Hi Martin Visit www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and search under the military records. My own gggrandfather was in the 45th regiment, headquarters in Nottingham, which told me that all military records are centralised at Kew. If you can't get to London yourself, you'll need to appoint a private researcher to find and copy the records for you -- I did this myself several years ago, had a computer crash since then so unfortunately lost the email address of the fellow I used. I think the website does list a few names though. You could also Google "57th West Middlesex Regiment Crimea" for background on the regiment itself -- about 3,460 sites came up. Good luck Maureen On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, <Martin.忽帕@nohere.net> wrote: > Hi > Apparently my gg-gradfather served with the 57th regiment around > 1854/55 gaining 2 silver medals in the crimean war with 3 bars > Sebastopol, Inkermann and Balaklava > He was corporal no. 1418 James McClees > > Anyone know how to find the 57th reg, archives site please? > -- > Martin > ©¿©¬ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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I am planning to have some research done in Belfast. My last lot of research there was expensive and achieved very little. Can anyone recommend a good researcher in this area? Thanks Sue Wood seeking McClelland in Newtownards

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I recently bought a postcard on ebay with scenes of Carnlough. On the reverse is written "Drumalla House is one of the very ancient buildings of the town and is a delightful Holiday Home for factory girls." Could I have suggestions please as to how old this card might be, and perhaps an explanation about the "factory girls". Thanks.

See: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~walsh/ Walsh Family Genealogy

Mathuna wrote: > I recently bought a postcard on ebay with scenes of Carnlough. On the > reverse is written "Drumalla House is one of the very ancient buildings > of the town and is a delightful Holiday Home for factory girls." Could > I have suggestions please as to how old this card might be, and perhaps > an explanation about the "factory girls". > > Thanks. http://www.nzghosts.co.nz/Ireland3.htm Drumalla House I will stray out of Belfast to Carnlough where I had many a great holiday at Drumalla House....there was a walled garden at the rear of the house and a high locked gateway through to it......vegetables were grown inside that garden...one day a pal and I saw two nuns walking in it...we spoke of this to Saidie Patterson the warden.....she told us that the only person with a key to that garden was a man who tended the growing crops......a night later a white robed nun was seen in the old part of the house....no facial features, glowing white and a chain and crucifix visible........on further questioning there had been nuns in that part of Carnlough a long time ago.......wooooooh giannineo http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/killygarvanbmdnotices.htm June 19 1857 On the 15th inst., at Drumalla House, Rathmullan, the wife of CAPTAIN G.A. BEDFORD, R.N., of a daughter October 29 1858 On the 24th inst., at Drumalla House, Rathmullan, the wife of CAPTAIN G.A. BEDFORD, R.N., of a son http://www.ulsterhistory.co.uk/dictionary/biogsMac1.htm McCOUBREY, MARGARET 1880-1955 Margaret McCoubrey was born in Eldersley, near Glasgow. At the age of twelve she began working for a men's outfitters shop in Glasgow, though she continued her education at night school. In 1896 she qualified as a junior shorthand typist, and three years later became secretary to the managing director of the first private telephone service in Scotland. She taught in the Skerries Business Training College, of which she became deputy head mistress at the age of twenty-four. She married and came to live in Belfast in 1905. She joined the Suffragette Movement in 1910, and was an active militant. At the outbreak of the First World War she joined the peace movement, and gave refuge to conscientious objectors. She became general secretary of the Co-Operative Guild, and from 1910 to 1916 was elected onto the board of management. During this period she sat on all the sub-committees in turn, and she taught economics and the history of the Co-Operative Society in the educational department. In the 1920s she took a one-year course in economics at Manchester University. She contributed articles to many periodicals, including the Co-Op magazine, the Wheat Sheaf, and she had a weekly column in the Co-Op News. A history of the Co-Op movement by her was unfinished at the time of her death. She was an active member of the independent Labour party, and in 1920 was elected Labour councillor for Dock ward. In 1933 she went to live in Carnlough, County Antrim, where she ran Drumalla House as a non-profit making base for members of the Belfast Girl's Club Union to come on holiday. [Reminiscence by Elizabeth Hutchinson] http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4716.15 Drumalla House was bought for holidays for mill girls from Belfast.I believe it is now owned by an Education Authority. Great place... I had about 4 holidays in the 60's at Drumalla with my junior badminton club.I did not get to know any of the locals well, other than they would remember us from year to year in shops... « Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 11:25:39 AM by giannineo »

Hello I want to thank you for your help about "Walsh" Greetings, Patrice Hénaff Bénévole Entraides 44 http://genhenaff.free.fr http://perso.orange.fr/genhenaff/

