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    1. Re: Famililysearch.org
    2. Dora Smith
    3. >From another list: Great news, Familysearch are launching a new record search beta at the end of the month. They sent me the link and asked me to test it. It is not the final product. The advanced search option looks great. I have to share with my good friends on Fermanagh-Gold http://fsbeta.familysearch.org All the Irish records are there. Brendan Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Black" <mb@zetnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.ireland To: <genire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Famililysearch.org >I looked at the familysearch.org website last night for the first time > in a long time and found that the Irish record indexes have disappeared > from their pilot site. > The Philadelphia death records have lost the images that used to be > there as well. > > Is something happening there? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2010 05:07:44
    1. Re: Famililysearch.org
    2. Dora Smith
    3. Yup, they're saying the same thing on other lists, but noone knows what is going on. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Black" <mb@zetnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.ireland To: <genire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Famililysearch.org >I looked at the familysearch.org website last night for the first time > in a long time and found that the Irish record indexes have disappeared > from their pilot site. > The Philadelphia death records have lost the images that used to be > there as well. > > Is something happening there? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    04/23/2010 05:06:35
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    04/22/2010 07:48:44
    1. Re: Merger of NAI & IMC 'into' the NLI
    2. Sean J Murphy
    3. Thanks for that update, Michael. For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the acronyms in the header, NAI stands for National Archives of Ireland, IMC for Irish Manuscripts Commission and NLI for National Library of Ireland. The consensus in our near-bankrupt nation is that the government's cost-saving repository merger plan is a bad one, even 'idiotic' as one sage opined, and it certainly contrasts with the billions being pumped into propping up wayward financial institutions. Yet having observed that the Canadians have created an amalgamated Library and Archives (LAC), I am not so sure that the Irish merger plan should be dismissed out of hand. What are the principal genealogical and heraldic issues arising? At present the NLI and the NAI display very little co-ordination in providing genealogical services, and perish the thought that they should be obliged to work more closely together and avoid wastage of resources in these straitened times. While an essential project, the NAI's insistence on undertaking the 'free' digitisation of the 1901 and 1911 Censuses at a cost of €4.6 million was, I won't say idiotic, but hard to justify, and clearly exacerbated the neglect of its core duties and resource problems (last Director's report is dated 2006). Even if one objects to the idea of commercial interests such as Ancestry.com undertaking digitisation of Irish records, as is the most common mode in Britain and America, the Mormon FamilySearch was ready and willing to proceed with truly free digitisation (I discount any alleged spiritual costs). A Freedom of Information request has revealed that the Genealogical Society of Utah informed the NAI that it was 'indexing the 1901 Census, and expect to have it completed by the end of 2007'. Why did this project, which would have cost the Irish taxpayer nothing, not proceed? Let us turn now to heraldry, an admittedly more minority interest, if one excludes the mania for spurious 'family crests' and 'clan arms'. It does appear unlikely that the NLI's old Genealogical Office/Office of the Chief Herald would be exactly replicated in a new setup, which for want of a better term I will call 'Library and Archives Ireland'. The Chief Herald's office throughly discredited itself by validating Terence MacCarthy 'Mór' and a number of other fantasists and hoaxers (http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/irhismys/maccarthy.htm). Although many are unaware of the fact or in denial, it remains the case that in the wake of the MacCarthy Mór affair it was discovered that the Chief Herald had no legal power to grant arms from 1943 until 2005 at least, and possibly even from that date until the recent suspension of grants. Yes, grants of arms to US Presidents Kennedy and Clinton and Irish Presidents Robinson and McAleese, as well as to many others, are without legal validity and would require a complex retrospective statute to be regularised, which again would not be perceived to be a pressing matter by our legislators. Following the recent retirement of the Chief Herald, the office lies with a stake through its heart, although there are some working hard to extract it and breathe life back into the corpse. Let us of course not forget the records affected by this debate. As well as frontline records such as church registers and census substitutes, the NLI holds the old archive of Ulster's Office (see my article at http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/studies/ulster.pdf). While perceived as a rather remote academic body which should have been more to the fore with digitisation, serious genealogists will not overlook the IMC's various published calendars and editions of older records. In addition again to material such as census returns, and despite the terrible loss of archives in 1922, the NAI holds a remarkable range of records, which I have endeavoured to describe in a short