Hi Ed and Veronica, Thanks for the prompt replies. The TRACEYs/CAREYs that I am researching are shown in the Griffiths Valuation as living in Ballynough, just a few miles east of Shanballyanagh/Couraganeen. I do not have direct evidence that they are "mine" but the circumstantial evidence is very strong. Mine emigrated to Niagara County, NY in 1863. The KILMARTIN reference may mean that there is more than a "neighbors" connection. Are either of you tracing/in contact with any SHEEDYs in County Tipperary? John > From: vcm1@earthlink.net > > > > Hi Ed, > I am also researching in Bourney (Couraganeen) parish. ... I thought you might be interested in the Madden and Sheedy > references. > Veronica > > > > > From: "Ed Madden" > > > > Hi John, > > We're "neighbors", my Madden's are also from Couraganeen! ... here are some Tracey names I've run across ... . > > > > 1. James TRACY of Shanballyanagh listed in the Tithe Applotment.> > > > 2. Anne KILMARTIN's birth is recorded in the Couraganeen > > Parish Register ... .> > Her father is listed as Anthony KILMARTIN and her mother is listed as > "Ar...> > Treacy"? > > 3. James Tracey of Shanballyanagh is listed in Griffiths Valuation > > 4. "Jeremauh" Treacy is listed in the Couraganeen Parish > > Register as a baptism sponsor of> > Bridget SHEEDY. > > 5. Possible marriage year for John TRACEY and Bridget MADDEN. > > 6. Katie TRACEY . Her father is John TRACEY and > mother> > is Bridget MADDEN. Residence is "Summer Hill, Roscrea". > > > > -----Original Message----- > > On Behalf Of John Carey > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:46 PM > > Subject: [COTIPPERARY] (no subject) > > > > I am researching the Tracey/Tracy FAMILIES of Bourney(Cournaganeen).... > > John Carey > > Helotes, Texas > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7sec&slideid=1&media=aero-shake-7second&listid=1&stop=1&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009

In several of the Irish newspaper of old, I find where "old" people married very young people. Example, women 100 who had had 8 prior husbands married a young man in his mid 20's, in another a man 70 years old married a girl 11 years and 1 month. Would these be typo's or for real? I can't imagine this myself, however.... Sandy

Dear visitors of , http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/l/l/Jrgen-Mller/ , our ancestor is Peter Johann Hoffmann (1790-1848) who lived and died in Estonia. We have collected quite a bit of info. Just have a look at the pages & photos linked to this website. There might well be details besides these (e.g. what exactly did PJH do at Tallinn or info on PJHs wife)

Dear visitors of , http://www.genealogy.com/users/m/l/l/Jrgen-Mller/ , our ancestor is Peter Johann Hoffmann (1790-1848) who lived and died in Estonia. We have collected quite a bit of info. Just have a look at the pages & photos linked to this website. There might well be details besides these (e.g. what exactly did PJH do at Tallinn or info on PJHs wife)

Hi John, We're "neighbors", my Madden's are also from Couraganeen! I've made 3 trips there and here are some Tracey names I've run across that I hope will be of some help. I've not yet been able to establish a link to Bridget MADDEN, wife of John TRACEY however. 1. 1829, May. James TRACY of Shanballyanagh listed in the Tithe Applotment 2. 1846, 20-Sep. Anne KILMARTIN's birth is recorded in the Couraganeen Parish Register (National Library Ireland, POS 2478). Her father is listed as Anthony KILMARTIN and her mother is listed as "Ar... Treacy"? Sponsors of the newborn Anne are "New" MADDEN and Judy RIORDAN. (NOTE- the hand writing was horrible!) 3. 1851. James Tracey of Shanballyanagh is listed in Griffiths Valuation 4. 1862, 13-Jul. "Jeremauh" Treacy is listed in the Couraganeen Parish Register (National Library Ireland, POS 2478) as a baptism sponsor of Bridget SHEEDY. 5. 1879? Possible marriage year for John TRACEY and Bridget MADDEN based on their daughter's (Katie) 11 Dec 1880 birth registration 6. 1880, 11-Dec. Katie TRACEY is born. Her father is John TRACEY and mother is Bridget MADDEN. Residence is "Summer Hill, Roscrea" and the name of the person who reported the birth is Elizabeth BANNON, she seems to be a midwife. -----Original Message----- From: cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Carey Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:46 PM To: Rootsweb COTIPPERARY; Rootsweb GENIRE Subject: [COTIPPERARY] (no subject) I am researching the Tracey/Tracy FAMILIES of Bourney(Cournaganeen).... John Carey Helotes, Texas

