Well, Chief, so far my search for details on James O'Regan has not been overly productive, but I'm pretty sure what I have found to date is reliable. I know the R.I.C. did not police Dublin since they had the DMP. But he was in the Dublin area and was not living with his wife in Labasheeda, Co. Clare. Did he go on to serve in the Gardai? I don't know, but it seems he was a longtime R.I.C. member, a sergeant when it was disbanded, and quite well educated. So he could have gone back to the Gardai. As for your contention that the census information for 1911 shows that he was a "merchant and farmer," his 1909 marriage certificate also does not state that he was in the R.I.C. I've looked at a lot of 1901 and 1911 census forms and rarely does it show someone being in the R.I.C. That might have been something you did not want to broadcast, especially in Clare, Kerry, or Tipperary. But thanks for your thoughts. "The Chief" <The_Chieftain@att.net> wrote in message news:62b24175-a8f9-47c8-a85f-28c0bb08dcea@b9g2000pri.googlegroups.com... On Mar 13, 9:27 pm, "Question Quigley" <dontsen...@nomail.com> wrote: > Perhaps someone can help me. > > My grandfather, who I never met, James Regan (or O'Regan) was in the > R.I.C. > However, I'm having a difficult time finding anything about him. I think > his > family was originally from Waterford. > > He and his wife, the former Nora Ryan, lived in Labasheeda, County Clare. > They were married in 1909 in Labasheeda, so he probably joined the R.I.C. > sometime around 1900. I have not been able to find where he was stationed, > but he did receive an R.I.C. medal for being on duty in Dublin during > Edward > VII's visit to Dublin in 1903. > > From the 1911 census, I believe he was living with his sister, Delia > (Regan) > Quinn in the Mount Joy area of Dublin. > > In Tim Pat Coogan's book on the IRA, I found a reference to a Sergeant > O'Regan being shot in the leg on 23 November 1930 "while on protection > duty > at the residence of the Ceann Comhairle (chairman of the Dail), Rathgar, > Co. > Dublin." > > Can anyone tell me more about this incident and if the newspapers made > mention of Sergeant O'Regan's first name and home county? > > If he was on duty, I suppose it would have been with the Garda. I have > never been told that he was a member of the Garda, but it is possible that > he was. > > Thanks, > > Dennis O'Regan > USA > doregan at verizon dot net Dennis, If I may say so, this is an example of a dreadful approach to genealogy, viz: "my name is Murphy, there was once a famous Murphy, are we related?" O'Regan is a common enough name, there will have been many in the police. More to the point, the 1911 census entry to which you refer does not seem to support your story, as it specifically says that the James O"Regan listed there was a "merchant and farmer", **not** a policeman. Indeed, the RIC were not responsible for policing Dublin (that was the job of the DMP), so few RIC men would have lived in Dublin. Further, though some members of the RIC went on to serve in the Garda Siochana, that was the exception rather than the rule, as the RIC were of course the enemy in the war of independence. Regards, The Chief

On Mar 15, 7:22 pm, "Question Quigley" <dontsen...@nomail.com> wrote: > Well, Chief, so far my search for details on James O'Regan has not been > overly productive, but I'm pretty sure what I have found to date is > reliable. > > I know the R.I.C. did not police Dublin since they had the DMP. But he was > in the Dublin area and was not living with his wife in Labasheeda, Co. > Clare.  Did he go on to serve in the Gardai? I don't know, but it seems he > was a longtime R.I.C. member, a sergeant when it was disbanded, and quite > well educated. So he could have gone back to the Gardai. > > As for your contention that the census information for 1911 shows that he > was a "merchant and farmer," his 1909 marriage certificate also does not > state that he was in the R.I.C.  I've looked at a lot of 1901 and 1911 > census forms and rarely does it show someone being in the R.I.C.  That might > have been something you did not want to broadcast, especially in Clare, > Kerry, or Tipperary. > > But thanks for your thoughts. > You're welcome. The more you post the more you convince me that this is a harebrained quest; pursuing an incident from 1930 simply because the Garda involved had the same surname? Crazy! As for 1901 and 1911 census forms rarely showing that men were members of the RIC, that is simply untrue. Perhaps you are unaware that RIC members were recorded by initials only, and hence it is difficult to find them? Regards, The Chief