction you might give me. Joan

Hello,   No problems with access to the criminal records........they form part of my Ancestry package.   Thank you for the offer.   Happy New Year.   Tony Cocks From: theclown16 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Peter Lodge <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Friday, 30 December 2011, 15:34 Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England I agree with the analysis. Also Corneillous in name shows up rarely so circumstantially he is the son of Henry and Amelia if not only as the son indicated in the 1841 census. aged 7 closer to the date of Christening. The Criminal records in one case indicate he was listed with alias Randell. to Complicate research. Do you have the Criminal Records available online at Ancestry.com ? theclown16

I agree there are differing ages in years of birth in some of the records but as you also note this is not uncommon in records in this timeframe ~ for all sorts of reasons......   I would also say that "Millie" is likely a "petname" for Amelia? And, probably Henry was Henry John or vice-versa??? Have you tried to locate Cornelius' birth record in Wiltshire, England? Also his parents marriage, deaths?   I had also found Cornelius and Mary Anne in the various US census, I also found several of their children's marriages.....have you tried researching Cornelius' sibling lines as sometimes these uncover additional information..   Regards Janice     --- On Fri, 30/12/11, Tony Cocks <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England To: "theclown16" <[email protected]> Cc: "Peter Lodge" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, 30, December, 2011, 9:55 AM Hello theclown16,   I am extremely grateful for all your research into Cornelius RANDOLPH.   Certainly there is a huge amount of information that can be expanded into a Biography........which is the essential element of my PhD work on the juvenile offenders entering Parkhurst Prison between 1838-1864.     However, my fear is that it will all come to nought unless we can establish his parentage.    And that, of course, seems to be the fateful "brickwall" that so many genealogists meet in trying to substantiate a vital link.   Hopefully someone can provide the magic demolition!!   Thank you once again.   Tony Cocks   From: theclown16 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Peter Lodge <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011, 17:23 Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England Note: ages vary on each census but assume same family. Immigration and Naturalization years shown. I think they may have been married in England.; 1920 United States Federal Census about Cornelius Randolph Name:     Cornelius Randolph Age:     99 Birth Year:     abt 1821 Birthplace:     England Home in 1920:     Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts Race:     White Gender:     Male Immigration Year:     1869 Relation to Head of House:     Self (Head) [Head] Marital Status:     Married Spouse's Name:     Mary Anne Randolph Father's Birthplace:     England Mother's Birthplace:     England Home Owned:     Own Able to Read:     Yes Able to Write:     Yes Neighbors:     Household Members:     Name     Age Cornelius Randolph     99 Mary Anne Randolph     82 Lillian Dorothy Rosback     14 theclown16

I agree with the analysis. Also Corneillous in name shows up rarely so circumstantially he is the son of Henry and Amelia if not only as the son indicated in the 1841 census. aged 7 closer to the date of Christening. The Criminal records in one case indicate he was listed with alias Randell. to Complicate research. Do you have the Criminal Records available online at Ancestry.com ? theclown16

Thank you for all the help.   I have searched for a John Randolph and his wife Millie (nee Black) through all the UK sources avalable on-line in the Trowbridge, Wiltshire, area and have a NIL result and am very inclined to your belief about "Millie" (Amelia) and John as John Henry or Henry John.........reminds me of a childhood song:   There was a man who had two sons, and these two sons were brothers, the name of one was Henry John, John Henry was the other"!!!!   Therefore on the balance of probabilities I am assuming Cornelius RANDOLPH was the son of Henry and Amelia, christened on 11/08/1833 at Steeple Ashton, near Trowbridge, Wiltshire, according to the IGI Individual Record.    Incidentally, on the Ancestry "Family Trees" website there are references to other members of the family, with Cornelius quoted as a brother, but that is the only information given and no "leads" from that point.   However, I might write to the subscriber in the New Year "just in case".   Happy New Year and again I am very grateful.   Tony Cocks     From: Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> To: theclown16 <[email protected]>; Tony Cocks <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011, 22:09 Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England I agree there are differing ages in years of birth in some of the records but as you also note this is not uncommon in records in this timeframe ~ for all sorts of reasons...... I would also say that "Millie" is likely a "petname" for Amelia? And, probably Henry was Henry John or vice-versa??? Have you tried to locate Cornelius' birth record in Wiltshire, England? Also his parents marriage, deaths? I had also found Cornelius and Mary Anne in the various US census, I also found several of their children's marriages.....have you tried researching Cornelius' sibling lines as sometimes these uncover additional information. Regards Janice --- On Fri, 30/12/11, Tony Cocks <[email protected]> wrote: >From: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England >To: "theclown16" <[email protected]> >Cc: "Peter Lodge" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, 30, December, 2011, 9:55 AM > > >Hello theclown16, >  >I am extremely grateful for all your research into Cornelius RANDOLPH.   Certainly there is a huge amount of information that can be expanded into a Biography........which is the essential element of my PhD work on the juvenile offenders entering Parkhurst Prison between 1838-1864.   >  >However, my fear is that it will all come to nought unless we can establish his parentage.    And that, of course, seems to be the fateful "brickwall" that so many genealogists meet in trying to substantiate a vital link.   Hopefully someone can provide the magic demolition!! >  >Thank you once again. >  >Tony Cocks >  >From: theclown16 <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Cc: Peter Lodge <[email protected]>; [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011, 17:23 >Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England >Note: ages vary on each census but assume same family. Immigration and Naturalization years shown. I think they may have been married in England.;1920 United States Federal Census about Cornelius RandolphName:     Cornelius RandolphAge:     99Birth Year:     abt 1821Birthplace:     EnglandHome in 1920:     Wayland, Middlesex, MassachusettsRace:     WhiteGender:     MaleImmigration Year:     1869Relation to Head of House:     Self (Head)[Head]Marital Status:     MarriedSpouse's Name:     Mary Anne RandolphFather's Birthplace:     EnglandMother's Birthplace:     EnglandHome Owned:     OwnAble to Read:     YesAble to Write:     YesNeighbors:     Household Members:     Name     AgeCornelius Randolph     99Mary Anne Randolph     82Lillian Dorothy Rosback     14theclown16

Just found this....have you had any contact with this researcher? http://records.ancestry.com/Cornelius_Randolph_records.ashx?pid=87462522     --- On Thu, 29/12/11, Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England To: "Tony Cocks" <[email protected]> Cc: "GenMassachusetts Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 29, December, 2011, 4:12 PM On familysearch.org it has a birth record for a Cornelius Randolph born 11 August 1833, Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England , parents Henry Randolph and Amelia [maiden name not given]. The actual image is not available. As you mention a Cornelius Randolph aged 7 is listed 1841 census Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England  with parents Henry and Amelia, plus siblings. I don't find them after that.   If the DOB in the above birth record can be relied upon then it seems likely your Cornelius Randolph is this child as the 1900 US census for Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts shows Cornelius' DOB as August 1833....... This 1900 census shows Mary's DOB as Feb 1843. Various birth records for the children show Mary's maiden name to be Scully/Scolly/Scally etc.   According to Index to New England Naturalization Petitions, 1791-1906  Cornelius Randolph was born England August 1842, Naturalized 1 Nov 1875, Residence: Wayland MA.   I can't find his death record which I hoped would provide his parents.   Janice          --- On Thu, 29/12/11, Tony Cocks <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 29, December, 2011, 5:41 AM Hello,   I wonder if someone has any information relating to the following family.   A Cornelius RANDOLPH, born c1834 in Wiltshire, England, may have migrated to Massachusetts in 1859 with his wife Mary.  They had 7 children, all born in Wayland, Eliza 1862, Albert, 1864, Florence 1866, Mabel 1869, William 1872, Walter 1874 and Harry 1880.   My main interest lies in the names of his parents, who may have been Henry and Amelia according to the 1841 England Census and lived in the Civil Parish of Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire.   If I can establish that these are correct it may help in my PhD research on the treatment of juvenile offenders in Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight 1838-1864.     Happy New Year and regards   Tony Cocks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On familysearch.org it has a birth record for a Cornelius Randolph born 11 August 1833, Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England , parents Henry Randolph and Amelia [maiden name not given]. The actual image is not available. As you mention a Cornelius Randolph aged 7 is listed 1841 census Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England  with parents Henry and Amelia, plus siblings. I don't find them after that.   If the DOB in the above birth record can be relied upon then it seems likely your Cornelius Randolph is this child as the 1900 US census for Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts shows Cornelius' DOB as August 1833....... This 1900 census shows Mary's DOB as Feb 1843. Various birth records for the children show Mary's maiden name to be Scully/Scolly/Scally etc.   According to Index to New England Naturalization Petitions, 1791-1906  Cornelius Randolph was born England August 1842, Naturalized 1 Nov 1875, Residence: Wayland MA.   I can't find his death record which I hoped would provide his parents.   Janice          --- On Thu, 29/12/11, Tony Cocks <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 29, December, 2011, 5:41 AM Hello,   I wonder if someone has any information relating to the following family.   A Cornelius RANDOLPH, born c1834 in Wiltshire, England, may have migrated to Massachusetts in 1859 with his wife Mary.  They had 7 children, all born in Wayland, Eliza 1862, Albert, 1864, Florence 1866, Mabel 1869, William 1872, Walter 1874 and Harry 1880.   My main interest lies in the names of his parents, who may have been Henry and Amelia according to the 1841 England Census and lived in the Civil Parish of Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire.   If I can establish that these are correct it may help in my PhD research on the treatment of juvenile offenders in Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight 1838-1864.     Happy New Year and regards   Tony Cocks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello theclown16,   I am extremely grateful for all your research into Cornelius RANDOLPH.   Certainly there is a huge amount of information that can be expanded into a Biography........which is the essential element of my PhD work on the juvenile offenders entering Parkhurst Prison between 1838-1864.     However, my fear is that it will all come to nought unless we can establish his parentage.    And that, of course, seems to be the fateful "brickwall" that so many genealogists meet in trying to substantiate a vital link.   Hopefully someone can provide the magic demolition!!   Thank you once again.   Tony Cocks   From: theclown16 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Peter Lodge <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011, 17:23 Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England Note: ages vary on each census but assume same family. Immigration and Naturalization years shown. I think they may have been married in England.; 1920 United States Federal Census about Cornelius Randolph Name:     Cornelius Randolph Age:     99 Birth Year:     abt 1821 Birthplace:     England Home in 1920:     Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts Race:     White Gender:     Male Immigration Year:     1869 Relation to Head of House:     Self (Head) [Head] Marital Status:     Married Spouse's Name:     Mary Anne Randolph Father's Birthplace:     England Mother's Birthplace:     England Home Owned:     Own Able to Read:     Yes Able to Write:     Yes Neighbors:     Household Members:     Name     Age Cornelius Randolph     99 Mary Anne Randolph     82 Lillian Dorothy Rosback     14 theclown16

Note: ages vary on each census but assume same family. Immigration and Naturalization years shown. I think they may have been married in England.; 1920 United States Federal Census about Cornelius Randolph Name: Cornelius Randolph Age: 99 Birth Year: abt 1821 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1869 Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) [Head] Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary Anne Randolph Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Home Owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Cornelius Randolph 99 Mary Anne Randolph 82 Lillian Dorothy Rosback 14 theclown16

Henry and Amelia in 1851 without Cornelius who may have been in Jail. 1851 England Census about Henry Randolph Name: Henry Randolph Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Amelia Randolph Gender: M (Male) Where born: West Ashton, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: West Ashton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Bradley ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Piece: 1842 Folio: 97 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Henry Randolph 60 Amelia Randolph 45 Jane Randolph 12 James Randolph 10 William Randolph 7 theclown16

Seems to be the same jailbird who shows up in Wiltshire Courts as early as age 12 for larceny. 1841 England Census about Cornelius Randolph Name: Cornelius Randolph Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Steeple Ashton Hundred: Whorwelsdown County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Bradley Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1188 Book: 7 Folio: 8 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Henry Randolph 48 Amelia Randolph 30 Louisa Randolph 12 Cornelius Randolph 7 Ann Randolph 5 Jane Randolph 3 James Randolph 3 Mo theclown16

Year of Immigration 1859. 1900 United States Federal Census about Corneilus Randolph Name: Corneilus Randolph [Cooper Randolph] Age: 65 Birth Date: Aug 1834 Birthplace: England Home in 1900: Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1859 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary A Randolph Marriage Year: 1861 Years Married: 39 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Corneilus Randolph 65 Mary A Randolph 57 William E Randolph 28 Walter E Randolph 25 Harry Randolph 17 Elijah Holway 80 A* Painter 78 theclown16

Janice: On ancestry.com we find several records for Cornelius in England as early as 1847 being indicted for larcensy and a later sentence of 4 years in prison. Can look these up and copy for you. Doesn't answer the question of parents. Also heis listed in Civil war lists in 1863 from Wayland, MA Names Start Date Location Record Type Age Sect House Hold Gender Race Occupation Place of Birth Place of Town Marital Status Poll Status Cornelius Randolph 1865 Wayland, Massachusetts, United States Census Record 26 n/a 198/234 m w Laborer Eng Wayland m p About Massachusetts State Census Transcriptions for 1855 and 1865 (Essex, Middlesex, and Plymouth Co.) Massachusetts took state censuses in 1855, 1865, 1875, 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915, 1925, 1935, and 1945. General summaries have been published for most of these censuses, but the actual town-by-town census schedules exist for only 1855 and 1865. The original schedules for the other years appear to have been lost. This database contains Essex, Middlesex, and Plymouth counties only. The Berkshire Genealogist has published some of the towns in Berkshire county. Microfilms of the 1855 and 1865 Massachusetts state censuses are available at NEHGS, the Massachusetts State Archives, and through the Family History Libraries. There are three important features that make these state censuses different from the Federal censuses. First in 1865 is a column that asks whether the person is married, single, or widowed. This can help determine relationships in a household. Secondly, also in 1865, it asks whether a person is a ratable poll ('p'), ratable poll and legal voter ('p1'), or ratable poll and naturalized voter ('pn'). This can help to determine when someone became a citizen. The third feature is that 22 towns in 1855 and 96 towns in 1865 give specific town of birth rather than just state and some give town or county of birth for those of foreign birth. Some of these towns are among the ones transcribed here and a complete list can be found in Ann Lainhart's book State Census Records (HA215 / L25 / 1992), available in the NEHGS Research library. Explanations of record fields: Household: Dwelling number in order of visitation / Families numbered in order of visitation. Color: 'w' - White; 'b' - Black; 'm' - Mulatto; or 'I' - Indian. Asterisk following first name: Person over twenty years of age who cannot read or write. Marital status: 's' - single; 'm' - married; 'w' - widowed. (Note - marital status was recorded in 1865 only.) Citation Information Massachusetts State Censuses, 1855 and 1865. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org<="" div=""> theclown16

Thank you for the link, Janice.   Unfortunately I do not have access to that particular Index in England, although I have a suspicion that the researcher is a Tom Randolph I found on another family website.......if so, I did email him but the address was obsolete.   The parents shown by the link (John and Millie) differ from those quoted on the 1841 England Census and IGI (Henry and Amelia) and to make it a little more ackward the former are not quoted on the Census.   It is a pity about the absence of death records.   You mention that according to New England Naturalization Petitions Cornelius RANDOLPH was born August 1842.   This confuses the issue somewhat, although are early American records notoriously inaccurate on ages as are English and Australian of the same vintage!?   Incidentally, I notice your address is in NZ which is another area of research for me with the 123 Parkhurst Boys sent to Auckland in 1842 and 1843 on the "St. George" and "Mandarin".   For the moment   Tony     From: Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> To: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> Cc: GenMassachusetts Rootsweb <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2011, 3:17 Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England Just found this....have you had any contact with this researcher? http://records.ancestry.com/Cornelius_Randolph_records.ashx?pid=87462522 --- On Thu, 29/12/11, Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> wrote: >From: Peter & Janice Lodge <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England >To: "Tony Cocks" <[email protected]> >Cc: "GenMassachusetts Rootsweb" <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, 29, December, 2011, 4:12 PM > > >On familysearch.org it has a birth record for a Cornelius Randolph born 11 August 1833, Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England , parents Henry Randolph and Amelia [maiden name not given]. The actual image is not available. As you mention a Cornelius Randolph aged 7 is listed 1841 census Steeple-Ashton, Wiltshire, England  with parents Henry and Amelia, plus siblings. I don't find them after that. > >If the DOB in the above birth record can be relied upon then it seems likely your Cornelius Randolph is this child as the 1900 US census for Wayland, Middlesex, Massachusetts shows Cornelius' DOB as August 1833....... This 1900 census shows Mary's DOB as Feb 1843. Various birth records for the children show Mary's maiden name to be Scully/Scolly/Scally etc. >  >According to Index to New England Naturalization Petitions, 1791-1906  Cornelius Randolph was born England August 1842, Naturalized 1 Nov 1875, Residence: Wayland MA. >  >I can't find his death record which I hoped would provide his parents. >  >Janice >  >  >  >   --- On Thu, 29/12/11, Tony Cocks <[email protected]> wrote: > >>From: Tony Cocks <[email protected]> >>Subject: [GENMASSACHUSETTS] Cornelius RANDOLPH, Born c1834, Wiltshire, England >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, 29, December, 2011, 5:41 AM >> >> >>Hello,   I wonder if someone has any information relating to the following family.   A Cornelius RANDOLPH, born c1834 in Wiltshire, England, may have migrated to Massachusetts in 1859 with his wife Mary.  They had 7 children, all born in Wayland, Eliza 1862, Albert, 1864, Florence 1866, Mabel 1869, William 1872, Walter 1874 and Harry 1880.   My main interest lies in the names of his parents, who may have been Henry and Amelia according to the 1841 England Census and lived in the Civil Parish of Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire.   If I can establish that these are correct it may help in my PhD research on the treatment of juvenile offenders in Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight 1838-1864.     Happy New Year and regards   Tony Cocks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello,   I wonder if someone has any information relating to the following family.   A Cornelius RANDOLPH, born c1834 in Wiltshire, England, may have migrated to Massachusetts in 1859 with his wife Mary.  They had 7 children, all born in Wayland, Eliza 1862, Albert, 1864, Florence 1866, Mabel 1869, William 1872, Walter 1874 and Harry 1880.   My main interest lies in the names of his parents, who may have been Henry and Amelia according to the 1841 England Census and lived in the Civil Parish of Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire.   If I can establish that these are correct it may help in my PhD research on the treatment of juvenile offenders in Parkhurst Prison on the Isle of Wight 1838-1864.     Happy New Year and regards   Tony Cocks

The 1940 census will be released in April. There are some organizations working to index the pages to make them more accessible to us. Won't you consider volunteering? http://the1940census.com/ Regards, Ray Sears

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