The Chief <[email protected]> wrote: : On Aug 29, 9:00?pm, "Stacy" <[email protected]> wrote: :> If someone came to US via boat from Liverpool that orginated in Queenstown, :> Ireland....do they typically stay on ?boat or depart in Liverpool? :> :> Just wondering if I need to look harder for someone in Liverpool that was on :> a ship from Queenstown? :> :> Thanks, :> Stacy : Methinks you have this backwards: ships originated in Liverpool and : then called into Cove on their way to America. Not necessarily. Up until about 1860 when steam ships became more common on the trans-Atlantic routes, large sailing vessels did not call in at Queenstown due to the lack of manuverability in the Cove of Cork. It was common practice to take a small overnight steamer to Liverpool and seek passage on the next outbound immigrant vessel. Many familys frittered away their savings while waiting in dockside accomodations and ended up settling in Liverpool. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find such passengers as there were no records kept of passengers going from Queenstown to Liverpool. There were also much smaller vessels leaving from ports such as Youghal and Limerick, not to mention the timber vessels offloading along the coast of West Cork who would take passengers on the way back to Canadian ports. The fares were rock bottom and you had to bring your own food, but for the owners of the vessels it was cheaper to provide almost free berthing space than to pay to have stone ballast taken on board. -dja

On Aug 30, 11:15 am, Dennis Ahern <[email protected]> wrote: > The Chief <[email protected]> wrote: > > : On Aug 29, 9:00?pm, "Stacy" <[email protected]> wrote: > :> If someone came to US via boat from Liverpool that orginated in Queenstown, > :> Ireland....do they typically stay on ?boat or depart in Liverpool? > :> > :> Just wondering if I need to look harder for someone in Liverpool that was on > :> a ship from Queenstown? > :> > :> Thanks, > :> Stacy > > : Methinks you have this backwards: ships originated in Liverpool and > : then called into Cove on their way to America. > > Not necessarily. Up until about 1860 when steam ships became more common > on the trans-Atlantic routes, large sailing vessels did not call in at > Queenstown due to the lack of manuverability in the Cove of Cork. It was > common practice to take a small overnight steamer to Liverpool and seek > passage on the next outbound immigrant vessel. Many familys frittered away > their savings while waiting in dockside accomodations and ended up > settling in Liverpool. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find such > passengers as there were no records kept of passengers going from > Queenstown to Liverpool. > > There were also much smaller vessels leaving from ports such as Youghal > and Limerick, not to mention the timber vessels offloading along the coast > of West Cork who would take passengers on the way back to Canadian ports. > The fares were rock bottom and you had to bring your own food, but for the > owners of the vessels it was cheaper to provide almost free berthing > space than to pay to have stone ballast taken on board. > > -dja Dennis, If you are simply saying that people commonly took ship from Ireland to England, particularly Liverpool, and thence on to America, then of course you are correct. However, this is not what the original query asked about, which was taking a single ship from Cove to Liverpool, and thence on to America on the same ship: "someone came to US via boat ..... that orginated in Queenstown...?" Regards, The Chief