Michael Connors (var include Conner(s), born circa 1840 m. Mary DANAHY (Var include Donnahee, etc.) July 19, 1861. Intention filed in Hopkinton MA where Connors lived, wedding in Framingham where bride Danahy lived. Mary Danahy is my gr grandfather’s sister. So her parents are Johannah (aka Bridget) and Michael and groom’s parents are Jeremiah and Abbey Shea. In the state census of 1865, the couple resides in Hopkinton with the Matriarch, here recorded as Bridget Donnahee, born in 1811, so aged 54.. in the 1870 census this family and their 3 kids are sharing a house with Ellen’s sister Mary Conners and that couple's 3 kids. In the 1880 census this couple lives in Hopkinton and has three children at home; John Connors, age 18 (so born 1862), Michael aged 11 (b. 1869) and Bridget aged 10 (b. 70). In their home lived Johanna Donahue DANAHY, the matriarch. Mary died 17 Nov. 1899 In Hopkinton MA. By then, the family surname was spelled O’CONNOR. Michael died 5 July 1915 in Hopkinton MA. Michael DANAHY http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/n/Michael-C-Danahy/index.html RESEARCHING IN MA (Hopkinton), IRE, ENG ALDRICH http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aldrichnaa/ (one m SMITH, earlier ones m CASAVANT, COMEE, http://www.familyorigins.com/users/e/v/a/Jeanne-C-Evans LOVELL, PRAY, PRENTICE, RAWSON, SEALD, THAYER); http://members.xoom.com/jaldrich/Lines/Michael.htm Aldrich Family biographies, go to http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssociation/AldrichBios or go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aldrich/ CASAVANT (who m MORAN); CURRAN (who m DANAHY) DANAHY (b. in Hopkinton and who m LENAN, siblings m. TOLAN, JOHNSON, O'CONNOR) LENAN (who m O"BRIEN); SMITH (who m CASEY); PRENTICE (who m ALDRICH) http://www.prenticenet.com/roots/prentice/robert/#R4 RAWSON (one m ALLEN, later one TORREY) http://www.rawsonfamilyassoc.org/ THAYER (Thomas m WHEELER, son Ferdinando m HAYWARD); http://members.aol.com/Sadie476/Thayer.html

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Yes Alison and I know I 'm lazy - Elaine from Hastings NZ Original Message ----- Hello, is "HBH" shorthand for the Hawkes Bay Herald?- ajk

mattse165 wrote: > Yes Alison and I know I 'm lazy Hardly! :-) - Elaine from Hastings NZ > Original Message ----- > Hello, is "HBH" shorthand for the Hawkes Bay Herald?- ajk > >

HBH 1896 14 April GORDON to CAMPBELL MARRIAGE. GORDON-CAMPBELL-On the 8th April, at St. Paul's Papanui, Christchurch. by the Rev. Canon HARPER, assisted by the Rev, H. T. PURCHAS. Charles Leith Travers, youngest son of Captain T. E. GORDON, late 14th Hussars and Inniskilling Dragoons, to Elizabeth Helen, second daughter of Michael Scott CAMPBELL, Esq,, of Delce, Papanui.

mattse165 wrote: > HBH 1896 14 April GORDON to CAMPBELL > > > MARRIAGE. > > > > GORDON-CAMPBELL-On the 8th April, at St. Paul's Papanui, Christchurch. by the Rev. Canon HARPER, assisted by the Rev, H. T. PURCHAS. Charles Leith Travers, youngest son of Captain T. E. GORDON, late 14th Hussars and Inniskilling Dragoons, to Elizabeth Helen, second daughter of Michael Scott CAMPBELL, Esq,, of Delce, Papanui. > > Hello, is "HBH" shorthand for the Hawkes Bay Herald? ajk

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:38:19 +0200, Renia <renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote: >bmacliam@aol.com wrote: >> Please, please don't include ALL of the original email when replying to the list. And do change the subject line when replying to the digest email. It's courtesy, folks. >> Brad Wilson >> Wilson, Corner, Devine from Armagh >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >Not everyone replies through the list. The list is gatewayed to a >newsgroup, soc.genealogy.ireland But the same advice applies to the newsgroup as well. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Renia wrote: >bmacliam@aol.com wrote: >> Please, please don't include ALL of the original email when replying to the list. And do change the subject line when replying to the digest email. It's courtesy, folks. >> >Not everyone replies through the list. The list is gatewayed to a >newsgroup, soc.genealogy.ireland Snipping is usually a good idea for newsgroups as well. And should a newsgroup reader somehow get a digest email - it has been known - snipping and changing to the appropriate subject line would probably be helpful to others.

In soc.genealogy.ireland Malvary in Ottawa <malvaryj@sympatico.ca> wrote: : snip..... Ann Connell and Judith Ahern, larceny - to be transported for : 7 years. ...snip.... William Ahern, receiving stolen goods, imprisoned : three months. : Were these 2 Aherns related? If yes, perhaps he was receiving the : things she had stolen, therefore there was complicity and he should have : gone with her - perhaps he did. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm#transport shows that a Judith Ahern, of Bandon, County Cork, was born in 1793 and was transported on the Woodman. It says she "sews, knits, and milks". There is no identifiable record of the said William being transported. As there was a need for women in Australia, it may be that they were transported for lesser offences. I have seen newspaper reports of women transported for stealing a bit of ribbon or a chicken. -dja

Names: Baxter, Dalzell, Eustice, M'Clean, May, Smith. Transcribed from the 2 December 1824 edition of The Enniskillen Chronicle & Erne Packet newspaper, by permission of The British Library: Shipwrecks. From the Belfast Mercantile Register. "By a letter received by our Collector, Sir Stephen May, it appears, that on the 15th or 16th inst. the brig Marquis Wellington, of Liverpool, Capt. Baxter, from this port, bound for New Orleans, was wrecked on the north of the Rusk bank, about one mile south of Cahore point, near Gorey, county Wexford, and about same distance from land. Quantities of casks, hampers, &c. were seen drifting to the north; part of the stern came ashore, by which the name was known. A trunk with the name of Mr. Andrew M'Clean, jun. was also washed ashore. "We find that the Marquis Wellington sailed from this port, with a valuable cargo of linens, cotton goods, &c. on the 7th inst. and of course was out 8 days when this disastrous event occurred. It is truly melancholy to find, that besides the crew of this vessel, consisting of 16 persons, there were on board 2 steerage and 13 cabin passengers, some of them belonging to respectable families in this town. As no letters from any of them have been received, the worst is to be feared. "The Betseys of Belfast, Smith, master, which sailed from this port for Glasgow, on Tuesday morning last, was on the same night totally wrecked on the Isle of Arran. It is feared all the crew and passengers are lost, supposed to the extent of 20 persons. Capt. Dalzell, of the Eclipse Steam Packet, sailed the same tide, states that towards the evening the gale, which had been encreasing all day, became quite a hurricane, and that he was for some hours under considerable apprehension (although so well acquainted) of being able to make the entrance of the Clyde, the light being invisible from the density of the spray, and darkness of the night. "In the gale of the 17th inst. the John Echlin, of and for this port, Eustice, master, from Gibraltar, ran on shore near Whitehaven, the cargo (wine and fruit) partly damaged, vessel scarcely expected to be got off." Notwithstanding what has been said above, as neither the boats nor the oars of the Marquis Wellington have yet appeared, it is anxiously hoped that the passengers and crew may have escaped to the Saltees or some other islands. A short time will put an end to the state of painful suspense in which the feeling mind must necessarily remain, while their fate remains unknown. =====================

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The Constitution or Cork Morning Post, 4 September 1822 -- CORK (POSTPONED) ASSIZES. -------- CONVICTIONS AT THE LATE ASSIZES. The following is a return of the convictions in the City and County at the late Assizes:-- CITY. John Hurley, for the attack on Mr. Barry's house at Inchegeela, to be hanged this day. James Corbett and Daniel Burke, highway robbery, to be hanged the 21st September. Timothy Canty, having forged notes in his possession--and John Murphy, like offence--to be transported for 14 years. John Barrow, the elder, and John Barrow, the younger, larceny ; Ann Connell and Judith Ahern, larceny ; Thomas Neill and Garrett M'Donnell, larceny ; David M'Carthy, larceny ; John Harrington, perjury ; Michael Donovan, larceny ; Patrick Carey, stealing lead ; Timothy Fowlue, uttering forged notes ; Thomas Sullivan, larceny ; and Margaret Burke and Wm. Barry, larceny--all to be transported for 7 years. Thomas Elliott and Joseph Barter, larceny, to be privately whipped. William Barter, receiving stolen goods, imprisoned three months. William Ahern, receiving stolen goods, imprisoned three months. Eleanor Sheehan, larceny, imprisoned three months. John Fitzpatrick, stealing wool, imprisoned two months. Ann Nash, larceny, imprisoned three months. Johanna Sullivan, larceny, imprisoned one month. John Brien, receiving stolen goods, imprisoned 6 months. Philip Shea, larceny, to be whipped in gaol. Michael Leahy, assault, imprisoned three months. Timothy Toomy, passing with unlicensed spirits, to be imprisoned one month, and pay a fine of 10 [pounds]. [to be continued] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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"Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> wrote in message news:hdmkh4$u9n$2@pcls6.std.com... > snip..... Ann Connell and Judith Ahern, larceny - to be transported for 7 years. ...snip.... William Ahern, receiving stolen goods, imprisoned three months. ....snip balance of names Were these 2 Aherns related? If yes, perhaps he was receiving the things she had stolen, therefore there was complicity and he should have gone with her - perhaps he did. Malvary in Ottawa

I would be interested in reading this edition of the Gazette. May I have the website address. Thanks, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <genire-request@rootsweb.com> To: <genire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:00 AM Subject: GENIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 280 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Michael Merrigan) > 2. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Graham Milne) > 3. New files in IGP for October (Christina Finn Hunt) > 4. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Graham Milne) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:25:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secretary@familyhistory.ie> > Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) > To: genire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <667fe672-3484-4851-8468-ae5bd6435a7e@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >> On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > A Chairde, >> >> > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >> > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available >> > to view by clicking on the following >> > link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >> >> > Featured in this issue: >> >> > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >> > + Honorary Herald Appointed >> > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature (www.fourcourtspress.ie) >> > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >> > + GSI Website & Archival Services >> > + A Fitting Tribute >> > + James Scannell Reports... >> > +++ Vanishing Names >> > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >> > +++ National Library Book >> > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >> > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >> > + GSI Lectures & News >> > + Presidential Inauguration >> > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >> > + Diary Dates >> > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >> > + Arms & Emblems Register >> > + Guild of One-Name Studies >> > + GSI Journal >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Michael Merrigan >> > General Secretary >> > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >> >> I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >> something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. If, as you >> have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >> doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >> would have done something long ago to protect the office. Arms are >> indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >> and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. >> >> Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >> >> I really hate to see it going this way. Like the article however, I >> think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. > > > Greg, a Chara, > > The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight > the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery > of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a > bill' to achieve such in 2002. This culminated in the publication of > the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. > > Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain > vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its > proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their > view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status > quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by > the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the > 20th century. > > One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a > Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief > Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. > This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic > services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important > part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. > > Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions > (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish > Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the > National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript > Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the > 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. > > It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status > quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the > possible demise of the State's heraldic services. This, no doubt, > gives rise to many questions. > > Regards, > > Michael Merrigan > General Secretary > Genealogical Society of Ireland > www.familyhistory.ie > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:57:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Graham Milne <grahammilne001@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) > To: genire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <39f9135e-8482-4f0b-9f2b-fda27ccb3921@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> > wrote: >> On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >> > wrote: >> >> > > A Chairde, >> >> > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >> > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is >> > > available >> > > to view by clicking on the following >> > > link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >> >> > > Featured in this issue: >> >> > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >> > > + Honorary Herald Appointed >> > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature ?(www.fourcourtspress.ie) >> > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >> > > + GSI Website & Archival Services >> > > + A Fitting Tribute >> > > + James Scannell Reports... >> > > +++ Vanishing Names >> > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >> > > +++ National Library Book >> > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >> > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >> > > + GSI Lectures & News >> > > + Presidential Inauguration >> > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >> > > + Diary Dates >> > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >> > > + Arms & Emblems Register >> > > + Guild of One-Name Studies >> > > + GSI Journal >> >> > > Regards, >> >> > > Michael Merrigan >> > > General Secretary >> > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >> >> > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >> > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. ?If, as you >> > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >> > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >> > would have done something long ago to protect the office. ?Arms are >> > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >> > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. >> >> > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >> >> > I really hate to see it going this way. ?Like the article however, I >> > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. >> >> Greg, a Chara, >> >> The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight >> the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery >> of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a >> bill' to achieve such in 2002. ?This culminated in the publication of >> the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. >> >> Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain >> vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its >> proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their >> view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status >> quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by >> the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the >> 20th century. >> >> One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a >> Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief >> Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. >> This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic >> services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important >> part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. >> >> Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions >> (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish >> Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the >> National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript >> Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the >> 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. >> >> It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status >> quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the >> possible demise of the State's heraldic services. ?This, no doubt, >> gives rise to many questions. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Merrigan >> General Secretary >> Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a > herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step > into the breach. Well done. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:23:19 -0500 > From: Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> > Subject: New files in IGP for October > To: SHAMROCK@rootsweb.com, ireland@rootsweb.com, GENIRE@rootsweb.com, > IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com, IRISH-MI-L@rootsweb.com, > IRISH-IN-PHILADELPHIA@rootsweb.com, IRISH-IN-UK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <856f07760911130723k2f0b55b0h1be9052acf73ea3f@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I am a bit late with this. Our site was down due to an electrical > outage so I couldn't compile any updates. > I have skipped the small files like single obits and vital records to > keep the list shorter. > To view any of the items below go to: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > Then click on the County and Subject Heading. Or use the search > engine. Subject Headings are in Caps. > > Armagh Genealogy Archives > CENSUS SUBSTITUTES > -Landowners 1870's > PHOTOS > -People, Church, Bible > > Cork Genealogy Archives > CHURCH > Update-Info on various surnames from area around Skibbereen, SW County > Cork > > Down Genealogy Archives > CENSUS SUBSTITUTES > -Landowners 1870's > > Dublin Genealogy Archives > LAND > -Canceled Valuation Books, Royal Canal Bank, Arrans Quay ca. 1917-1919 > -Canceled Valuation Books, Royse Road, Arran Quay ca. 1917-1919 > -Canceled Valuation Books, Phibsborough Road (pt1&2), Arrans Quay ca. > 1917-1919 > HEADSTONES > -Update - Deansgrange Cemetery, St. Mogue's Part 1 > PHOTOS > -Assorted photos of churches > > Fermanagh Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Church Photos > > Kerry Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Church > > Kildare Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Church Photos > > Laois (Queens) > NEWS > LAOIS, Freeman's Journal 16 July 1860 > LAOIS, Sep 25 1887, The Times > LAOIS, Dublin Journal, 12 Oct 1745 > > Leitrim Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Churches, People, Cemetery > > Limerick Ireland Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Church Photos > HEADSTONES > -Pallasgreen Graveyard - Old Pallas Cemetery (part) > > Louth Genealogy Archives > CENSUS SUBSTITUTES > -Landowners 1870's > > Mayo Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > Assorted Church photos > > Monaghan Genealogy Archives > HEADSTONES > -St Salvatore's, Donagh > PHOTOS > -Church Photos > MILITARY & CONSTABULARY > Royal Irish Constabulary native county of Monaghan Sep 1852-May 1853 > > Offaly (Kings) Genealogy Archives > CEMETERIES > -Eglish - Partial Survey > > Roscommon Genealogy Archives > CENSUS SUBSTITUTES SUBSTITUTES > -Landowners 1870's > > Sligo > PHOTOS > -Church > > Tipperary Genealogy Archives > OBITUARIES > -Assorted obits > PHOTOS > -Church > > Waterford > PHOTOS > Church photo > > Wexford Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Churches > HEADSTONES > Anglican Church, Inch, Wexford > -St. James Horetown, Wexford > > Wicklow Genealogy Archives > PHOTOS > -Churches > HEADSTONES > -Update, Glenealy Parish Church Cemetery > -St. Patrick's Church, Enniskerry - Part 4 > -Update, Kilcoole, Co.Wicklow > > If I have missed anything I apologize. > Christina > *We are glad to have your submissions of information and photos. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:20:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Graham Milne <grahammilne001@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) > To: genire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <9497ad34-4203-41cc-963a-4063f38da452@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 13 Nov, 12:57, Graham Milne <grahammilne...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> > > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > > A Chairde, >> >> > > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >> > > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is >> > > > available >> > > > to view by clicking on the following >> > > > link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >> >> > > > Featured in this issue: >> >> > > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >> > > > + Honorary Herald Appointed >> > > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature ?(www.fourcourtspress.ie) >> > > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >> > > > + GSI Website & Archival Services >> > > > + A Fitting Tribute >> > > > + James Scannell Reports... >> > > > +++ Vanishing Names >> > > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >> > > > +++ National Library Book >> > > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >> > > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >> > > > + GSI Lectures & News >> > > > + Presidential Inauguration >> > > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >> > > > + Diary Dates >> > > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >> > > > + Arms & Emblems Register >> > > > + Guild of One-Name Studies >> > > > + GSI Journal >> >> > > > Regards, >> >> > > > Michael Merrigan >> > > > General Secretary >> > > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >> >> > > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >> > > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. ?If, as you >> > > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >> > > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >> > > would have done something long ago to protect the office. ?Arms are >> > > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >> > > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and >> > > genealogy. >> >> > > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >> >> > > I really hate to see it going this way. ?Like the article however, I >> > > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. >> >> > Greg, a Chara, >> >> > The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight >> > the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery >> > of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a >> > bill' to achieve such in 2002. ?This culminated in the publication of >> > the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. >> >> > Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain >> > vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its >> > proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their >> > view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status >> > quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by >> > the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the >> > 20th century. >> >> > One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a >> > Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief >> > Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. >> > This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic >> > services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important >> > part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. >> >> > Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions >> > (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish >> > Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the >> > National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript >> > Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the >> > 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. >> >> > It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status >> > quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the >> > possible demise of the State's heraldic services. ?This, no doubt, >> > gives rise to many questions. >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Michael Merrigan >> > General Secretary >> > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie-Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a >> herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step >> into the breach. Well done.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > PS Get all the authentic Irish chiefs/nobs to support you and that > will give it sufficient authority. The ancient Irish earls undoubtedly > had the right to grant arms and to create barons and knights. Why not > get it going again? That would be great fun! Who would be best > qualified to do this? Duke of Leinster? Stuff the bolshy plebs in your > parliament I say! > > PPS The Countess of Sutherland created a baron not that long ago > (1990s) so if she can do it I am sure some Irish nobs can! > > > End of GENIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 280 > **************************************