guide designed to supplement the repository's still rather patchy website: http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/nai/ To take just one surviving class of records, the Chief Secretary's Office Registered Papers, I have used these to track the pig-stealing father of Ned Kelly and even the villains who stole the Irish Crown Jewels from Ulster's Office (http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/irhismys/jewels.htm). These are all records whose digitisation needs to be commenced, speeded up or completed properly, but the NLI, NAI and IMC as they stand are not equal to the task. Hence the need to respond more constructively to the government's amalgamation plan and as far as possible to influence its content and the way in which it is executed. Admittedly one has little faith in the cultural depth of the present Irish administration, but I am equally appalled by some of the various interests currently hollering for more resources to be thrown at the existing costly and inefficient system of caring for our record heritage. Sean Murphy Centre for Irish Genealogical and Historical Studies http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/ > A Chairde, > > The following Parliamentary Question and Written Answer of Tuesday > 20th April 2010 may be of interest: > > (TEXT) > > National Library. > > PARLIAMENTARY QUESTION: 627. Deputy Phil Hogan (Fine Gael) asked > the Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism the cost base analysis > carried out that led to the decision to merge the National Archives > with the National Library of Ireland; the results of this analysis; > and if she will make a statement on the matter. [15333/10] > > REPLY: Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism (Deputy Mary Hanafin): > The basis on which the decision to merge the National Archives and the > Irish Manuscripts Commission into the National Library was the > consideration that more effective use of scare resources and better > value for money can be obtained by combining similar ’back office’ > administrative functions together with certain technical functions > that are currently common across the three bodies. > > (END TEXT) > > Further info. on the Oireachtas see: www.oireachtas.ie and on the > Genealogical Society of Ireland see: www.familyhistory.ie > > The Society's position on this merger proposal is outlined in the > current issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' see: > http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33747300/ > > Mise le meas, > > Michael Merrigan > General Secretary > GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF IRELAND > www.familyhistory.ie

    04/22/2010 05:30:36
    1. News extracts: April 22, 1823: Falcon of John Sinclair, of Belfast, found by John Heron, of Kelton, Scotland
    2. Alison Kilpatrick
    3. Transcribed from the 22 April 1823 edition of The Strabane Morning Post newspaper, by permission of The British Library: There was lately found on the estate of Ingleston, the property of John Heron, Esq. in the parish of Kelton, a falcon, with two brass bells attached to its neck, and a silver ring to each foot, with the inscription "John Sinclair, Esq. Belfast." It was discovered dead near a rookery, having fallen, (as it is supposed) a sacrifice to the resentment of the crows, as it had been seen a short time before engaged with a number of their dark feathered tribe, on one of which it made a truly falcon-like descent, and its antagonist instantly dropped down dead. It measured over the wings, when extended, 3-1/4 feet, was of a bluish colour on the back, and of a bluish grey on the belly.--Scotch Paper. =====================

    04/22/2010 02:51:04
    1. Merger of NAI & IMC 'into' the NLI
    2. Michael Merrigan
    3. A Chairde, The following Parliamentary Question and Written Answer of Tuesday 20th April 2010 may be of interest: (TEXT) National Library. PARLIAMENTARY QUESTION: 627. Deputy Phil Hogan (Fine Gael) asked the Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism the cost base analysis carried out that led to the decision to merge the National Archives with the National Library of Ireland; the results of this analysis; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [15333/10] REPLY: Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism (Deputy Mary Hanafin): The basis on which the decision to merge the National Archives and the Irish Manuscripts Commission into the National Library was the consideration that more effective use of scare resources and better value for money can be obtained by combining similar ’back office’ administrative functions together with certain technical functions that are currently common across the three bodies. (END TEXT) Further info. on the Oireachtas see: www.oireachtas.ie and on the Genealogical Society of Ireland see: www.familyhistory.ie The Society's position on this merger proposal is outlined in the current issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' see: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33747300/ Mise le meas, Michael Merrigan General Secretary GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF IRELAND www.familyhistory.ie

    04/21/2010 06:58:01
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - from FHLC/GRO Ireland
    2. E O'Leary
    3. Thank you Bill. But my question relates to what can be obtained by printing off a search result on the pilot BMD section at FHLC compared to getting a photocopy/certificate from the GRO in Ireland. In terms of a Dublin death registration the latter will provide details of who registered the death, which often tells you their relationship with the deceased. The former does not. From the earlier postings it looked like the writer was referring to some new service at the FHLC which could provide certificates/photocopies of certificates, not just results of the pilot BMD search. At least that's clarified. Eileen <wm.karr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:mailman.339.1271605205.20086.genire@rootsweb.com... > > > Eileen, > > > here is the address: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 > > > They have some certificates online that you can print off - no charge. > > > > Bill

    04/19/2010 03:04:57
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - from FHLC/GRO Ireland
    2. Photocopy is not a new service. However, it is little known. Mail or fax the completed request to the address indicated on the form. You may also obtain a paper copy of the document from your local family history center or local Church distribution center using item number 31768. To obtain photocopies of a few pages from a book or a few frames of microfilm or microfiche, please use the appropriate Request for Photocopies form available on this site. Copies cost U.S.$2.00 each, with a U.S.$4.00 minimum charge. Please follow the instructions found on the form. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: E O'Leary [mailto:geneeol@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 07:04 PM To: genire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Death Certificate info - from FHLC/GRO Ireland Thank you Bill. But my question relates to what can be obtained by printing off a search result on the pilot BMD section at FHLC compared to getting a photocopy/certificate from the GRO in Ireland. In terms of a Dublin death registration the latter will provide details of who registered the death, which often tells you their relationship with the deceased. The former does not. From the earlier postings it looked like the writer was referring to some new service at the FHLC which could provide certificates/photocopies of certificates, not just results of the pilot BMD search. At least that's clarified. Eileen wrote in message news:mailman.339.1271605205.20086.genire@rootsweb.com... > > > Eileen, > > > here is the address: > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 > > > They have some certificates online that you can print off - no charge. > > > > Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/18/2010 05:27:34
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - from FHLC
    2. Eileen, here is the address: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 They have some certificates online that you can print off - no charge. Bill

    04/18/2010 09:40:00
    1. Re: Excerpts from Irish newspapers
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. >From The Constitution or Cork Morning Post, 14 August 1822 - THE DUKE OF LANCASTER STEAM VESSEL. This vessel arrived at the Custom-house early Monday morning, after an expeditious and pleasant passage from Bristol, which place she left late on Saturday. Among the passengers were--Messrs. Kellett, Allen, Beamish, Kingston, Matthews, Byrne, Kenslake, Hayes, Trench, Leonard, Mr. Ashe, the celebrated performer on the Flute, and several ladies. She sailed again yesterday, and took over--Sir John de Burgos and suite, Captain Kent, Mr. Hare, &c. &c. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    04/18/2010 07:57:13
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - from FHLC
    2. Eileen O'Leary
    3. Ellen, Are you talking about the familysearch.org site? If I understand you correctly you are saying that, if you get the details of BMDs from their pilot, they can provide the same service as GRO Ireland, i.e. photocopies of BMD registrations, for a lower price. If so, could you supply a web address for this page please? Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: ellen@naliboff.com Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.ireland To: genire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:50 AM Subject: Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865 The FHLC has both the index and the certificates. You find the listing in the Index (District, Vol and page), look up the FHLC# and complete the form. You will receive a photocopy of the entire page. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: cecilia [mailto:myths@ic24.net] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 05:10 AM To: genire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:52:50 +0000, ellen@naliboff.com wrote: >The Family lHistory Library will photocopy on request the full page of ci= >vil birth, death or marriage records. The request can be filed online and= > charged ($2.00 per request with a minimum of $4.00) to your credit card = >or by snail mail with a check. >Ellen Are these pages the birth/marriage/death entries, or merely the index entries? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/18/2010 03:47:12
    1. STRUCTURED INTERNET GENEALOGY
    2. JacobSmith
    3. STRUCTURED INTERNET GENEALOGY The Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory site is educationally constructed to reflect the process used when actually doing practical genealogy and family history research. It is the generational historian's approach to the study of the history of families worldwide, establishing comprehensive evidence based family studies within and about the lines of descent from the researched ancestry. Resources are systematically composed into key information pedigree charts, each branching down from major topical data format headings, into descending sub table knowledge nodes, especially identified for specific sub subjects and sub groups, all related back to ascending ladders of hierarchical linked record references. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ ADVANCED research studies, enters through Schools - Colleges - Universities: Alumni and Genealogy Education. Includes information gathered and presented from all top global university and education systems. Every country lists university sites with rankings, ending in Zip (genealogy education), country links directories, comprehensive site information topics and Google search data, set with all options online. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/schoolscollegesuniversities.htm CLICK on the Maroon colored country name. This is a program descending information link into PROFESSIONAL primary documenting, using Ancestor Roots Information: OneSource Genealogy and Family History Searchable Databases: to make a thorough examination, evaluation and careful validation of given data from primary source records and online studies. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ancestorrootsinformationdatabases CLICK on the first listing of the country name. This is a program descending information link into Regional Genealogy and Local History Research: Local History and Genealogy Portal to the World, if you are interested in resources related to BASIC genealogy and family history research on the Internet. Recently updated and indexed, every country in the world has its own self contained module, providing the necessary access to genealogy - population Google books (an online library at your home), Wikipedia articles and portals, all of the LC - Library of Congress Portals to the World, FamilySearch resources (new and Wiki), given country demographics and ethnic peoples, with definitions, GenWeb, place details, general - indexing and language reference sites; all together in standard shorthand format, for easy free access. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/regionalgenealogy.htm Respectfully yours, V. Chris & Tom Tinney, Sr. Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] - 2004 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions]

    04/15/2010 03:56:04
    1. Re: Excerpts from Irish newspapers
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. >From The Courier (London), 28 September 1830 - A shocking murder was committed in Clare-street, Limerick, on Tuesday night. A person, named Michael Ahern, against whom there was some party grudge, was returning from the Newscastle race course, when a person came up and warned him to be away home with all speed, as there was a party on the look out for him. This caution had been scarcely uttered, when Ahern's friend was knocked down by a blow given from behind, and an attack was made on Ahern before he could offer any resistance. His forehead was fractured dreadfully, and the upper part of the head actually driven down by the repeated battering of an iron bar! When the body was found a large black circle appeared on the neck, from which it is believed strangulation was resorted to in effecting this horrible deed.--Limerick Evening Post. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    04/12/2010 07:04:34
    1. Ireland's Genealogical Gazette (April 2010)
    2. Michael Merrigan
    3. A Chairde, The April 2010 issue of 'Ireland's Genealogical Gazette' the monthly newsletter of the Genealogical Society of Ireland is available on the following link http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33747300/ Featured in this issue: + Archives Crisis or Opportunity? + Cathaoirleach Nua (New Chairperson) + The Viking Age - Ireland and the West (review) http://www.fourcourtspress.ie + Family History with Style http://www.questheritage.ie + New Director for National Library + Michael Cunniffe, RIP + James Scannell Reports +++ Hyde's 150th Anniversary +++ Abbey Theatre Actress +++ Red Faces at Britannica +++ The Emergency (1939-1946) + GSI Lecture Programme + Précis of the AGM Lecture + Membership of the Genealogical Society + Glasnevin Cemetery http://www.glasnevintrust.ie + Diary Dates + New GSI Board + Medal Society of Ireland + Demolition of Chapel Opposed For a full listing of the Society's publications and Membership Form see: http://www.familyhistory.ie Regards Michael Merrigan General Secretary Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie

    04/11/2010 10:20:23
    1. Subject: Re: Excerpts from Irish newspapers
    2. janet aileen
    3. No apology needed here Michael, I SO agree with you! Janet

    04/10/2010 02:49:12
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865
    2. The FHLC has both the index and the certificates. You find the listing in the Index (District, Vol and page), look up the FHLC# and complete the form. You will receive a photocopy of the entire page. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: cecilia [mailto:myths@ic24.net] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 05:10 AM To: genire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:52:50 +0000, ellen@naliboff.com wrote: >The Family lHistory Library will photocopy on request the full page of ci= >vil birth, death or marriage records. The request can be filed online and= > charged ($2.00 per request with a minimum of $4.00) to your credit card = >or by snail mail with a check. >Ellen Are these pages the birth/marriage/death entries, or merely the index entries? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GENIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/10/2010 10:50:18
    1. Re: Death Certificate info - Dublin 1865
    2. cecilia
    3. On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:52:50 +0000, ellen@naliboff.com wrote: >The Family lHistory Library will photocopy on request the full page of ci= >vil birth, death or marriage records. The request can be filed online and= > charged ($2.00 per request with a minimum of $4.00) to your credit card = >or by snail mail with a check. >Ellen Are these pages the birth/marriage/death entries, or merely the index entries?

    04/10/2010 03:10:18
    1. Re: HOW TO CALCULATE THE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR JULIAN DATES AS OF 1.iii.IV
    2. Steve Hayes
    3. On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:03:32 +0000 (UTC), lachman@ebony.ppc.ubc.ca wrote: > > HOW TO CALCULATE THE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR JULIAN DATES AS OF 1.iii.IV > - via Hans' E-Z Wondrous 2-Fold 3-Step 4-Function Calculator Method - If you don't want to be seen as a spammer, don't multipost. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

    04/10/2010 12:03:30
    1. How to Calculate the Day of the Week for Julian Dates as of 1.iii.IV
    2. [Note: This revision, using the 93 flag & 0=Sun, and adding further parameters to cover certain Old Style Julian dates, adds two references to make it evident the original method was created as a user-friendly alternative to Mike Keith's in 1990. Since then it wasn't extended to calculate & show Old Style dates & calendars--until now via a newly defined Doomsdate parameter. Some awkward lines have been reworded. Please post comments, if any, via Usenet or ccnet. Thanks.] HOW TO CALCULATE THE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR JULIAN DATES AS OF 1.iii.IV - via Hans' E-Z Wondrous 2-Fold 3-Step 4-Function Calculator Method - This is a less involved method to calculate the day of the week for dates on Julian calendars from 1.iii.IV and as far into the future as workable using standard four-function calculators and certain mobile phones via a generalised formula requiring fewer key-clicks than any previous method (not relying on tables). Given: Day.Month.Year as a Date on the Julian Calendar (starting with 01.march.0004 as the earliest Date to be converted); & YLJLD as the 'Year in which the Last Julian Leap Day occurred' before the given Date for a Julian Calendar whose years begin on January 1st (starting at IV A.D, so that YLJLD is a positive multiple of 4); or Y2MB as the (historical) Julian 'Year 2 Months Before' the given Date whereby YLJLD/4 = Integer(Y2MB/4); one can convert the given Date into a day of the week after completing the 3 steps below using a standard four-function calculator with less than 3 dozen key-clicks (or at most 3 dozen using RPN & algebraic ones). STEP 1. Calculate the given Date's MonthIndex: Month * 2.56 + 93 (or 94 for certain old-style dates) and then drop the fraction, and the hundreds digit, if any, e.g. 123.72 becomes 23, to get an integer less than 100. STEP 2. Apply the generalised formula for converting the Date: (YLJLD/4 + Year + MonthIndex + Day) / 7 (If one knows YLJLD, one may use that for Y2MB, which in effect is identical to applying Hans' older formula of 1990's vintage.) 2.a. Calculate YLJLD/4 Divide Y2MB by 4. If the result has a decimal portion, re- -enter just the integer portion; 2.b. Continue with the remainder of the formula STEP 3. Apply Hans' keypad mapping: Take the first digit after the decimal point (if none, use 0) and map that to a day using the following patterns: +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Fri | Sat | | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 7 | 8 | 9 | | Mon | Tue | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Wed | Thu | | | 4 | 5 | 6 | | 4 | 5 | 6 | | Wed | Thu | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Mon | Tue | | | 7 | 8 | 9 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | Fri | Sat | | +-----+-----+-----+ +-----+-----+-----+ | Sun | | 0 | | 0 | | Sun | +-----+ +-----+ (This is equivalent to assigning days to remainders of divisions by 7 as for: Sun=0 Mon=1 Tue=2 Wed=3 Thu=4 Fri=5 Sat=6.) The use of a value of IV A.D. for YLJLD in Hans' Method remains valid, even if IV A.D. was not a leap year as claimed by some historians, if it is used just for dates after February IV, whereby a value of IV A.D. for YLJLD is a boundary condition for valid conversions on later (historical) Julian dates. If IV A.D. is a leap year, Hans' Method is historically correct for Julian dates as far back as 1.iii.N by allowing, as do astronomers, a value of 0 for YLJLD as well as Julian year 'N'--the improvised Roman numeral for 0. EXAMPLE N. December 12th, 287 Y2MB = 287 12 * 2.56 + 93 = 123.72 (MonthIndex = 23) 287 / 4 = 71.75 71 + 287 + 23 + 12 Divide by 7 = 56.142857... first decimal = 1 Day of Week = Mon EXAMPLE I. October 13th, 1307 Y2MB = 1307 10 * 2.56 + 93 = 118.6 (MonthIndex = 18) 1307 / 4 = 326.75 326 + 1307 + 18 + 13 Divide by 7 = 237.714285... first decimal = 7 Day of Week = Fri EXAMPLE II. June 15th, 1215 Y2MB = 1215 6 * 2.56 + 93 = 108.36 (MonthIndex = 8) 1215 / 4 = 303.75 303 + 1215 + 8 + 15 Divide by 7 = 220.142857... first decimal = 1 Day of Week = Mon EXAMPLE III. February 8th, 1587 Y2MB = 1586 2 * 2.56 + 93 = 98.12 (MonthIndex = 98) 1586 / 4 = 396.5 396 + 1587 + 98 + 8 Divide by 7 = 298.428571... first decimal = 4 Day of Week = Wed EXAMPLE IV. January 30th, 1649 Y2MB = 1648 2.56 + 93 = 95.56 (MonthIndex = 95) 1648 / 4 = 412 (no need to re-enter) + 1649 + 95 + 30 Divide by 7 = 312.285714... first decimal = 2 Day of Week = Tue MODIFICATION FOR YEARS BEGINNING AFTER 1.i With just one modification, Hans' method is adaptable to Old Style dates too, such that it still is easy to do with a standard calculator, if not mentally. Because Julian & Old Style years overlap, Lag is zero from March 25th till December 31st; afterwards, Lag is +1 till the end of the Old Style year on March 24th for the common English usage of 'Old Style' as below. Including this lag into Step 1 replaces the Julian flag of 93 by 94. Y2MB remains defined in terms of the historical (Julian) calendar. (For the usage of 'Old Style' applicable to Anglo-Saxon times, include a lag of -1 after Step 1 is completed--an exercise left to the Reader.) EXAMPLE V. March 15th, 1751 Y2MB = 1752 3 * 2.56 + 94 = 101.68 (MonthIndex = 1) 1752 / 4 = 438 (no need to re-enter) + 1751 + 1 + 15 Divide by 7 = 315. first decimal = 0 Day of Week = Sun EXAMPLE VI. March 28th, 1752 Y2MB = 1752 3 * 2.56 + 93 = 100.68 (MonthIndex = 0) 1752 / 4 = 438 (no need to re-enter) + 1752 (+ 0) + 28 Divide by 7 = 316.857142... first decimal = 8 Day of Week = Sat EXAMPLE VII. February 8th, 1586 Y2MB = 1586 2 * 2.56 + 94 = 99.12 (MonthIndex = 99) 1586 / 4 = 396.5 396 + 1586 + 99 + 8 Divide by 7 = 298.428571... first decimal = 4 Day of Week = Wed EXAMPLE IIX. January 30th, 1648 Y2MB = 1648 2.56 + 94 = 96.56 (MonthIndex = 96) 1648 / 4 = 412 (no need to re-enter) + 1648 + 96 + 30 Divide by 7 = 312.285714... first decimal = 2 Day of Week = Tue (the day Charles I met his doom) And just when you thought that all's well, there lurks... AN OLD STYLE DOOMSDAY SLIDING CALENDAR a..mJ.o..aJ.sD.jF.mN.a..mJ.o..aJ.sD.jF u..aA.c..pU.eE.uE.aO.u..aA.c..pU.eE.uE g..yN.t..rL.pC.nB.rV.g..yN.t..rL.pC.nB su mo tu we th fr sa ......................1..2..3..4..5..6 .1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9.10.11.12.13 .8..9.10.11.12.13.14.15.16.17.18.19.20 15.16.17.18.19.20.21.22.23.24.25.26.27 22.23.24.25.26.27.28.29.30.31 29.30.31 This table will give calendars that are the same as for mar-dec of the historical Year, and for the following jan & feb of the Old Style year. Each Month is displayed vertically in its own column, usually in lower case, or in pairs, in which case the later month will be ALL CAPS. The column of dates underneath are those of all corresponding "Doomsdates"- -defined as all dates for which MonthIndex + Day is divisible by 7. Thus, all Old Style January 30ths are a Doomsdate. "Doomsday" is defined as the weekday on which Doomsdates occur in said twelve-month span. Because MonthIndex + Day is divisible by 7, one may simplify Step 2 by omitting both terms from that calculation, and so find the Doomsday, as in Step A below. This Doomsday is used in Steps B & C to display calendars just by sliding the row of weekdays--by adding or deleting spaces to the left of 'su'. Copy & paste the table into a text-editor with a monospaced font, e.g. Courier, and do as follows: A. Calculate Doomsday: For the given Year in the Old Style calendar, calculate the weekday of its Doomsdates using (YLJLD/4 + Year) / 7, and then applying Step 3's keypad mapping. B. Display the calendar for March & November: Slide the row of weekdays so that the weekday of Doomsday rests over 28 to show the calendar for the March that begins the Year with Lady Day. One has as well the calendar for the following November. C. Display calendars for the other 10 months: for any month other than March or the following November: slide the row of weekdays to put Doomsday under the month to be displayed. D. Display calendars for months in Century 21: if you're patient and can wait until 1.iii.MMC, the foregoing will also work for the remainder of that Century in the Gregorian calendar. (Why?) Q. How would you modify Step A for any earlier Gregorian Century? (There's more than one right answer.) -- REFERENCES: http://oz.ccnet.us/dayofweek/ http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/zel-like.htm#Keith http://www.angelfire.com/my/zelime/calendarslide.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_rule#Overview_of_all_Doomsdays

    04/09/2010 09:35:20
    1. Re: Excerpts from Irish newspapers
    2. Dennis Ahern
    3. >From The Irish Times, 20 September 1890 -- EVICTIONS ON THE GLENSHARROLD ESTATE Limerick, Friday The evictions on the Glensharrold estate were resumed this morning at an early hour, when four more tenants were put out of their holdings by the Sub-sheriff, Mr. Frederick Hobson, and emergency bailiffs. The tenats evicted to-day were John Ahern, holding twenty acres, and owing five years' rent ; Catherine Connell, widow, and her two sons, John and Patrick Connell, joint-tenants of 153 acres, mainly mountain land, at a yearly rent of £38. The Connells owe 6 years' rent. The sheriff was accompanied by a force of 50 police under the command of District-Inspectors Lawless, Harrison, and Smith, of Cork ; but there were few people present, and no disturbance of any kind occurred. Possession was given over by the sheriff to the receiver over the estate, Mr. E. H. P. Hosford, who attended for the purpose, and who was able to return to Limerick by the mid-day train. All the principal tenants on the estate have now been evicted from their holdings. The twelve tenants still in occupation were served a few days since with ejectment notices. They are the holders of but small plots. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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