"Roger" <R@NO-SPAMmacwilliam.force9.co.uk> wrote in message news:hjv1t6$9lj$1@adenine.netfront.net... > > "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> wrote in message > news:mailman.180.1264776869.1999.genire@rootsweb.com... >> > What Hi Roger looks like the index extract for John's will comes up with a search at > www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars/wills_search.htm > Date of death given as 30 Nov 1912. So it does ! Helps to know where to look . Thank you. Looks like the cost of a copy would be 22 euros This agrees with a death entry at > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html for > John Craig > registered Oct-Dec 1912 Londonderry. The same site has > birth entries for > Vivian Henry Craig 1877 (?) Could be he was a couple of years older . I have copy of his WW1 service dossier and his marriage cert , and both indicate b 1879 and Margaret Theo Denise Craig Oct-Dec 1896 > Coleraine, presumably a child of one of the surviving > Craig sons. Ok how do I find out if there were any more sons? The 1901 Derry census doesn't look as though it covers the part of Derry where this family lived ? > I assume you will have seen Vivian Henry's WW1 service > record at > www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx . Sure have ! > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html is a very bare bones index Are there any Derry newspaper archives on line ? I know Vivian Henry CRAIG was living in Melbourne Australia by 1914 and living with his wife to be . They didnt marry until 1916 She had a son in 1907. no fathers name on his birth cert.......... This boy later took the surname of CRAIG . Vivian could have been his father.................. I cant find him in the 1911 Irish Census or Findmypast migration data base Its a challenge ! Many thanks bye -- MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia