My apologies to the group for the preceding off topic comment. It was meant for the eyes only of Dennis. My machine has a mind of its own and I didn't catch it in time.

Hi Dennis, Doesn't it make you sick to read and think about it? (And it makes me sicker to see all the opposition to healthcare reform there has been.) On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Dennis Ahern wrote: > >> From The Irish Times, 20 September 1890 -- > > EVICTIONS ON THE GLENSHARROLD ESTATE > > Limerick, Friday > The evictions on the Glensharrold estate were resumed this > morning at an early hour, when four more tenants were put > out of their holdings by the Sub-sheriff, Mr. Frederick > Hobson, and emergency bailiffs. The tenats evicted to-day > were John Ahern, holding twenty acres, and owing five years' > rent ; Catherine Connell, widow, and her two sons, John and > Patrick Connell, joint-tenants of 153 acres, mainly mountain > land, at a yearly rent of £38. The Connells owe 6 years' rent. > The sheriff was accompanied by a force of 50 police under > the command of District-Inspectors Lawless, Harrison, and > Smith, of Cork ; but there were few people present, and no > disturbance of any kind occurred. Possession was given over > by the sheriff to the receiver over the estate, Mr. E. H. P. > Hosford, who attended for the purpose, and who was able to > return to Limerick by the mid-day train. All the principal > tenants on the estate have now been evicted from their > holdings. The twelve tenants still in occupation were served a > few days since with ejectment notices. They are the holders of > but small plots. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts > Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The Family lHistory Library will photocopy on request the full page of civil birth, death or marriage records. The request can be filed online and charged ($2.00 per request with a minimum of $4.00) to your credit card or by snail mail with a check. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: cecilia [mailto:myths@ic24.net] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2010 10:59 AM To: genire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865 Michael Danahy wrote: >Sue, >O K :Londonderryis N. I. so PRONI is tHE civil archive and I have not >dealt with them. In church recrods of Kerry I notice that C of I >includes death records, whereas R. C doesn't. So a Dublin death for >a Protestant may be recorded by C of I or civil. The indexes to the "civil" records pre 1922 remained in Dublin. See http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm Note they do photocopies - at least for those that are there in person. Those I have had - they p'copy the page and then trim the entry, so one gets a slip, not a sheet. One can get certificates for events in what became Northern Ireland from Belfast (http://www.groni.gov.uk/index/family-history.htm) but they cost more than the p'copies in Dublin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael Danahy wrote: >Sue, >O K :Londonderryis N. I. so PRONI is tHE civil archive and I have not >dealt with them. In church recrods of Kerry I notice that C of I >includes death records, whereas R. C doesn't. So a Dublin death for >a Protestant may be recorded by C of I or civil. The indexes to the "civil" records pre 1922 remained in Dublin. See http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm Note they do photocopies - at least for those that are there in person. Those I have had - they p'copy the page and then trim the entry, so one gets a slip, not a sheet. One can get certificates for events in what became Northern Ireland from Belfast (http://www.groni.gov.uk/index/family-history.htm) but they cost more than the p'copies in Dublin.

I have added to the various county sections of my website, the following tithe applotments: County Tipperary: St Johnstown Civil Parish, St Johnbaptist Civil Parish County Limerick: St Lawrence Civil Parish County Kilkenny: St John's Civil Parish, St Canice Civil Parish Also added to County Tipperary section are townland maps for the following civil parishes: St Johnstown, St Johnbaptist -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

For interest to anyone researching their ancestors in the old Royal Irish Constabulary. Also includes the 1911 Census information for each police barrack in every county in Ireland. See http://irishconstabulary.com Peter Mc

>From The Irish Times, 27 August 1887 - EVICTIONS IN COUNTY LIMERICK. LIMERICK, WEDNESDAY. The evictions on the property of Mr. J. C. Delmege, J.P., at Glensharrold, which were commenced yesterday, were resumed and completed to-day. Operations commenced at the house of John Connors, of Knocknagun, which was barricaded and filled with sand. The bailiffs, having failed to break in the door, ascended a ladder, and smashed in the gable window. The sheriff and police then entered. Connors and his wife were called upon to leave, but they refused to go through a window. It is alleged that Mr. Hobson caught hold of Mrs. Connors, and threatened to pitch her out, and the people outside, apprehending that this was so, groaned and hissed. Eventually the woman consented to leave, and she was helped down the ladder by her husband. Daniel Kennedy was next evicted. His house was filled with turf, but the bailiffs experienced no difficulty in removing the obstruction. John Huston was then evicted. Father Walsh said the agent, Mr. Hosford, promised to provide a home for the poor old woman who lived with the family, and who had to be helped out of the house. Patrick Casey was evicted, but put back as caretaker. Father Walsh said Mr. Hosford assured him yesterday that he would not completely dispossess them, and he has kept his word. A settlement was arrived at in the cases of Maurice Moore and Thomas Haney. On the way to the house of John Ahearn the bailiff was struck on the head with a stone. Ahearn was readmitted as caretaker. A warm dispute took place between District Inspector Purcell and Father Ambrose, the former alleging that the latter wanted to trample on him with his horse. This Father Ambrose indignantly denied. The evicitons being over, Father Walsh praised Mr. Hosford and Mr. Delmege for their kind and humane treatment of the tenantry, Father Ambrose dissenting. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Dwaine O'Donohue wrote: > I probably missed this but what are cancellation books? > > Thank you Updates (e.g., changes in land tenure) to the original valuations conducted by Richard Griffith (hence, "Griffith's Valuation"). More info is probably available from the web sites hosted by the PRONI in Belfast and the National Archives in Dublin. ajk

I probably missed this but what are cancellation books? Thank you On 1-Apr-10, at 9:04 AM, Dennis Ahern wrote: > ellen@naliboff.com wrote: > : Cancellation Books are available through the Family History > Library Catalog. > > Yes, but they are on microfilm in black and white. Only the original > books > at the Valuation Office in Dublin have the entries in color and that > is > crucial because each change in the ink color used for a cancellation > indicates a different transfer. > > -dja > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Sorry. I forgot the IGP Archives url. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Christina <snip> > WESTMEATH/Vital Records --Westmeath, A Return of Inquests - 1841 > Headstones > --The Rock Cemetery - near Multifarnham > --Russagh Cemetery > > WEXFORD/Vital Records --Wexford, A Return of Inquests - 1841 > Miscellaneous --Glynn School Roll 1865-1881 > > WICKLOW/Vital Records --Wexford, A Return of Inquests - 1841 > Headstones --Christ Church (CoI) Delgany, Part 2 > =============================================================

Here is the list of files added in March. This does not include smaller entries like obits and births etc. Since we had an inquest file for many of the counties and I wanted to keep the list from being overly long, I have put the inquests at the top next to the County Name. A few counties did not have names in the inquests so that is why they were not included. We have also added a Guest Book which is located on the main page. We would love to hear if you have found anything or if you have a question. All the volunteers enjoy getting some feedback on what you found of interest. If you leave a comment, please include where you are from. :) Have a Happy Easter, Christina, Don, Vicki, Jacquie, Cara, Bob & Mary Ann for IGP Archives GENERAL IRELAND Emigration Records --Snow George to Philadelphia from Belfast, 22 Sept. 1803 ANTRIM/Vital Records --Antrim, A Return of Inquests - 1841 ARMAGH/Vital Records --A Return of Inquests for Armagh - 1841 CORK/Vital Records --A Return of Inquests - 1841 (City of Cork) Newspaper --The Wreck of the Royal Adelaide Steamer - 7 Apr 1850 CLARE/Vital Records --Clare, A Return of Inquests - 1841 --Return of Deaths in Ballykeal Auxiliary Workhouse, From 25 Mar 1850- 25 Mar 1851 --Return of Deaths in Ennistymon Workhouses &c From 26 Mar 1850-Mar 1851 DERRY (LONDONDERRY)/Vital Records --City & County of Londonderry, A Return of Inquests, 1841 DONEGAL/Vital Records --A Return of Inquest - 1841 DOWN/Vital Records --Down, A Return of Inquests - 1841 Headstones --Knockbreada Cemetery, Belfast - Part 2 DUBLIN Vital Reccords --Dublin, A Return of Inquests - 1841 (FITZSIMONS, GALIBARDO, MAGUIRE) FERMANAGH/Photos (& scans)--Boarder Agreement James Jordan and William Little KILKENNY/Vital Records --City and County of Kilkenny, A Return of Inquests - 1841 LAOIS/Vital Records --A Return of Inquests - 1841 Church --Extraction of R.C. Baptisms -Marriages (Borris-in-Ossory (Skirke) 1840-1879 LIMERICK/Vital Records --Limerick City, A Return of Inquests, 1841 LONGFORD/Vital Records --Longford, A Return of Inquests - 1841 LOUTH/Vital Records --Drogheda, A Return of Inquests - 1841 MAYO/Vital Records --Mayo, A Return of Inquests - 1841 MONAGHAN Headstones --Glennan Presbyterian Church Graveyard --Drumsnat *Included here is the grave of the two Wilde girls, half-sisters of Oscar Wilde. WATERFORD/Wills --Denny, Thomas January 8, 1808 --Kent, Thomas November 5, 1719 --Lane, Martha April 6, 1798 WESTMEATH/Vital Records --Westmeath, A Return of Inquests - 1841 Headstones --The Rock Cemetery - near Multifarnham --Russagh Cemetery WEXFORD/Vital Records --Wexford, A Return of Inquests - 1841 Miscellaneous --Glynn School Roll 1865-1881 WICKLOW/Vital Records --Wexford, A Return of Inquests - 1841 Headstones --Christ Church (CoI) Delgany, Part 2 =============================================================

Annie O'Donnell wrote: > My ancestor's were from Oughtmeen and I think McCarron's are connected > through marriage. Is this as far as you have got? Try: http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Oughtmeen&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-710&xargs=0&pstart=1&b=11

My ancestor's were from Oughtmeen and I think McCarron's are connected through marriage.

ellen@naliboff.com wrote: : Cancellation Books are available through the Family History Library Catalog. Yes, but they are on microfilm in black and white. Only the original books at the Valuation Office in Dublin have the entries in color and that is crucial because each change in the ink color used for a cancellation indicates a different transfer. -dja

Hi Sue, The only other name on the death certificate besides the deceased is the person present at the death who may or may not be the spouse. Do you know if the death certificate exists? It was not required to report deaths so it varies if one exists. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald In a message dated 3/31/2010 3:01:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _macduff@embarqmail.com_ (mailto:macduff@embarqmail.com) writes: Hi List, I have never gotten a death cert. from Ireland and I was wondering if they put the spouse's name on the death certificate. The death was 25 April 1865. I hope the spouse will be mentioned as that would help verify the marriage I recently found. Sue macduff@embarqmail.com

IF the death was registered it will show who registered it and from this you may see their connection to the dead person. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue J Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.ireland To: IRELAND LIST Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:42 PM Subject: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865 Hi List, I have never gotten a death cert. from Ireland and I was wondering if they put the spouse's name on the death certificate. The death was 25 April 1865. I hope the spouse will be mentioned as that would help verify the marriage I recently found. Sue macduff@embarqmail.com

Cancellation Books are available through the Family History Library Catalog. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Ahern [mailto:ahern@world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:01 PM To: genire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Griffiths Valuation dianna charles wrote: : Hi : I hope someone can tell me where I would find The Cancelled Land Books : where I'm hoping to find my ancestor Hugh HEANEY unlisted. The family moved : to England around 1864 and I'm trying to verify this and I have just found : information on the cancelled land books which shows a change in the head of : the household. Thanks Kind regards Dianna They are at the Valuation Office in Dublin. See: http://www.valoff.ie/index.htm Valuation Office Ireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

dianna charles <diamonddi57@optusnet.com.au> wrote: : Hi : I hope someone can tell me where I would find The Cancelled Land Books : where I'm hoping to find my ancestor Hugh HEANEY unlisted. The family moved : to England around 1864 and I'm trying to verify this and I have just found : information on the cancelled land books which shows a change in the head of : the household. Thanks Kind regards Dianna They are at the Valuation Office in Dublin. See: http://www.valoff.ie/index.htm Valuation Office Ireland

Hi I hope someone can tell me where I would find The Cancelled Land Books where I'm hoping to find my ancestor Hugh HEANEY unlisted. The family moved to England around 1864 and I'm trying to verify this and I have just found information on the cancelled land books which shows a change in the head of the household. Thanks Kind regards Dianna

Sue, O K :Londonderryis N. I. so PRONI is tHE civil archive and I have not dealt with them. In church recrods of Kerry I notice that C of I includes death records, whereas R. C doesn't. So a Dublin death for a Protestant may be recorded by C of I or civil.