THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 6, 1824 HEAD OFFICE OF POLICE - Informations were sworn on Thursday, at the above office, to the effect that Mr. Milliken, of Grafton-street, had met Mr. Thos. Sheehan, of the Dublin Evening Mail, on that day, on one of the Quays, and had some angry words with him respecting a publication which appeared in The Dublin Evening Mail, which he, (Mr. Milliken) supposed might have been intended to apply to him. It was further stated, that, in consequence of those angry expressions, Mr. Thomas Sheehan drew forth a pistol, and said that he would defend himself at any hazard. Informant stated, that under these circumstances it was to be apprehended, if the parties were not bound over to keep the peace, that a duel would be the consequence, whereby the life of one or possibly the lives of both, might be lost. Mr. Farrell, Chief Peace Officer, in consequence took the parties into custody, and brought them before the Magistrates of the above office, when they were each bound over to keep the peace, themselves in the sum of one thousand pounds each, and two sureties, each in the sum of two hundred pounds. The sureties for Mr. Milliken are Messrs. Moore and Forest, of Grafton-street - those for Mr. Sheahan are Messrs. Glynn and Hoare, of the Dublin Evening Mail. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 6, 1824 PROVINCIAL NEWS LIMERICK, SEPT 1. - Mr. Nimmo is engaged this week in projecting a road between the intended New Bridge in this City and Ennis. A Police Magistrate will be stationed at Tomgrany, County Clare. We understand that Major Warburton's brother is the Gentleman selected. The Bridge Commissioners, yesterday, received a letter from Mr. Secretary Gregory, acknowledging their invitation to the Lord Lieutenant to lay the first stone of the building, but his Excellency has not yet fixed any period for this visit. Shehan, the informer against the murderers of Mr. Crofts, and who escaped from the Police at Doneraile, died at Naddanulla, in the Brogga mountains, on the 12th ult. Thomas Spring Rice, Esq. M.P. left Limerick on Thursday for London, in consequence of the sudden and alarming illness of Lady Theodosia Rice. LIMERICK, SEPT. 4. - At the Court of Petty Sessions on Wednesday, Mr. Brady, on the part of the Agricultural Society of this County, brought forward charges against different defaulters, for non-payment of money, lent them for the encouragement of industry. Warrants were issued against them. Fever is alarmingly on the increase in Limerick. Thursday, twelve persons were admitted, and the number in fever on Wednesday evening was 107. Yesterday evening five cars arrived here from Dunmore, laden with the apparatus for raising and depressing the diving bell. Yesterday a drunken fellow, living in one of the lanes of the Irishtown, on his return home from a mid day debauch, beat his son, who remonstrated with him on the impropriety of his conduct, with a heavy stick to such a degree, that it is feared his skull is fractured. The monster also knocked him down and literally danced on him! Yesterday, sixteen young boys on their way from the Foundling Hospital, James's-street, Dublin, to Shannon-grove, passed through this City. Thursday, Mr. Daxon's Giles and Mr. Kirwan's Hohenlobe, arrived in this City, preparatory to the ensuing Races; they are to remain a short time at Ballinaguard. It is expected that there will be a greater number of first rate horses this season than for the last five or six years. The high respectability of the Stewards will, we are confident, endure the utmost regularity and order during the week. DOGS - Thursday, a dog belonging to a man who usually takes his stand near the Skie & Hide Crane, West Water-gate, bit the horse of a carman severely. The carman states, that it is customary with the owners of this dog to set him at horses. Monday or Tuesday, a large dog in the island, bit a young girl named Margaret Lee; the wound at first seemed inclined to heal but has since begun to fester. These dogs ought, in the first instance, to be killed, and their owners fined the full penalty under the Road Act. Last week, a son of Mr. Lucas, Apothecary, Cork, while labouring under typhus fever, escaped the vigilance of his attendants, and in a moment of delirium, threw himself out of an upper window and was killed on the spot. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

GKM <gkmcauliff@cox.net> wrote: : Can anyone look at birth records from 1925-1935 in what is now the Republic? : How abour records from what is now Northern Ireland, are such records for : 1900-1922 available in what is now the Republic? http://www.genfindit.com/ibirths.htm LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil birth records http://www.groireland.ie/ General Register Office (Republic of Ireland) Births, Marriages and Deaths for 32 counties 1864-1922 Republic of Ireland only 1922-present http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm General Register Office (Northern Ireland) Births and Deaths for 6 counties of NI since 1864 Marriages for Northern Ireland since 1922

From The Cork Examiner, 16 September 1878 - NOTES ON GLENGARIFF AND KILLARNEY.--A London publisher (R. J. Bush, Charing Cross) has issued a volume designed to act as a guide to these interesting localities, and to enlarge especially on the beauty and health-giving qualities of Glengariff. To people in the South of Ireland it is scarce necessary to enlarge on the beauty of the Lakes, or of that bay which assuredly may be reckoned amongst the very choicest spots that could be selected as examples of the loveliness of earth. Glengariff has rivals but scarcely a superior. What, however, is not perhaps so generally known is that Glengariff is a perfect sanatorium, and a most valuable as well as interesting resort for invalids. The volume before us produces a most extraordinary accumulation of high medical testimony to this effect. Not the least attractive feature of this delightful spot is that of late years its hotel accommodation has been wonderfully improved, and that in this respect it now stands not inferior to Switzerland and the Highlands. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> wrote in message news:df6t49$7uc$3@pcls4.std.com... > http://www.genfindit.com/ibirths.htm > LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil birth records Dennis: Is there a corresponding one for England, or for England and Wales? Evidently the "i" at the beginning of "ibirths" refers to Ireland. Might there be different letters corresponding English or England and Wales? Your help is greatly appreciated. GKM

I've been researching my family history, primarily with the purpose of registering as an irish foreign birth and obtaining citizenship. I even went to dublin to dig up records in joyce house, what fun! The two weeks i spent in ireland were far too short. However, there are some holes in the foreign birth record requirements that i'm having a hard time filling. My grandmother's (the one who i claim descent through) death record incorrectly indicates her birthplace as Chicago Illinios--i assume the coroner just filled in the city of residence. I am also having a hard time uncovering the marriage record of my grandparents. It is of course possible that they never actually married. While it seems to me that none of this should affect the ultimate question of genealogy, the foreign birth record application seems quite exacting. So the question i put to the group is, should i submit what seems "sufficient evidence" or should i keep digging? Or am i in a bad situation for acquiring citizenship? david hanley

Can anyone look at birth records from 1925-1935 in what is now the Republic? How abour records from what is now Northern Ireland, are such records for 1900-1922 available in what is now the Republic? GKM

From The Cork Examiner, 7 February 1865 - CORK HARBOUR--SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. -------- February 6th, 1864. ARRIVED--Estelle, Coyle, St. Paul de Loandes, palm oil ; Uncle Joe, Nickels, Callao, guano ; Bobsin Kargsdorff, Moeller, Odessa, maize ; Conrad, Jorgensen, Monte Video, boneash ; Josich, Baccarich, Sulina, maize ; R. Robinson, Long, Callao, guano ; Mariner, White, St. John's, deals ; Onward, Herbert, Unity (colliers) ; Edmond Ironsides s.s., from Glo'ster, general. SAILED--Nil. (By Magnetic Telegraph.) February 7th, 1864--Wind calm. ARRIVED--Joulia, from New York ; Mary Dundas, St. John's. SAILED--Sebastian Cabot, for Liverpool, in tow of a Liverpool tug. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 20, 1850 MEETING OF GUARDIANS BALLINA UNION - The usual weekly meeting of the Guardians of this Union was held in the Boardroom on Saturday, Colonel Knox Gore in the chair. The other Guardians present were Capt. Atkinson, Mr. Pratt, Mr. Crofton, Mr. Gore, Mr. Howley, Mr. A. Knox, Mr. G. Orme, Mr. E. Orme, Mr. Jones, Mr. Gardiner, Mr. Walsh, Mr. Malley, and Mr. Strogen, Richard Burke, Esq., Assistant Commissioner, and Captain Hamilton, Inspector, were also present. The Clark having read the minutes of the proceedings of the last day of meeting and several communications from the Poor Law Commissioners of no public importance, Mr. Burke laid before the Guardians the substance of the investigation founded upon the charges brought against the master by the Rev. Richard St. George in the case of Anne Nealee, of Crossmolina. Mr. Burke only noticed that particularly that portion of the investigation in which it appeared that the Master had gone beyond his duty. Anne Nealee (he said) was in charge of a ward on the 5th of January last, when she appropriated a blanket, the property of the Union. For this offence the Master got her placed in the black hole, where he caused her to remain five hours with insufficiency of clothes and in extremely severe weather. The duty of the Master was to take down her name and report the circumstance to the Board and that he could confine only in cases of repeated refractory conduct. The conduct of the Mas! ter in this case he (Mr. Burke) attributed to ignorance of the order, as also the approval of the punishment by the Chairman. He found nothing in the evidence to prove that any partiality or sectarian motives influenced the Master, especially as it appeared that this woman, who was a Protestant, was so far confided in as to be appointed a Wardswoman. He (Mr. Burke) was confident the Board was most anxious for religious harmony, and it was his opinion they should deal with the matter as lightly as possible, and merely reprimand the master for having exceeded his duty. In reply to a question from the Rev. Mr. St. George, Mr. Burke said that it did not at all appear that he (Mr. St. George) brought forward the mater in a sectarian spirit. The Master was afterwards called before the Board and the Chairman explained to him how he had exceeded his duty; but at the same time he had the pleasure to state to him that Mr. Burke and all the Guardians, from what they heard, were satisfied that he had acted through ignorance and not from any religious or sectarian motives. He (the Chairman) had sanctioned the punishment through ignorance of the Commissioners' order on that subject, and, moreover, as there appeared at that time to be much insubordination in the house. Tenders from Valuators were then opened. The following are the names and the sums proposed:- Messrs. O'Donaghoe and Cunningham, 90l. The same with maps, £180. Mr. John Cunningham £120. Mr. Mark M'Garry £85, same with maps, £110. Mr. Henry Joynt £100. Mr. John Henderson, £100, and Mr. J.G. Barrett, 100 guineas. Mr. Pratt moved that Mr. Joynt's tender be accepted, which was seconded by Mr. Annesley Knox. Mr. Crofton proposed, and Captain Atkinson seconded, the appointment of Mr. Henderson, and Mr. Cunningham was proposed by Mr. Walsh, and seconded by Mr. Quigley. The votes for each were as following:- For Mr. Joynt - Mr. Gardiner, Mr. E. Orme, Mr. Cawley, Mr. Gallagher, of Keeleen, Mr. Carolin, Mr. Joynt, Mr. John Knox, Mr. G. Orme, Mr. Strogen, Mr. A. Knox, Mr. J. Gore, Mr. Paget, Mr. Pratt. For Mr. Cunningham - Mr. Quinn, Mr. Kelly, Mr. Gallagher of Crossmolina, Mr. Foster, Mr. Quigley, Mr. Farrel, Mr. Howley, Mr. Walsh. For Mr. Henderson - Mr. Jackson, Mr. Jones, Mr. Crofton, Captain Atkinson. Mr. Henderson having the fewest votes, Mr. Jackson and Captain Atkinson voted for Mr. Joynt, and Mr. Crofton for Mr. Cunningham. Mr. Joynt's tender was then accepted. Mr. Gallagher's notice of motion to have the registry of children named Goodwin changed being brought forward, Mr. Burke said that the chief point at issue was what religion the mother wished them to be. The Rev. Mr. Moore and Mr. St. George were present, as were also the Revs. Messrs. Madden, Eagan and Malone. Col. Gore stated that the evidence upon which, on that day fortnight, the Board decided the the children should be registered as Protestants, when, Widow O'Donnell was examined by Mr. Burke - She lives in Ardnaree; knows Mrs. Ormsby the mother of the children, since she came to lodge with her; Mrs. Ormsby lodged with her for the last six months; left her for a few weeks ago; she used to go to chapel every Sunday. To Mr. Moore - Mr. Madden sent for me to come here. To Mr. Burke - Witness has no trade except doing a little needle work; lives near the police barrack in her own house; used to let lodgings, but has no lodgers now. To Mr. Burke - Witness saw the children go to mass generally; can't say if they went on holidays and Christmas day. To Mr. Paget - The mother used to go to mass by herself, but the children generally accompanied witness there. Mr. Moore then read the following letter: - 14 March 1850 To Captain Strogen, SIR - I have to return you my sincere thanks for the trouble you and the Rev. Mr. Moore has taken about my unfortunate children. I understand that the Roman Catholic Priest is exerting his influence to have them registered Roman Catholics, contrary to their late father's wish and mine, which was to have them reared as Protestants, and I hope the Guardians will do so. If I find that I can support them and myself by my service in England I will not leave them a burden on the Union. I am, sir, your grateful and obedient servant. SARAH ORMSBY Mr. Samuel Strogen then stated that he saw Sarah Ormsby write and believed the signature to the letter to be in her writing. He also stated that before she went away she came to his house to tell him she was going to try and do something for herself, but that she was not able to support her children, and that they must go into the Poorhouse, and expressly said that she wished them to be registered as Protestants. Mr. Moore said that he looked over the registry of baptisms in the parish church and found in it the name of Rebecca Ann Goodwin, daughter of Sarah Ormsby. The entry was made by the late Rev. Mr. Kinkead, and being a remarkable name it must evidently be that of one of the children. Mr. Madden then got in the children, and one of their aunts, about 14 years of age, whom he wished to be examined. Mr. Moore said that was not the aunt who was examined the last day, whom he would have there had he thought it necessary. The aunt being then questioned said that she lived some time with Sarah Ormsby in Ardnaree, and that she saw her at Chapel on Sundays and Christmas and other holidays. Mr. Madden asked leave to examine the children, whom he had all the time by his side, but Mr. Burke objected to his as they were too young. Mr. Madden then said he could prove them to be Catholics, and made one of them bless herself after the form of the Catholic church. Mr. Burke and several of the guardians expressed their disapprobation of such conduct, as the circumstance of going through the form of any church could not be admissable evidence. Mr. Strogen said he would go to Sligo where the mother lived and take her signature, and then be able to swear to it. Mr. Madden asked Mr. Strogen how it was that the former day he said the mother was in England and now to say she was in Sligo. Mr. Strogen denied having said she was in England. Mr. Madden. - I have only the authority of the public papers that you stated she was in England. Mr. Paget Strogen told Mr. Madden that it was not so stated in the papers. [ In this Mr. Strogen was perfectly correct.] It was then agreed, upon the suggestion of Mr. Burke, to have a warrant issued for the apprehension of Sarah Ormsby, and the following resolution was adopted: - "Resolved - That with reference to the cases of two illegitimate children named Goodwin, relative to whose registry as to religious denomination a difficulty has been experienced by the Board, it is ordered that a warrant be issued against the mother of the children, it having been stated that she is now in the county of Sligo. The Board has spent much time in hearing secondary evidence on the subject, but as it now appears that this mother's evidence can be obtained, the Board considers it most important that she should be examined to enable them to arrive at a correct judgment of the case." Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Cheryl Fenn wrote: > where is everyone???? List has stopped. > > Ireland. BTW are you any relation to Sinn ?

where is everyone???? List has stopped.

Wow - glad someone else is having problems - thought it was just me. Our server was down for a few days, so I thought it was just as a result of that. M in Ottawa, Canada "Cheryl Fenn" <paul@wn.com.au> wrote in message news:431417d7$1@quokka.wn.com.au... > where is everyone???? List has stopped. >

From The Cork Examiner, 4 September 1878 - CONCERT AT ST. ANNE'S HILL, BLARNEY. ---------- YESTERDAY afternoon a concert was given at St. Anne's Hill, Blarney, in aid of the free baths attached to the hydrephatic establishment of Mr. Barter. Many of the performers were amateurs, but they were assisted by Madame Chever of London, and Mr. Michael Quarry an accomplished pianist. The programme was carefully selected and the audience were very much pleased with the performance. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"Jo Kester" <Jo.Kester@comcast.net> wrote: : In accessing the new Castle Garden website www.CastleGarden.org : I found a James Redmond from Ireland with the same birth year as my : grandfather and of course, the same name. : This immigrant had sailed from Glasgow & Larne to NY. : A question for you Ireland and Scotland geography buffs: : Would a resident of Dublin, Ireland area have traveled to this port to sail : to America? : What would be the distance and mode of transportation ca1875-1885? It's less distance to take the train to Larne and board a ship originating in Glasgow than to take a train to Queenstown and board a ship that originated in Liverpool. What makes you so certain he was resident in Dublin at the time of emigration? He could have gone North to find employment in Belfast and decided at some point to try his luck in America. Look for the actual passenger manifest and see if the boat also picked up passengers in Dublin on the way. You should also look for him in the 1900 census, if he was alive then, and see what year it says he came to the U.S. and whether he was naturalized. If he was naturalized, the record may include his date and port of arrival, though if he was naturalized in New York it may not have that much detail. -dja

In accessing the new Castle Garden website www.CastleGarden.org I found a James Redmond from Ireland with the same birth year as my grandfather and of course, the same name. This immigrant had sailed from Glasgow & Larne to NY. A question for you Ireland and Scotland geography buffs: Would a resident of Dublin, Ireland area have traveled to this port to sail to America? What would be the distance and mode of transportation ca1875-1885? Thanks! Jo jo.kester@comcast.net

From The Cork Examiner, 21 October 1878 - FATAL ACCIDENT. A sad accident occurred this morning at Trough Castle, County Clare, by which a farmer named Bernard, lost his life. It would appear that this morning before daylight made its appearance Bernard left his house for the purpose of bringing a load of corn to Limerick for sale. He had hold of the horse by the bridle, and as he was passing Trough Castle the horse shied at something on the road and dashed off at great speed. Bernard was struck on the neck by the shaft of the car, and he was knocked under one of the wheels which rolled over him, crushing his body so terribly that he died in a few minutes. The deceased was, we are informed, brother to the young man who fell off a load of turf some months since, and was killed. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I would like to hear from descendants of or anyone who knew: John W McCloskey who was aged 50 and lived at 19-WD St Louis in the 1910 census. Patrick J Regan who was aged 47 and lived at 16-WD St Louis in the 1910 census. Also Frank Mc Closkey [brother of John W] Colm Hasson --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com

From The Freeman's Journal, 28 March 1923 - INCENDIARIES FOILED. Burton Hall, Foxrock, the country residence of Senator H. S. Guinness, was maliciously set on fire on Saturday night. The attempt proved a failure. The fire did not take effect, and little damage resulted. A band of men broke into the mansion, laid a mine in the basement, sprinkled the upper part of the house with petrol and set it alight. After applying a match to the fuse of the land mine the raiders beat a hurried retreat. They had not departed long when a party of C.I.D. from Oriel House arrived. Their timely arrival saved the building. The fire, which was just getting a grip on the interior of the mansion, was speedily extinguished. MINE FAILS TO EXPLODE. The land mine was discovered unexploded, with a portion of the fuse burned. Scarcely any damage was done by the fire. The only part to receive any injury was the stairway. For some time past Senator Guinness has not resided at Burton Hall. The furniture and other valuables were recently removed from the mansion in anticipation of an attack. Burton Hall contained one of the finest collections of books in Ireland, including priceless old manuscripts and Irish pamphlets of the Restoration period, copies of which are only to be found in the great Universities of Bodleian, Trinity, and the Royal Irish Academy. A few years ago his collection had attained such proportions, and he had such a large number of duplicates of famous works that he sent many across to Sotheby's rooms in London, where they were sold at high prices. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Steven Smyrl <smyrl@indigo.ie> wrote: : The postal codes in Dublin are actually zones, which cover very large areas. : There is nothing in the Republic of Ireland that is equivalent to a post : code as understood in Canada or the UK for instance. I wouldn't believe for : one moment what An Post (the Irish Post Office) has to say about this issue. : They would have using the pony express if they could. The sooner that : Ireland subscribes to postal codes the sooner post will arrive at its : destination. My experience with An Post has always been good. I was coming to Dublin back in '93 to research parish records at the National Library. Back then you needed a letter of permission from the local parish priest or the bishop of the diocese to look at any of the records. I had written to the Bishop of Cloyne ahead of time and asked that the letter be sent to my attention to the hostel where I would be staying in Dublin. It was not there when I arrived and I discovered upon telephoning the Bishop's office that it had been sent to my address in the states. They sent a second letter to me that day from Cork and I got it the next day in Dublin. This was not special delivery and it certainly wasn't pony express, but I doubt I could have gotten it as quickly mailed from one town to another within Massachusetts. As for the use of postal codes, I hope An Post never follows the example of the postal authority in Northern Ireland which several years ago mandated that all townland names must be replaced by postal codes. It's taken years of protest from genealogists and historians campaigning to undo that mistake and I'm not sure if they have succeeded yet. -dja

Does anyone know if there's an index to SPANISH KNIGHTS OF IRISH ORIGIN by Micheline Walsh? Or does anyone have access to the four volumes and can tell me which MURPHY/MORPHYs are listed. I've traced my Juan MURPHY/MORPHY who was a Knight, but I did it through other sources. Now I'm wondering if there were other MURPHY/MORPHYs who were also knighted and I missed them. Many thanks for any help/suggestions, Jan Dean in Mississippi