I am researching the Tracey/Tracy FAMILIES of Bourney(Cournaganeen). I have had some limited success using the Irish Family History Foundation data base (brsgenealogy.com) but it is an expensive way to go. Short of travelling to Ireland to use the National Library in Dublin or the Heritage Center in Nenagh, is there an online resource, LDS fiche or stateside library that would have these records available? John Carey Helotes, Texas _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009

The Irish death notice index has just been updated with the addition of 398 entries, many of them from the Nenagh Guardian, for a total of 54,500 names of people who were born and/or died in Ireland, or whose deaths were mentioned in Irish newspapers. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Irish Death Notice Database ahern@world.std.com | http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

A Chairde, The December 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland may be accessed by clicking on the following link http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18481218/ Featured in this month's issue: + Vassiliou's Appointment Welcomed + Presidential Inauguration + Vol. 4 (2009) Contents + Minister Launches Website www.irishgenealogy.ie + GSI Website & Archival Services + Heritage Matters!! +++ Archives for the 21st Century +++ Placenames on Signage www.coimisineir.ie +++ Archive Donation + GSI Lecture Programme +++ Précis of November Lecture + Phyllis Flynn, RIP + Membership Renewals due January 2010 + Diary Dates + Celebrating Nineteen Years (3) + The Irish Franciscans 1534-1990 (review) www.fourcourtspress.ie + GSI Arms Register + SS Dresden www.descendientesdresden.blogspot.com Season's Greetings to All Nollaig Shona agua Áthbhliain fé Mhaise Michael Merrigan General Secretary Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie

In soc.genealogy.ireland "Fred(2)" <raydob@gmail.com> wrote: : On Dec 2, 4:54?am, Dennis Ahern <ah...@world.std.com> wrote: :> From The Cork Examiner, 2 June 1864 - :> :> ? ? ? Signor Randegger's new operetta, "The Rival Beauties," [which] :> ? ?played with so much success at the Leeds Theatre is announced for :> ? ?Tuesday and Wednesday at the Crystal Palace. :> :> ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - :> ? Dennis Ahern ? ? ? ? ? ? | ? ?Ireland Newspaper Abstracts ? :> ? Acton, Massachusetts ? ? | ? ?http://www.IrelandOldNews.com :> ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - : Were there any Aherns in the cast? The closest the Aherns ever got to opera was when John Ahern sold his house near one in Urbana, Illinois and bought a saloon in Chicago. See http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~aherns/ahnws190.htm#24/09/1908 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

On Dec 2, 4:54 am, Dennis Ahern <ah...@world.std.com> wrote: > From The Cork Examiner, 2 June 1864 - > >       Signor Randegger's new operetta, "The Rival Beauties," [which] >    played with so much success at the Leeds Theatre is announced for >    Tuesday and Wednesday at the Crystal Palace. > >   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >   Dennis Ahern             |    Ireland Newspaper Abstracts   >   Acton, Massachusetts     |    http://www.IrelandOldNews.com >   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Were there any Aherns in the cast? Fred(2)

>From The Cork Examiner, 2 June 1864 - Signor Randegger's new operetta, "The Rival Beauties," [which] played with so much success at the Leeds Theatre is announced for Tuesday and Wednesday at the Crystal Palace. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Let us assume that a family decided to move from County Mayo to County Queens in the year 1815, would they be able to relocate without any legal constraints or would they have to notify the local authorities about their relocation intentions? This question takes into consideration the right of mobility; it also takes into consideration the practicality of keeping track of where people people are living at any given time. I am interested in finding out if there are any directories, registries, or ledgers available that kept track of the movement of Irish residents from one county to another during the early 1800s. It would seem that by the mid 1800s, the task of keeping track of Irish mobility would have been an overwhelming task when one considers the great numbers of persons, who abandoned the places that were most impacted by the Great Famine and moved elsewhere throughout the world.

Looking for: I know both Adolphe Regis Guttin and a priest, Father Granottier went back and forth to France -- perhaps fairly often so a number of ships are going to be involved. However I am trying to find the first trip that my grandfather came over to Canada and established himself as a tailor in Owen Sound, Ontario. Likely around 1870 or before. I know I saw F. X. Granottier listed several times as a passenger on Ancestry at the library. But can't ever find Adolphe Regis Guttin' trips. He likely went to Europe (I bet just France) for fabrics, for instance. It would be nice to know the ship and the first time, if possible.

"Jim Riley" <jrileysrie@yahoo.ie> wrote in message news:mailman.567.1259347845.2037.genire@rootsweb.com... Does anyone know anything about the U.S. Victoria a steamship that brought Immigrants to New York from Ireland? My great-great grandfather may have been on it and can't find much information about it. His name was Cornelius Rahilly (Riley), and he left from the Port of Corkon the 15th of June, 1847. Arrived in Bufalo, N.Y. in September, 1847. Also, I've been a part of this group for a long time, and looking for new and interesting Facebook Friends. Please add me to your group of Facebook Friends? http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000502022978 Thank You, Jim Riley =========================================================== Jim, Are you familiar with this site? You might check it out. there are some comments about a Cornelius Rahilly. http://genforum.genealogy.com/rahilly/ Good luck, Joe in Texas

Does anyone know anything about the U.S. Victoria a steamship that brought Immigrants to New York from Ireland?  My great-great grandfather may have been on it and can't find much information about it.  His name was Cornelius Rahilly (Riley), and he left from the Port of Corkon the 15th of June, 1847.  Arrived in Bufalo, N.Y. in September, 1847.    Also, I've been a part of this group for a long time, and looking for new and interesting Facebook Friends.  Please add me to your group of Facebook Friends?     http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000502022978   Thank You,   Jim Riley Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Alison Kilpatrick <akilpatrick@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: : Transcribed from the 26 November 1822 edition of The Strabane Morning : Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: : The Brompton, with 172 male convicts, sailed from Cove on Saturday : for Botany Bay. It was actually the Brampton, not Brompton. On board was a Michael Ahern from Co. Tipperary who was landed on April 28 and forwarded to Windsor for distribution. Michael was later listed as being in the employ of William Cox of Hobart Ville. He was sometimes listed as O'Hearn and in 1829 petitioned to marry Judith Kennedy at Kinreagh. He was a ploughman and had been transported for life. He died in 1840 at Port Macquarie. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Transcribed from the 26 November 1822 edition of The Strabane Morning Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: The Brompton, with 172 male convicts, sailed from Cove on Saturday for Botany Bay. ==============

Good address if you want to see what Genealogist had 15 years ago in the days of FIDO before WWW conquered the world. http://ftp.aset.psu.edu/pub/genealogy/text/INDEX.html Contains the first copy of the 1851 Irish Census Remains. A more complete copy and correct copy can be found at http://www.irishgenealogy.net/cp/phpBB3/index.php --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =-

This was in Message 4 below: > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available > to view by clicking on the following > link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ Janet Truncali wrote: > I would be interested in reading this edition of the Gazette. > May I have the website address. > Thanks, > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <genire-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <genire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:00 AM > Subject: GENIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 280 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Michael Merrigan) >> 2. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Graham Milne) >> 3. New files in IGP for October (Christina Finn Hunt) >> 4. Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) (Graham Milne) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:25:01 -0800 (PST) >> From: Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secretary@familyhistory.ie> >> Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) >> To: genire@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <667fe672-3484-4851-8468-ae5bd6435a7e@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > A Chairde, >>> >>> > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >>> > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available >>> > to view by clicking on the following > >>> link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >>> >>> > Featured in this issue: >>> >>> > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >>> > + Honorary Herald Appointed >>> > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature (www.fourcourtspress.ie) >>> > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >>> > + GSI Website & Archival Services >>> > + A Fitting Tribute >>> > + James Scannell Reports... >>> > +++ Vanishing Names >>> > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >>> > +++ National Library Book >>> > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >>> > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >>> > + GSI Lectures & News >>> > + Presidential Inauguration >>> > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >>> > + Diary Dates >>> > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >>> > + Arms & Emblems Register >>> > + Guild of One-Name Studies >>> > + GSI Journal >>> >>> > Regards, >>> >>> > Michael Merrigan >>> > General Secretary >>> > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >>> >>> I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >>> something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. If, as you >>> have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >>> doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >>> would have done something long ago to protect the office. Arms are >>> indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >>> and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. >>> >>> Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >>> >>> I really hate to see it going this way. Like the article however, I >>> think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. >> >> >> Greg, a Chara, >> >> The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight >> the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery >> of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a >> bill' to achieve such in 2002. This culminated in the publication of >> the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. >> >> Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain >> vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its >> proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their >> view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status >> quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by >> the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the >> 20th century. >> >> One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a >> Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief >> Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. >> This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic >> services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important >> part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. >> >> Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions >> (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish >> Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the >> National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript >> Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the >> 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. >> >> It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status >> quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the >> possible demise of the State's heraldic services. This, no doubt, >> gives rise to many questions. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Merrigan >> General Secretary >> Genealogical Society of Ireland >> www.familyhistory.ie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:57:15 -0800 (PST) >> From: Graham Milne <grahammilne001@btinternet.com> >> Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) >> To: genire@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <39f9135e-8482-4f0b-9f2b-fda27ccb3921@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >> wrote: >>> On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > > A Chairde, >>> >>> > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >>> > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is > > >>> available >>> > > to view by clicking on the following > > >>> link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >>> >>> > > Featured in this issue: >>> >>> > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >>> > > + Honorary Herald Appointed >>> > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature ?(www.fourcourtspress.ie) >>> > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >>> > > + GSI Website & Archival Services >>> > > + A Fitting Tribute >>> > > + James Scannell Reports... >>> > > +++ Vanishing Names >>> > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >>> > > +++ National Library Book >>> > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >>> > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >>> > > + GSI Lectures & News >>> > > + Presidential Inauguration >>> > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >>> > > + Diary Dates >>> > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >>> > > + Arms & Emblems Register >>> > > + Guild of One-Name Studies >>> > > + GSI Journal >>> >>> > > Regards, >>> >>> > > Michael Merrigan >>> > > General Secretary >>> > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >>> >>> > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >>> > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. ?If, as you >>> > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >>> > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >>> > would have done something long ago to protect the office. ?Arms are >>> > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >>> > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and genealogy. >>> >>> > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >>> >>> > I really hate to see it going this way. ?Like the article however, I >>> > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. >>> >>> Greg, a Chara, >>> >>> The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight >>> the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery >>> of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a >>> bill' to achieve such in 2002. ?This culminated in the publication of >>> the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain >>> vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its >>> proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their >>> view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status >>> quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by >>> the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the >>> 20th century. >>> >>> One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a >>> Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief >>> Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. >>> This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic >>> services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important >>> part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. >>> >>> Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions >>> (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish >>> Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the >>> National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript >>> Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the >>> 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. >>> >>> It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status >>> quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the >>> possible demise of the State's heraldic services. ?This, no doubt, >>> gives rise to many questions. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michael Merrigan >>> General Secretary >>> Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a >> herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step >> into the breach. Well done. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:23:19 -0500 >> From: Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> >> Subject: New files in IGP for October >> To: SHAMROCK@rootsweb.com, ireland@rootsweb.com, GENIRE@rootsweb.com, >> IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com, IRISH-MI-L@rootsweb.com, >> IRISH-IN-PHILADELPHIA@rootsweb.com, IRISH-IN-UK@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <856f07760911130723k2f0b55b0h1be9052acf73ea3f@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> I am a bit late with this. Our site was down due to an electrical >> outage so I couldn't compile any updates. >> I have skipped the small files like single obits and vital records to >> keep the list shorter. >> To view any of the items below go to: >> http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ >> Then click on the County and Subject Heading. Or use the search >> engine. Subject Headings are in Caps. >> >> Armagh Genealogy Archives >> CENSUS SUBSTITUTES >> -Landowners 1870's >> PHOTOS >> -People, Church, Bible >> >> Cork Genealogy Archives >> CHURCH >> Update-Info on various surnames from area around Skibbereen, SW County >> Cork >> >> Down Genealogy Archives >> CENSUS SUBSTITUTES >> -Landowners 1870's >> >> Dublin Genealogy Archives >> LAND >> -Canceled Valuation Books, Royal Canal Bank, Arrans Quay ca. 1917-1919 >> -Canceled Valuation Books, Royse Road, Arran Quay ca. 1917-1919 >> -Canceled Valuation Books, Phibsborough Road (pt1&2), Arrans Quay ca. >> 1917-1919 >> HEADSTONES >> -Update - Deansgrange Cemetery, St. Mogue's Part 1 >> PHOTOS >> -Assorted photos of churches >> >> Fermanagh Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Church Photos >> >> Kerry Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Church >> >> Kildare Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Church Photos >> >> Laois (Queens) >> NEWS >> LAOIS, Freeman's Journal 16 July 1860 >> LAOIS, Sep 25 1887, The Times >> LAOIS, Dublin Journal, 12 Oct 1745 >> >> Leitrim Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Churches, People, Cemetery >> >> Limerick Ireland Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Church Photos >> HEADSTONES >> -Pallasgreen Graveyard - Old Pallas Cemetery (part) >> >> Louth Genealogy Archives >> CENSUS SUBSTITUTES >> -Landowners 1870's >> >> Mayo Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> Assorted Church photos >> >> Monaghan Genealogy Archives >> HEADSTONES >> -St Salvatore's, Donagh >> PHOTOS >> -Church Photos >> MILITARY & CONSTABULARY >> Royal Irish Constabulary native county of Monaghan Sep 1852-May 1853 >> >> Offaly (Kings) Genealogy Archives >> CEMETERIES >> -Eglish - Partial Survey >> >> Roscommon Genealogy Archives >> CENSUS SUBSTITUTES SUBSTITUTES >> -Landowners 1870's >> >> Sligo >> PHOTOS >> -Church >> >> Tipperary Genealogy Archives >> OBITUARIES >> -Assorted obits >> PHOTOS >> -Church >> >> Waterford >> PHOTOS >> Church photo >> >> Wexford Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Churches >> HEADSTONES >> Anglican Church, Inch, Wexford >> -St. James Horetown, Wexford >> >> Wicklow Genealogy Archives >> PHOTOS >> -Churches >> HEADSTONES >> -Update, Glenealy Parish Church Cemetery >> -St. Patrick's Church, Enniskerry - Part 4 >> -Update, Kilcoole, Co.Wicklow >> >> If I have missed anything I apologize. >> Christina >> *We are glad to have your submissions of information and photos. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:20:41 -0800 (PST) >> From: Graham Milne <grahammilne001@btinternet.com> >> Subject: Re: Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (Nov. 2009) >> To: genire@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <9497ad34-4203-41cc-963a-4063f38da452@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On 13 Nov, 12:57, Graham Milne <grahammilne...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> On 13 Nov, 10:25, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Nov 13, 5:32 am, Greg <scoti...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> > > On 10 Nov, 01:15, Michael Merrigan <GSI.Secret...@familyhistory.ie> >>> > > wrote: >>> >>> > > > A Chairde, >>> >>> > > > The November 2009 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the >>> > > > monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is > >>> > > available >>> > > > to view by clicking on the following > > > >>> link:-http://www.docstoc.com/docs/15547176/ >>> >>> > > > Featured in this issue: >>> >>> > > > + The Last Chief Herald of Ireland? >>> > > > + Honorary Herald Appointed >>> > > > + Early Gaelic Sources & Literature ?(www.fourcourtspress.ie) >>> > > > + Population Decline or 'Ethnic Cleansing'? >>> > > > + GSI Website & Archival Services >>> > > > + A Fitting Tribute >>> > > > + James Scannell Reports... >>> > > > +++ Vanishing Names >>> > > > +++ Dublin's Viking Wall >>> > > > +++ National Library Book >>> > > > +++ Death of Werner Heubeck >>> > > > + Sources (launch ofhttp://sources.nli.ie) >>> > > > + GSI Lectures & News >>> > > > + Presidential Inauguration >>> > > > + Annual Review of the Membership Packages >>> > > > + Diary Dates >>> > > > + Celebrating Nineteen Years (2) >>> > > > + Arms & Emblems Register >>> > > > + Guild of One-Name Studies >>> > > > + GSI Journal >>> >>> > > > Regards, >>> >>> > > > Michael Merrigan >>> > > > General Secretary >>> > > > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie >>> >>> > > I found the article "The Last Chief Herald of Ireland?" to be >>> > > something of an unfortunate lid being placed on the OCHI. ?If, as >>> you >>> > > have said Michael, Ireland has an old respect for heraldry, it just >>> > > doesn't seem right then that the country would have allowed this and >>> > > would have done something long ago to protect the office. ?Arms are >>> > > indeed a money making venture for the country / the National Library >>> > > and it has a lot to do with Irish pride (I would think) and > > >>> genealogy. >>> >>> > > Scotland is undergoing hard times these days as well . . . >>> >>> > > I really hate to see it going this way. ?Like the article however, I >>> > > think that if things keep up, the OCHI will cease to exist. >>> >>> > Greg, a Chara, >>> >>> > The Genealogical Society of Ireland has been endeavouring to highlight >>> > the absolute necessity for legislative reform of the State's delivery >>> > of heraldic services since 2000 and indeed, published the 'heads of a >>> > bill' to achieve such in 2002. ?This culminated in the publication of >>> > the Genealogy & Heraldry Bill, 2006. >>> >>> > Unfortunately, the 'office' of the Chief Herald of Ireland and certain >>> > vested interests were totally opposed to the Bill and viewed its >>> > proposed structures and regulatory regime as unnecessary. In their >>> > view, and that of their supporters in Ireland and abroard, the status >>> > quo was to be defended irrespective of the difficulties encountered by >>> > the 'office' of the Chief Herald during the last two decades of the >>> > 20th century. >>> >>> > One simple aspect of the Bill would have ensured the appointment of a >>> > Deputy Chief Herald to undertake the duties and powers of the Chief >>> > Herald of Ireland in his/her absence or in the current circumstances. >>> > This would have allowed for a continuance of the delivery of heraldic >>> > services and provided heraldry with a secure future as an important >>> > part of the cultural heritage of our Republic. >>> >>> > Currently Senator Alex White's 'National Cultural Institutions >>> > (Amendment) Bill, 2008' is on the Order Paper of Seanad ?ireann (Irish >>> > Senate), however, stated government policy on the amalgamation of the >>> > National Library, National Archives and the Irish Manuscript >>> > Commission will allow the Minister to place any resolution of the >>> > 'heraldic mess' on the very, very long finger indeed. >>> >>> > It is unfortunate that the very people who sought to defend the status >>> > quo at all costs may have actually achieved just that with the >>> > possible demise of the State's heraldic services. ?This, no doubt, >>> > gives rise to many questions. >>> >>> > Regards, >>> >>> > Michael Merrigan >>> > General Secretary >>> > Genealogical Society of Irelandwww.familyhistory.ie-Hide quoted text - >>> >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> But I notice that the Genealogical Society of Ireland has appointed a >>> herald and is setting up a register of arms. I think you must step >>> into the breach. Well done.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> PS Get all the authentic Irish chiefs/nobs to support you and that >> will give it sufficient authority. The ancient Irish earls undoubtedly >> had the right to grant arms and to create barons and knights. Why not >> get it going again? That would be great fun! Who would be best >> qualified to do this? Duke of Leinster? Stuff the bolshy plebs in your >> parliament I say! >> >> PPS The Countess of Sutherland created a baron not that long ago >> (1990s) so if she can do it I am sure some Irish nobs can! >> >> >> End of GENIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 280 >> ************************************** >