I am a bit late with this. Our site was down due to an electrical outage so I couldn't compile any updates. I have skipped the small files like single obits and vital records to keep the list shorter. To view any of the items below go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Then click on the County and Subject Heading. Or use the search engine. Subject Headings are in Caps. Armagh Genealogy Archives CENSUS SUBSTITUTES -Landowners 1870's PHOTOS -People, Church, Bible Cork Genealogy Archives CHURCH Update-Info on various surnames from area around Skibbereen, SW County Cork Down Genealogy Archives CENSUS SUBSTITUTES -Landowners 1870's Dublin Genealogy Archives LAND -Canceled Valuation Books, Royal Canal Bank, Arrans Quay ca. 1917-1919 -Canceled Valuation Books, Royse Road, Arran Quay ca. 1917-1919 -Canceled Valuation Books, Phibsborough Road (pt1&2), Arrans Quay ca. 1917-1919 HEADSTONES -Update - Deansgrange Cemetery, St. Mogue's Part 1 PHOTOS -Assorted photos of churches Fermanagh Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Church Photos Kerry Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Church Kildare Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Church Photos Laois (Queens) NEWS LAOIS, Freeman's Journal 16 July 1860 LAOIS, Sep 25 1887, The Times LAOIS, Dublin Journal, 12 Oct 1745 Leitrim Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Churches, People, Cemetery Limerick Ireland Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Church Photos HEADSTONES -Pallasgreen Graveyard - Old Pallas Cemetery (part) Louth Genealogy Archives CENSUS SUBSTITUTES -Landowners 1870's Mayo Genealogy Archives PHOTOS Assorted Church photos Monaghan Genealogy Archives HEADSTONES -St Salvatore's, Donagh PHOTOS -Church Photos MILITARY & CONSTABULARY Royal Irish Constabulary native county of Monaghan Sep 1852-May 1853 Offaly (Kings) Genealogy Archives CEMETERIES -Eglish - Partial Survey Roscommon Genealogy Archives CENSUS SUBSTITUTES SUBSTITUTES -Landowners 1870's Sligo PHOTOS -Church Tipperary Genealogy Archives OBITUARIES -Assorted obits PHOTOS -Church Waterford PHOTOS Church photo Wexford Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Churches HEADSTONES Anglican Church, Inch, Wexford -St. James Horetown, Wexford Wicklow Genealogy Archives PHOTOS -Churches HEADSTONES -Update, Glenealy Parish Church Cemetery -St. Patrick's Church, Enniskerry - Part 4 -Update, Kilcoole, Co.Wicklow If I have missed anything I apologize. Christina *We are glad to have your submissions of information and photos.

On 13 Nov, 12:57, Graham Milne <grahammilne...@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> > > > wrote: > > > > > A Chairde, > > > > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the > > > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available > > > > to view by clicking on the following link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ > > > > > Featured in this issue: > > > > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? > > > > + Honorary Herald Appointed > > > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature  (www.fourcourtspress.ie) > > > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? > > > > + GSI Website & Archival Services > > > > + A Fitting Tribute > > > > + James Scannell Reports... > > > > +++ Vanishing Names > > > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall > > > > +++ National Library Book > > > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck > > > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) > > > > + GSI Lectures & News > > > > + Presidential Inauguration > > > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages > > > > + Diary Dates > > > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) > > > > + Arms & Emblems Register > > > > + Guild of One-Name Studies > > > > + GSI Journal > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Michael Merrigan > > > > General Secretary > > > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie > > > > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be > > > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI.  If, as you > > > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just > > > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and > > > would have done something long ago to protect the office.  Arms are > > > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library > > > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. > > > > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . > > > > I really hate to see it going this way.  Like the article however, I > > > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. > > > Greg, a Chara, > > > The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight > > the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery > > of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a > > bill' to achieve such in 2002.  This culminated in the publication of > > the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. > > > Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain > > vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its > > proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their > > view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status > > quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by > > the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the > > 20th century. > > > One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a > > Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief > > Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. > > This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic > > services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important > > part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. > > > Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions > > (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad Éireann (Irish > > Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the > > National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript > > Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the > > 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. > > > It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status > > quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the > > possible demise of the State's heraldic services.  This, no doubt, > > gives rise to many questions. > > > Regards, > > > Michael Merrigan > > General Secretary > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a > herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step > into the breach. Well done.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - PS Get all the authentic Irish chiefs/nobs to support you and that will give it sufficient authority. The ancient Irish earls undoubtedly had the right to grant arms and to create barons and knights. Why not get it going again? That would be great fun! Who would be best qualified to do this? Duke of Leinster? Stuff the bolshy plebs in your parliament I say! PPS The Countess of Sutherland created a baron not that long ago (1990s) so if she can do it I am sure some Irish nobs can!

On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> wrote: > On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> > > wrote: > > > > A Chairde, > > > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the > > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available > > > to view by clicking on the following link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ > > > > Featured in this issue: > > > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? > > > + Honorary Herald Appointed > > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature  (www.fourcourtspress.ie) > > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? > > > + GSI Website & Archival Services > > > + A Fitting Tribute > > > + James Scannell Reports... > > > +++ Vanishing Names > > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall > > > +++ National Library Book > > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck > > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) > > > + GSI Lectures & News > > > + Presidential Inauguration > > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages > > > + Diary Dates > > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) > > > + Arms & Emblems Register > > > + Guild of One-Name Studies > > > + GSI Journal > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael Merrigan > > > General Secretary > > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie > > > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be > > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI.  If, as you > > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just > > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and > > would have done something long ago to protect the office.  Arms are > > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library > > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. > > > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . > > > I really hate to see it going this way.  Like the article however, I > > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. > > Greg, a Chara, > > The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight > the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery > of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a > bill' to achieve such in 2002.  This culminated in the publication of > the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. > > Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain > vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its > proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their > view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status > quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by > the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the > 20th century. > > One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a > Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief > Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. > This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic > services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important > part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. > > Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions > (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad Éireann (Irish > Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the > National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript > Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the > 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. > > It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status > quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the > possible demise of the State's heraldic services.  This, no doubt, > gives rise to many questions. > > Regards, > > Michael Merrigan > General Secretary > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step into the breach. Well done.

On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> > wrote: > > > > > A Chairde, > > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available > > to view by clicking on the following link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ > > > Featured in this issue: > > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? > > + Honorary Herald Appointed > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature (www.fourcourtspress.ie) > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? > > + GSI Website & Archival Services > > + A Fitting Tribute > > + James Scannell Reports... > > +++ Vanishing Names > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall > > +++ National Library Book > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) > > + GSI Lectures & News > > + Presidential Inauguration > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages > > + Diary Dates > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) > > + Arms & Emblems Register > > + Guild of One-Name Studies > > + GSI Journal > > > Regards, > > > Michael Merrigan > > General Secretary > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie > > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. If, as you > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and > would have done something long ago to protect the office. Arms are > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. > > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . > > I really hate to see it going this way. Like the article however, I > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. Greg, a Chara, The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a bill' to achieve such in 2002. This culminated in the publication of the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the 20th century. One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad Éireann (Irish Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the possible demise of the State's heraldic services. This, no doubt, gives rise to many questions. Regards, Michael Merrigan General Secretary Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie