Hi everyone.   I am new to the list and looking for ideas on how to get around not knowing the place name in Ireland to search for my family. The information I know:     - the name of the husband and est. birth in 1832.     - the maiden name of his wife, her fathers name and her est birth in 1832.     - the name of their son who was born in Ireland around 1854.     - I am estimating they  arrived in the U.S. around 1854-1855 because a child was born in New Jersey         28 Aug 1856 I've collected a lot of information on this family after their arrival in the U.S., but "Ireland" is always listed as place information.  Luckily, I think I have enough information to identify them in Ireland if I can ever locate them, but where do I start?  HELP!!!! -  Thanks - Mary

I suggest the Y-Irl list at Yahoogroups; this list isn't very active, and frankly, the Irish groups at Rootsweb aren't generally all that helpful. You may be able to locate the child's birth here: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails;t=searchable%20for%20births%20&%20marriages You have to create a shortcut, and click on it over again every time you search, or you'll get results for the entire planet. For some years you may be able to get films of the birth record from LDS; for most years you can get only a film of the index, giving you info you already have. If you go here you can order a copy of the birth record. http://www.groireland.ie/ Tehre's a fax form you can use for fastest results, and I got the record I requested pretty quickly, in two or three weeks or something. I suggest you also look for the parents' marriage, and get that record. Either the child's birth record or the parents' marriage record may provide more info, such as the names of parents, the occupation of the groom. As well as where they married. What was their name, and what religious denomination were they? And do you know what his occupation was? What resources did they bring with them, and were they working or middle class, even middle class and not very successful? Always get all the records on both husband and wife. All immigration records, all records assocaited with their deaths, and any documentation that was filled out for any reason, such as draft registration, maybe if they went back to Ireland for any reason and had to fill out forms for that. You never know what's going to drop clues. And in many locations, the death certificates would name their parents. At Ancestry.com you can search for the ship's record; those records expand constantly. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <bullydog2@verizon.net> To: <GENIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:47 PM Subject: Irish History Brickwalls Hi everyone. I am new to the list and looking for ideas on how to get around not knowing the place name in Ireland to search for my family. The information I know: - the name of the husband and est. birth in 1832. - the maiden name of his wife, her fathers name and her est birth in 1832. - the name of their son who was born in Ireland around 1854. - I am estimating they arrived in the U.S. around 1854-1855 because a child was born in New Jersey 28 Aug 1856 I've collected a lot of information on this family after their arrival in the U.S., but "Ireland" is always listed as place information. Luckily, I think I have enough information to identify them in Ireland if I can ever locate them, but where do I start? HELP!!!! - Thanks - Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, We all have brickwalls that need to be knocked down. That said, you will find the information in the strangest places. My great grandfather I was told was from Ireland, but not where. Then, I obtained the death certificate for my great grandmother from Chicago. It said she was from County Louth. I then received a copy of her obituary, which indicated she was from Dundalk. I sent off for their marriage certificate, which gave me their parents' names. All the information is out there, you just have to keep looking. Let the list know who you relatives are, maybe we can help. Bill

My brickwall is my 2nd great grandfather Michael Brady last name might of been spelt Brody/Brodie  b.about 1835 Ireland possible Cork d. about November 27,1899 Ottawa,IL. Found him  on New York Port Arrival Records 1846-1851 Embarkation Liverpool.arrived in New York May 11,1846. I couldnot find any other realtives,no parents no silblings. He married Bridget Burns b.1834 Ireland s.1904 Ottawa,IL she immigradted in 1839. --- On Tue, 1/19/10, wm.karr@comcast.net <wm.karr@comcast.net> wrote: From: wm.karr@comcast.net <wm.karr@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Irish History Brickwalls To: genire@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 8:45 PM Mary, We all have brickwalls that need to be knocked down. That said, you will find the information in the strangest places. My great grandfather I was told was from Ireland, but not where. Then, I obtained the death certificate for my great grandmother from Chicago. It said she was from County Louth. I then received a copy of her obituary, which indicated she was from Dundalk. I sent off for their marriage certificate, which gave me their parents' names. All the information is out there, you just have to keep looking. Let the list know who you relatives are, maybe we can help. Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, Spend a lot of time on the familysearch.org site, especially the pilot project records for Ireland. On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Mary wrote: > Hi everyone. I am new to the list and looking for ideas on how to > get around not knowing the place name in Ireland to search for my > family. > > The information I know: > - the name of the husband and est. birth in 1832. > - the maiden name of his wife, her fathers name and her est > birth in 1832. > - the name of their son who was born in Ireland around 1854. > - I am estimating they arrived in the U.S. around 1854-1855 > because a child was born in New Jersey > 28 Aug 1856 > > I've collected a lot of information on this family after their > arrival in the U.S., but "Ireland" is always listed as place > information. > > Luckily, I think I have enough information to identify them in > Ireland if I can ever locate them, but where do I start? > > HELP!!!! - Thanks - Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary How I sympathise with you! I had the same problem myself and almost gave up after several years of going nowhere. However, I don't suggest you do that as there is always hope! After I'd exhausted my efforts with my "direct" maternal Irish line of ancestry, I began work on the siblings in the family. Not too long afterwards, by looking at census information, I found that one of these siblings had joined the Royal Navy in 1861. Very fortunately for me, he had put his place of birth as Greystones, Wicklow, which gave me a place to work on. To-date, I've not got much further as yet again, I can't seem to find any mention of him or his family in Greystones and I too am not quite sure where to look next. More and more information is coming online, which is great, and I know only too well how frustrating it can be - but don't give up - the information you need is out there and if you chip away at it, you will find it. Wish I could help further. All the best and good luck Theresa -----Original Message----- From: genire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:genire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: 20 January 2010 00:47 To: GENIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Irish History Brickwalls Hi everyone. I am new to the list and looking for ideas on how to get around not knowing the place name in Ireland to search for my family. The information I know: - the name of the husband and est. birth in 1832. - the maiden name of his wife, her fathers name and her est birth in 1832. - the name of their son who was born in Ireland around 1854. - I am estimating they arrived in the U.S. around 1854-1855 because a child was born in New Jersey 28 Aug 1856 I've collected a lot of information on this family after their arrival in the U.S., but "Ireland" is always listed as place information. Luckily, I think I have enough information to identify them in Ireland if I can ever locate them, but where do I start? HELP!!!! - Thanks - Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://www.glass-ts.com/PDFs/GTS_Terms_Conditions.pdf Click below if you wish to pay either company: http://www.britglass.org.uk/payment.php http://www.glass-ts.com/payment/payment.php P please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. http://www.britglass.org.uk/BritishGlass/British_Glass_Environmental_Policy_Statement_-_Mar_08.pdf http://www.glass-ts.com/PDFs/GTS_Environmental_Policy_Statement_-_Mar_08.pdf (Click to view policies) This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.