The Constitution or Cork Morning Post, 4 September 1822 -- CORK (POSTPONED) ASSIZES. [continued] COUNTY. Thomas Duvall, assault, twelve months imprisonment. Charles M'Carthy, Patrick Sullivan, John Sullivan, abduction--to be hanged 7th Sept. Darby Gallavan, Darby Quinlan, Robin Quinlan, John M'Auliffe, Bryan M'Auliffe, Anthony Gibbons, Jeremiah Dawley, administering oaths, to be transported for life. James M'Carthy and Timothy M'Carthy, assault, six months imprisonment. William Duhigg, manslaughter, twelve months imprisonment, and to give security. John Hayes, stealing a shirt, one month's imprisonment. John Austen, stealing wearing apparel, nine months imprisonment. John Brien, stealing a shirt, to be transported for seven years. Mary Herlihy, stealing shirts, one month's imprisonment. Thomas Allen, sheep stealing, seven years transportation. Mary Fitton, stealing wearing apparel, six months imprisonment. Daniel Wholahan and Patrick Wholahan, sheep stealing, seven years transportation. Catherine Sweeny, stealing wearing apparel, do. Daniel Neal, stealing money, do. Daniel Keeffe, forcible possession, 6 months imprisonment. John Savage, stealing wearing apparel, seven years transportation. William Lamb, horse stealing, to be hanged 5th Oct. Michael Crowley and Cornelius Crowley, for cow stealing, to be transported for seven years. Dennis Duggan, horse stealing, to be hanged 5th Oct. John Cahill, murder, to be hanged 21st Sept. Michael Buckley, sheep stealing, to be hanged 1st Oct. Timothy Regan, sheep and goat stealing, seven years transportation. John Callaghan, sheep stealing, nine months imprisonment. Mary Hart, stealing cotton, seven years transportation. Wm. Casey, stealing leather, three months imprisonment. Bart. Donovan, stealing lambs, seven years transportation. William Mahony, Andrew Casey, and John Hassett, illicit distillation, one month's imprisonment. John Swiney, illicit distillation, fined 6d. William Duggan, manslaughter, twelve months imprisonment. David Sillis, burglary, to be hanged 28th Sept. Cornelius Crowley and Cornelius Donovan, sheep stealing, seven years transportation. Joseph Morris, manslaughter, six months imprisonment. Timothy Donovan, burglary, to be hanged 14th Sept. William Costello and Walter Fitzmaurice, for the abduction of Miss Goold, to be hanged 7th Sept. William Griffin, administering an oath, transportation for life. Jeremiah Slattery, stealing money, twelve months imprisonment. Jeremiah Duggan, manslaughter, seven years transportation. Ellen Connor and Ellen Hyde, for stealing thread, six months imprisonment. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -