Years are not to 1851 Ed, Stradbally at least is 1856 though the majority are early 1850's, from what I can see of what I have re Griffiths, including what I don't have on line as of yet. Ian, 1858 to 1861 could not be said to be the norm/average. Abbeyleix as you can see is 1850. I have an index to the names of lessors and lessees on line, the URL Abbeyleix 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/abbeyleix.htm Listed below, some URL's for Indices to the names found in any of these parishes in the Griffiths. For the msot part, each of these parishes ahs townlands in Co. Kilkenny and you'll find a name list for the Kilkenny sections also. From some of these links, you'll find links to pages with indices for people listed in the Tithe Applotment books - all of those resources being easily available to any of you who have access to a Family History centre - what you may also find, is lists of names of people buried in either or both Roman Catholic and Protestant graveyards in the parish (not available anywhere else - and maybe even some parish record extracts Jane Abbeyleix 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/abbeyleix.htm Aharney 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/aharney.htm Attanagh 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/aharney.htm Ballyadams 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/ballyadams.htm Bordwell 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/bordwell.htm Erke 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/erke.htm Stradbally 1856 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/stradbally.htm X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:38:10 GMT >From: "Edward O'Day" <edoday@earthlink.net> To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <m31Ne.9232$Je.6136@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Griffiths Valuation for Co. Leix- what years? Ian, Dates of the published Griffith's Volumes for Queen's County are 1850-1851. The Revision Books (annual updates) begin in 1855. The annual updates, now held in the Valuation Office in Dublin, were never published, but they have been microfilmed and can be borrowed for use at a Family History Library (LDS) in your area. These books show the year when a property changed hands, either for Lessor [landlord] or Occupier [head of household], and they could help solve your problem if the published books do not.. Ed O'Day ""Ian Loiterton"" <idloit@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message news:000a01c57a17$c72f27c0$b3e6a6cb@ownerszy0clcwb... >I am aware that Griffiths Valuation was conducted between 1848 and 1864. >One reference suggested that it was conducted for Co. Leix between 1851 and >1852 while another said between 1858 and 1860. Can anyone verify which of >these is correct as it makes a significant difference to identifying two >people included in it for the town of Abbeyleix. > > Thank you > > Ian > > Ian Loiterton > Canberra, A.C.T., AUSTRALIA > Researching: BARNETT, DOUGLAS, HAND, KILDEA, LOITERTON, PALMER, RAMSEY, > WEBBER, YOULTEN

Thanks to Dr. Jane for links to excellent on-line sources for county Leix and for pointing out that parish boundaries may cross county lines. Utilizing Griffith's can be a challenge for even the most experienced researcher. The boundaries of the primary units by which the volumes are organized (Baronies and Poor Law Unions) sometimes cut across parish lines or through the middle of a town. So it is often necessary to consult multiple volumes of Griffith's to search a particular parish. My statement that Griffith's Valuations for Queens County were published between 1850 and 1851 was based on personal research in the microfiche version of that work, and on James R. Reilly's "Richard Griffith and His valuations of Ireland" (Baltimore:Clearfield, 2000), the most comprehensive work on the subject. Reilly's study includes an appendix with precise publication dates for each volume of Griffith's for all Irish counties, the Irish repositories where each may be found, and microfilm numbers for copies held by the Family History Library. Reilly cites 11 published volumes for Queens County and an additional volume containing parts of both Queens and Kildare. The earliest publication appeared on 12 August 1850, the last two on 03 February 1851. The anomaly for Stradbally cited by Dr. Jane (1856) may be the date of the revised edition for the Poor Law Union of Athy published after appeals by rate-payers there. Those just beginning work in Griffith's will find good guidance from Dr.Lyons' website http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/griffithsval.htm or from the chapter on Taxation Records in "Discovering Your Irish Ancestors" by Dwight Radford and Kyle Betit (Cincinnati: Betterway Books, 2001). For Ian or others trying to interpret data found in Griffith's, Reilly is indispensable. If anyone has questions about publication dates for other counties, I would be happy to do look-ups in Reilly's Appendix. Ed O'Day http://www.odeaclan.org/griffith.htm ""Dr. Jane Lyons"" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> wrote in message news:01a101c5a4f3$54b910f0$2101a8c0@nytjxzpkk1v6ap... > Years are not to 1851 Ed, Stradbally at least is 1856 though the majority > are early 1850's, from what I can see of what I have re Griffiths, > including what I don't have on line as of yet. Ian, 1858 to 1861 could > not be said to be the norm/average. Abbeyleix as you can see is 1850. I > have an index to the names of lessors and lessees on line, the URL > Abbeyleix 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/abbeyleix.htm > > Listed below, some URL's for Indices to the names found in any of these > parishes in the Griffiths. For the msot part, each of these parishes ahs > townlands in Co. Kilkenny and you'll find a name list for the Kilkenny > sections also. From some of these links, you'll find links to pages with > indices for people listed in the Tithe Applotment books - all of those > resources being easily available to any of you who have access to a Family > History centre - what you may also find, is lists of names of people > buried in either or both Roman Catholic and Protestant graveyards in the > parish (not available anywhere else - and maybe even some parish record > extracts > > Jane > > > Abbeyleix 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/abbeyleix.htm > Aharney 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/aharney.htm > Attanagh 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/aharney.htm > Ballyadams 1850 : > http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/ballyadams.htm > Bordwell 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/bordwell.htm > Erke 1850 : http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/erke.htm > Stradbally 1856 : > http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/laois/stradbally.htm > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:38:10 GMT >>From: "Edward O'Day" <edoday@earthlink.net> > To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <m31Ne.9232$Je.6136@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Griffiths Valuation for Co. Leix- what years? > > Ian, > > Dates of the published Griffith's Volumes for Queen's County are > 1850-1851. > The Revision Books (annual updates) begin in 1855. > > The annual updates, now held in the Valuation Office in Dublin, were never > published, but they have been microfilmed and can be borrowed for use at a > Family History Library (LDS) in your area. These books show the year when > a > property changed hands, either for Lessor [landlord] or Occupier [head of > household], and they could help solve your problem if the published books > do > not.. > > Ed O'Day > > > ""Ian Loiterton"" <idloit@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message > news:000a01c57a17$c72f27c0$b3e6a6cb@ownerszy0clcwb... >>I am aware that Griffiths Valuation was conducted between 1848 and 1864. >>One reference suggested that it was conducted for Co. Leix between 1851 >>and >>1852 while another said between 1858 and 1860. Can anyone verify which of >>these is correct as it makes a significant difference to identifying two >>people included in it for the town of Abbeyleix. >> >> Thank you >> >> Ian >> >> Ian Loiterton >> Canberra, A.C.T., AUSTRALIA >> Researching: BARNETT, DOUGLAS, HAND, KILDEA, LOITERTON, PALMER, RAMSEY, >> WEBBER, YOULTEN >