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"The Chief" <The_Chieftain@att.net> wrote in message news:1749cb0b-7f78-4475-894c-822d3aa76ddd@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com... On Feb 17, 4:33 am, "John McQuaid" <j.mcqu...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Chief > > I will further condescend to add, that before you criticise me you should > at > least first understand what I have kindly replied to Patrice, who is after > all a serious genealogist. > > I told him " a) that the writing was very poor ( we all have those > problems > don't we?) and that b) no one seems to recognise the named places in > Ireland > which are in the document. > > Literally, I wrote: " The problem seems to be with the document. The > writing > > is poor and no one seems to recognise the name of the places in Ireland." > On > behalf of the group, I am sorry but we just seem to be guessing" > > Is this not fact? > > I do apologise to the group for assuming that I can speak for you and also > for not attaching a translation with the original post; this does probably > amount to bad manners. > > Regards (Dea-mhéin) > > John Chief: Oh, I understand what you wrote, the issue here is that you don't understand and misrepresented what the problem is , which does not lie "with the document", or in the handwriting. ________________________________________________________ That conclusion is illogical given the posts in this thread. I sent a post saying that I couldn't interpret 2 letters. Liz Owen initially interpreted the name as being St(e) Dopt or Dost. Renia thought it was Stedoft. You proposed Steduft but claimed that made no sense. Russell thought it was Saint (Something). Mary said he was born in Steford. Six different people and six different answers would indicate that there IS a problem with either the handwriting or the document.

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message news:4b7cfaa2$0$12922$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > That conclusion is illogical given the posts in this thread. > > I sent a post saying that I couldn't interpret 2 letters. Liz Owen > initially interpreted the name as being St(e) Dopt or Dost. Renia thought > it was Stedoft. You proposed Steduft but claimed that made no sense. > Russell thought it was Saint (Something). Mary said he was born in > Steford. > > Six different people and six different answers would indicate that there > IS a problem with either the handwriting or the document. Thanks for that. Even the thread is confusing as they keep appearing as newly created ones. Perhaps they are trying to avoid the company? John

On Feb 18, 12:30 am, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote: > "The Chief" <The_Chieft...@att.net> wrote in message > > news:1749cb0b-7f78-4475-894c-822d3aa76ddd@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 17, 4:33 am, "John McQuaid" <j.mcqu...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Chief > > > I will further condescend to add, that before you criticise me you should > > at > > least first understand what I have kindly replied to Patrice, who is after > > all a serious genealogist. > > > I told him " a) that the writing was very poor ( we all have those > > problems > > don't we?) and that b) no one seems to recognise the named places in > > Ireland > > which are in the document. > > > Literally, I wrote: " The problem seems to be with the document. The > > writing > > > is poor and no one seems to recognise the name of the places in Ireland." > > On > > behalf of the group, I am sorry but we just seem to be guessing" > > > Is this not fact? > > > I do apologise to the group for assuming that I can speak for you and also > > for not attaching a translation with the original post; this does probably > > amount to bad manners. > > > Regards (Dea-mhéin) > > > John > > Chief: Oh, I understand what you wrote, the issue here is that you don't > understand and misrepresented what the problem is , which does not lie > "with the document", or in the handwriting. > ________________________________________________________ > That conclusion is illogical given the posts in this thread. > > I sent a post saying that I couldn't interpret 2 letters.  Liz Owen > initially interpreted the name as being St(e) Dopt or Dost.  Renia thought > it was Stedoft.  You proposed Steduft but claimed that made no sense. > Russell thought it was Saint (Something).  Mary said he was born in Steford. > > Six different people and six different answers would indicate that there IS > a problem with either the handwriting or the document. Not at all. If you were to present the members of this group with the original text of the US Declaration of Independence (without telling them what it was), I am sure you would get just as wide a variation in readings. Whether you wish to attribute such a result to a high incidence of visual problems, or functional illiteracy I will leave to you. In terms of the state of the French document in question here, or the quality of the handwriting in it, this death certificate is not at all that challenging - it is in good shape, and the handwriting is reasonably clear and very legible. As for my proposing a reading, but saying it made no sense, what is illogical about that or not to understand? Once again, this document was written by a French clerk, an official completely unfamiliar with Irish names. He either misheard, or misread the placename in the first place, such that what he wrote is garbled/corrupted and makes no sense - it is not, as written, an Irish placename. The problem is not with the handwriting, or the document. Regards, The Chief

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Hello Thanks to everyone who has taken an interest in this little problem. It seems we've got bogged down. I've been in touch with Patrice off-line, and I also applied for help to one of the French forums. * there are no problems with the names of the people involved * it's the birth place of Mr Walsh that is the problem * my French connections propose Stedoft or Stedopt, which were my original thoughts once I'd discounted the next bit * the Ste cannot be 'saint', as places with saint's names in the British Isles do not differentiate between male and female saints, as they do here in France * if this Walsh is part of the Walsh ship-building fraternity in Nantes, which is just down the road from where Patrice is working, I would expect all his papers to be in order, including a document with his place of birth on it * this would be copied by the clerk, who may have had the odd difficulty with Irish handwriting. I would doubt the witnesses would know where he came from, let alone be able to say it aloud for the clerk to guess at.- though they are not illiterate as they have both signed * another suggestion from my French correspondents is that the names as they believe they are written might make sense if said aloud with a proper Irish accent, though what that would be I don't know considering the difference between Belfast and Cork for example * it'll be interesting to see if a similar sort of problem arises when the widow dies * I have been transcribing and listing the Births Marriages and Deaths in this parish for a good ten years now; the 19th century stuff should be easier than, say, 17th century parish registers, but often isn't; this morning's crop was however a delight . I have suggested to Patrice to do what I do when I have this sort of a problem - use lots of question marks, and leave the researchers to scratch their heads over it :) Liz Owen, in SW France, where the weather is warming up; Spring could be on the way

Chief I will further condescend to add, that before you criticise me you should at least first understand what I have kindly replied to Patrice, who is after all a serious genealogist. I told him " a) that the writing was very poor ( we all have those problems don't we?) and that b) no one seems to recognise the named places in Ireland which are in the document. Literally, I wrote: " The problem seems to be with the document. The writing is poor and no one seems to recognise the name of the places in Ireland." On behalf of the group, I am sorry but we just seem to be guessing" Is this not fact? I do apologise to the group for assuming that I can speak for you and also for not attaching a translation with the original post; this does probably amount to bad manners. Regards (Dea-mhéin) John "John McQuaid" <j.mcquaid@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:IbQen.15414$w%5.6900@newsfe07.ams2... > Chief > > I have seen your previous posts on this newsgroup and do not wish to > respond further; but I will take criticism from the other members. > > (Mé ag feiceáil do phoist ar an Grúpa Nuachta agus nach mian leo freagairt > a thuilleadh. Beidh mé a ghlacadh cáineadh ó na comhaltaí eile) > > Please excuse my Gaelic > > John > > >> John, >> Taking a little liberty in speaking for the group, aren't >> you? >> Especially since you completely misrepresent the nature of the problem >> - I don't believe it is at all correct to blame, as you do, the >> handwriting in the document for the fact that we don't recognise the >> name. Rather it is that the name itself that is the problem. >> >> Regards, >> The Chief >

Chief I have seen your previous posts on this newsgroup and do not wish to respond further; but I will take criticism from the other members. (Mé ag feiceáil do phoist ar an Grúpa Nuachta agus nach mian leo freagairt a thuilleadh. Beidh mé a ghlacadh cáineadh ó na comhaltaí eile) Please excuse my Gaelic John > John, > Taking a little liberty in speaking for the group, aren't > you? > Especially since you completely misrepresent the nature of the problem > - I don't believe it is at all correct to blame, as you do, the > handwriting in the document for the fact that we don't recognise the > name. Rather it is that the name itself that is the problem. > > Regards, > The Chief

Bonsoir Patrice, La problème semble être avec le document. l'écriture est si mauvaise et personne ne peut reconnaître le nom des lieux d'Irlande. Au nom du groupe, je suis désolé, mais nous sommes éveillés jusqu'au bout' John "News" <dlo-61ib@orange.fr> wrote in message news:4b766012$0$17503$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr... > Hello, > > I'm french and I actually note the marriages of Sucé-sur-Erdre, Pays de la > Loire, France. > > I can't read names and irish places on the death bill of James WALSH and I > prefer to write exact words. > > Thank you and sorry for my poor english :( > > Read here : > > http://cjoint.com/?cnjqiWa2qW > > > Cordialement, > > Patrice Hénaff > > Bénévole Entraides 44 > http://genhenaff.free.fr > http://perso.orange.fr/genhenaff/

>From The Irish Times, 7 October 1921 - CORK MILKMAN WAYLAID. Refused to Hand Over His Money. A milkman, Maurice Christopher Ahern, was shot dead near Cork City on Wednesday night by an armed robber. The tragedy occurred at a place named Monard, a short distance outside Cork City. Ahern had been delivering milk in the city and was sitting in his trap with a friend named Daniel Healy, of Coolwer, when an armed man stopped them, ordered them out of the van, and demanded Ahern's money. He refused to give it, and the man threatened to shoot unless the money was handed over. Ahern still refused, and the armed man then counted "One, two, three," and fired. The bullet entered the eye and passed through the head, causing instant death. Healy succeeded in getting away uninjured. Some time later the body of Ahern was found on the road by other milkmen, who conveyed it home. Ahern was a member of the I.R.A. Another report states that Ahern was believed to have had money in his possession. His assailant stepped in front of the car, and, raising a revolver, called on Ahern to halt. Ahern and his companion were then ordered to stand on the road with their hands up, and the stranger demanded Ahern's money. Ahern repeatedly refused to hand it over, and the murderer, after threatening him, counted slowly "One, two, three." At the word "three" he fired, and Ahern fell, with a bullet through his head. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -