Transcribed from the 7 February 1848 issue of The Armagh Guardian newspaper, by permission of The British Library: Transmission of Convicts from Dublin.--Late on Friday evening, 120 convicts (from all parts of Ireland), the majority of these unhappy creatures having been sentenced at the special commission, and who had been transmitted from the country to the Smithfield and Kilmainham prison, were embarked at the North Wall, on board the 'Isle of Bute' steamer under an escort of Lancers and Dragoons. The steamer brought the convicts to Kingstown, where they were put on board the 'Bangalore' transport vessel, which has been lying in harbour for some time past. Amongst the prisoners was Frewen, sentenced to transportation for life for having harboured Wm. Ryan (Puck) in the county Limerick. Frewen is a tall, athletic man, of good countenance. He looked very dejected. The 'Bangalore' is destined for Bermuda, and on her arrival there the convicts will be transmitted to the penal colonies. ========================================================== Alison Causton Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia

From The Cork Examiner, 28 May 1864 - MARRIAGES. May 23, at Rathgar Catholic Church, by the Rev. J. Clarke, Mr. William Boland, to Sarah, second daughter of James Christie, Esq. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Has anyone tried the Family Tree Makers CD "Irish History and Genealogy: Source Records 1500s - 1800s"? I'm specifically looking to follow one line back from Bandon in Cork around 1820, and a couple of others around the same time, but have little information other than birthdates and that the persons recorded their birthplace as being in Ireland. -- Budgie NB Reply to newsgroup. Email address will get you nowhere.

The Ireland Genealogy Projects County Armagh website has been updated. The following townland pages have either been added or updated: Annagghmare, Annaghgad, Ballynacarry, Cappagh, Carran, Carrickmone, Cloghoge, Clonalig, Corliss, Cornahave, Creenkill, Creevekeeran, Creggan Bane Glebe, Cregganduff, Cullaville, Ummeracam Johnston, Crossmaglen, Drumbally, Loughross, Claranagh, Clarbane, Cullyhanna Big & Little, Dorsy, Drumboy, Drumlougher, Drumgose, Drummuck, Drummuckavall, Freeduff, Glasdrummanaghy, Lisamry, Liscalgat, Lissaraw, Monaguillagh, Monog, Moybane, Rathkeelan, Sheetrim, Sheiland, Teer, Teer Island, Tullyard, Tullynavall, Ummeracam North & South, Urcher, Ballynaclosha, Carnally, Coolderry, Cornoonagh, Glasdrumman, Legmoylin, Lurgancullenboy, Mounthill, Tullydonnell Gage & O'Callaghan, Cullyhanna Town. A webpage for the civil parish of Creggan has been added with links, resources and townlands. The Resource section, Links section and Records section also have been updated. You can check out the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ If you have comments, additions, links and or surname/townland requests, write me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

If here is anyone with this CD, I would also be interested as my family just suddenly shows up in Dublin in 1850. I know they were in Ireland as early as 1834 as that is when my gr. gr. grandfather was born. I can give you some info as to his father's name and occupation but I do not know mother's name. No amount of searching has found a family that would fit. My gr. gr. gr. grandfather's occupation was cabinet maker by 1850 so he would be in the building or woodworking business of some kind. I do not even know if my gr. gr. grandfather had any siblings. The family was Anglican if that makes a difference. The surname is DUFF and so far, was even DUFF in 1834 and 1850 so they have not changed their surnames. Sue in Florida macduff@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: Budgie [mailto:pju@hotpop.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:36 PM To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Irish Ancestors Has anyone tried the Family Tree Makers CD "Irish History and Genealogy: Source Records 1500s - 1800s"? -- Budgie

Hi Rob, Kilgefin and Cloonfinlough are the names of Civil Parishes. A map showing location of civil parishes can be found at the "Irish Times" website, www.ireland.com, go to the Ancestors page & follow link. Tuam and Cloonfree are Townland names. For a map showing townlands go to www.map-ireland.com/route/. Unfortunately while this map shows townlands, its not indexed by townland, only by names of large towns. So take the "go to location" option, and enter the name of the nearest large town, in this case Strokestown, you will get a map showing Cloonfree about 2km W of Strokestown. Pan south and you will find Tuam, c. 7km S. Hope you find this useful. John <rstieglitz@msn.com> wrote in message news:1125977501.534248.68920@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Not being able to find a map that can give me this information, would > someone tell me the distance between these two townlands in Roscommon. > > Thanks, > > Rob >

John, Thanks so much! This is just what I wanted! Rob

Not being able to find a map that can give me this information, would someone tell me the distance between these two townlands in Roscommon. Thanks, Rob

From The Cork Examiner, 13 September 1878 - HOSPITAL FAIR.--This celebrated horse and cattle fair was held Monday, and was very fairly attended by buyers and sellers. There was a large supply of horses, though they were not a very good quality and were generally confined to farm horses. The following are some of the most important sales effected:--Mr. James Clifford, Kilbreedy, sold a three-year-old colt to an English dealer for £55 ; Mr. P. Darcy, Ballingarry, sold a useful looking four-year old for 65 guineas ; Mr. T. O'Brien, of Limerick, purchased four carriage horses at an average of £70 ; Messrs. Murphy, Dublin, bought eight horses at various prices ; Mr. Starkey, Limerick, bought three colts at £55, £65, and £80 each, from a farmer in the vicinity of Hospital ; Mr. Smith, Kilmallock, sold a carriage horse for £40, and a useful mare at £35 ; Mr. Cleary, Herbertstown, refused £65 for a four-year-old colt ; Mr. Mulqueen, of Cartown, sold a hunter to an English dealer for £59 ; Mr. Sampson, Ballingarry, paid £55 for a four year old mare. Other large sales were effected, and many English and home buyers were in attendance. In the cattle department, several important sales were effected, and calves rated at a good price, some fetching £6 Messrs. Coll and Keyes, V.S., attended the fair professionally, and their services were constantly in requisition during the day. --Correspondent. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, March 20, 1850 ASSIZES INTELLIGENCE KING'S COUNTY, Tullamore, March 12. The trial of John Keys, for the wilful murder of Police constable Gleeson, at Killoughey, concluded last evening at five o'clock; and the jury having retired, it was shortly afterwards announced to the Court that there was not any chance of their agreeing. The Crown, in this case, exercised the right of desiring certain parties who were called on the jury panel to "stand by;" but it was admitted by every person that the right was not capriciously exercised, and the objections to those who were set aside had not any reference to the religion of the parties. The prisoner had the right of challenging twenty, and it was fully availed of, seventeen gentlemen having been peremptorily challenged before a single juror was sworn. At nine o'clock there was not the slightest chance of the jury agreeing, and they were consequently locked up for the night. This morning, the jury still being unable to agree, the Lord Chief Justice declared his intention of not discharging them until the latter part of the day.- They were still locked up when the post was leaving. In the case of the prisoner who were tried for the savage attack on Thomas Dunn, at Rathure, in this county, the jury found Mulrooney, Kelly, and Casey, guilty, and acquitted Nowlan. His Lordship sentenced the three first to transportation for life. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 13, 1824 Lessee John Burke } TO be Let, for the Month, a. } subject to redemption, the Ejector. } Lands of CHURCHPARK, as ____________________} lately held by Walter Lambert, Esq. in the Barony of Tyaquin, and County of Galway; also, the part of KNOCKBRACK, containing about 100 acres of good Sheep Walk. Proposals to Michael Dowdall, Esq. Tyaquin, Monivae. John W. Browne, Esq. Plaintiff's Solicitor. September 9, 1824 TO BE LET Pending the Minority of three years, from first November next, In the whole or in separate Divisions, THE DEMESNE OF KELLYSGROVE, With the Adjoining Lands. Of superior quality as a Sheep-Walk, highly sheltered, well sub-divided, and situate within one mile of the Fair Green of Ballinasloe. No preference, except to the fairest bidder. Proposals in writing only post-paid, will be received by Mrs. Kelly, at Kellysgrove, or Major Cruise, at Ballinasloe. The tenant or tenants will be declared on Saturday, 9th October next. September 13, 1824. WANTED, £300 UPON a Mortgage of Lands and Premises, situate in the County of the Town of Galway, held by Lease of Lives renewable for ever, and of Houses held for a term of 99 years, situate in the Town of Galway. - These Properties yield of considerable Profit Rent. - Application to be made to Mr. Robert Power, Dominick-street, Galway. September 9, 1824 CATHOLIC RENT There is a very extensive parish about the New Quay, in which the people are all comparatively wealthy. The spiritual care of a large congregation is entrusted to the Rev. Mr. Geoghegan, a Clergyman of exemplary character; but, who, we do not find, has done any thing as yet to forward the "Catholic Rent" in his district. If we looked through the entire Kingdom, we could scarcely discover another parish which exhibits the working of the system more glaringly than that to which we allude. It pays an immense revenue in Tithes, and discharges every demand for building Churches and Glebes, at the same time that there does not live within the entire parish a Protestant but ONE!- that three is not a single Protestant Church or Glebe-house in it - and that the Parson, the Rev. Mr. Cassidy, lives in France- some thousand miles from the place where he ought to reside. Now, if this is not monstrous and well-calculated to make people run mad, why we cannot tell what is. And yet, with all this just under their eyes, do these people keep back, and suffer places of less suffering to go before them. We expect that our hint will be taken, and that we shall not be obliged to repeat it. We entreat of the Reverend Clergyman (as we shall of some others too) to explain to his flock the nature of the Rent measure - the people have energy and inclination - they only require to be reminded of their sufferings. MISCHIEVOUS DEPRAVITY We are informed that during Mr. Kean's stay in Galway for the last week, some unknown villain or villains, for purposes which no one can divine, cut and destroyed the panels of his carriage. Any thing more wicked, more unjustifiable, or outrageous, we have never heard; - a Gentleman of acknowledged talents - mild and affable demeanour - unconnected with the place - a stranger too, to be that wantonly insulted, without any viable cause on earth, appears to us the very achme of villainy, and leaves little doubt upon our mind but that the perpetrator will mount still higher in crime until the law may interfere and cut short his wicked career. Several highly respectable Gentlemen have proposed setting a subscription on foot for the discovery of the persons concerned in this treacherous piece of mischief; and we have little doubt that their object will be fully achieved. We call upon the authorities to use their vigilance on this occasion. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Hello: On the off-chance, I sent away to the ONS, Southport, England, for a Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for one Margaret BURKE. That is the name of our great-great-grandmother. In the 1861 census, she said that she was born in 1823 in County Kerry. When I found an index entry in the Regimental Births index, 1761-1924, for a Margaret Burke born in 1824 in County Cork, I thought it worth the try. Well, I'm not sure if the following details relate to "our" Margaret Burke: - Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth, SA066362 - Application no. F2005/9740/X - Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Special Provisions) Act 1957 - 57th Regiment of Foot - Date of the child's birth: 10 August 1824 - Place and date of the child's baptism: St Anns, Shandon, Cork: 10 Augt. 1824 - Christian name of the child: Margaret - Parent's names: James & Austus** Burke - Rank of the father: Private - Name of the chaplain or other clergyman by whom the ceremony was performed: Michael Walsh, Vicar - No. 412 - Certified correct: Signature of the Adjutant: J. Jackson - Certified to be a true copy of an entry made in a Service Departments Register. - Given at the General Register Office, under the Seal of the said Office, the 16th day of August 2005. I would need to find corroborating evidence, which has proven elusive. So, if anyone out there is looking for his or her Margaret Burke and the parental & regimental & place of birth/baptism details fit your scheme, I hope this certificate transcription is useful to you. "Our" Margaret Burke (1823-1898) married John Joseph Huggins (1816-1876) of Glenarb townland (near Caledon), county Tyrone. At the time their first child was born in 1839 at the Infantry Barracks, New Windsor, John was a corporal in the 45th Regiment of Foot. However, just prior to the birth, the regiment had been posted to Chatham. Raised a Presbyterian, John almost certainly converted to R.C., as his death certificate attests. Just in case any of these details every strikes a chord for a reader... What was that line uttered by Queen Eleanor (Katherine Kepburn) in The Lion in Winter, "There'll be pork in the tree tops come morning." Still, it never hurts to post the details now and again ;-). Cheers, Alison Causton Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, September 13, 1824 In a clannish riot, at Abbeyfeale, on Sunday last, a man of the name of John David Roche, was killed by a shot from a military party, whose interference was deemed unnecessary. The riot was anticipated, and the excellent Parish Priest (the Rev. Mr. Fitzgerald) made strenuous and for some time, successful efforts to prevent it. DREADFUL ACCIDENT - It is with feelings of deep regret we have to announce the death of Mr. Joseph Power, of New Ross, (formerly of Carrick-on-Suir.) It occurred on Saturday morning, under the following melancholy circumstances, at Hookless, near Feathard, in the county Wexford, which he had been with Mrs. Power, for the benefit of sun-bathing. For this purpose, it appears, he was proceeding early on that morning to the edge of the sea. In his descent, which was by means of steps, but slightly indented in the rock, he unfortunately slipped, and was precipitated from nearly the top of the rock, which is of immense height, upon a ledge of pointed stones at the bottom. It is needless to add, that he was instantaneously deprived of life.-- Waterford Chronicle. Captain Hamilton, of his Majesty's ship Cambrian, lately arrived from the Mediterranean, brought over a very fine Mummy, found at Thebes, and other Egyptian curiosities; also, some Greek marbles from Milo and Delos, for Gen. Cockburn, which have arrived safe in Dublin. The General sent over several cases of marble from Rome last year, and, we understand, has more on the way. We have authority to say, that on his return next year, his gallery at Shanganagh will at all times be open to the inspection of Artists, and to such ladies and gentlemen as may wish to see it. RURAL SPORTS - The crowds now at the Burren Spa are beyond any calculation in that country. - The numbers assembled to see the best Irish jig dancers was immense and the contest so equal between two of the fair competitors, that the judges could not decide between them, and therefore directed the silver watch to be given to those very interesting girls, to be disposed of as they pleased. Immediately after the dancing, four horses were started, and there was a most excellent race. - On yesterday a fox was to have been shook at the well, and it was so arranged, that the ladies should witness "his funeral tears;" and on Sunday next there will be another race, and afterwards a hurling match, consisting of twenty-one men at each side - one party dressed in blue jackets and caps, and the other in red.--Limerick Paper. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

From The Constitution or Cork Morning Post, 11 September 1822 - DEATHS. On Monday night, at Palacetown, the seat of her brother Samuel Philip Townsend, Esq. Mildred, wife of Webber Carleton, Esq. of Rocklodge. Her death was occasioned by consumption, under which she had suffered with Christian patience for some time. She was mild and affectionate, and constituted the entire happiness of a fond husband, who has to deplore her loss, in common with all who knew her. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hello I am the grand daughter of William Mcknight born abt 1830-1840 Belfast I have all info from 1851 census where he is first found Cumberland a single lodger working on a farmer his father was David Mcknight this info come from his marriage cert when he married Ann Kneen in Cockermouth cumberland 1852 if there is anyone out there that has a conection with William Mcknight or may be abel to help me further I would love to hear from you audrey

Hello All, The database of the Irish convicts to the Colony of NSW has been updated to cover the year 1830. I draw your attention to the following statistics that may be of some interest in your future research. Marital Status numbers for 1830 Single no children ---- 622 Single no children with family connections in the Colony ---- 70 Single with children without family connections in the Colony -- 22 Single with children with family connections in the Colony ---- 1 Married with two wives -- 1 although 4 were transported for bigamy Married with no children ---- 61 Married with no children with family connections in the Colony ---- no details given Married with children without family connections in Colony ---- 182 Married with children with family connections in the Colony ---- 50 Widow with no children ---- 14 Widow with no children with family connections in the Colony ---- no details given Widow with children without family connections in Colony ---- 49 Widow with children with family connections in the Colony ---- 4 Widower with no children ---- 11 Widower with no children with family connections in the Colony ---- no details given Widower with children without family connections in Colony ---- 17 Widower with children with family connections in the Colony ---- 1 Others without substantial details --- 24 Total ---- 1129 >From the above figures, the number of Irish convicts with family in the Colony is 126 or over 11 %. Unfortunately I haven't produced figures for the previous few years. I could suggest that similar figures might apply to English, Welsh or Scottish convicts but who really knows? The astute researcher will realize that one needs to re-check their Irish convict's details again in relation to possible family connections. Due to my family & full time work commitments, I rarely have the time for answering email requests. However a few weeks ago, I had a spare moment & answered a lady's request about her paternal Irish convict. Luckily her convict's sister & cousin had arrived in 1830. The lady had no idea about this fact. John Gallivan was transported on the "Forth I" leaving twelve children in Ireland. Regards, Peter Mayberry Tuggeranong ACT http://www.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/

your wrote, no records in GRO in Dublin ****************************** in the absence of CIVIL records, If you know the parish, why not try for PARISH records, if no CIVIL records turned up. Most children were baptized, even if their birth was not registered. write to the parish clerk-Priest of the village, or town that they lived. You do not say which part of Ireland, or their names. That might help KerryKate http://www3.telus.net/KerryKate/

dave <ctchrinthry@gmail.com> wrote: : My grandmother's (the one who i claim descent through) death record : incorrectly indicates her birthplace as Chicago Illinios--i assume the : coroner just filled in the city of residence. : I am also having a hard time uncovering the marriage record of my : grandparents. It is of course possible that they never actually : married. : While it seems to me that none of this should affect the ultimate : question of genealogy, the foreign birth record application seems quite : exacting. : So the question i put to the group is, should i submit what seems : "sufficient evidence" or should i keep digging? Or am i in a bad : situation for acquiring citizenship? The requirements are quite strict in that you must provide all of the documentation items on the list and that they all agree. I had a similar problem with the documentation I assembled for a client. I had all the pieces, but they did not agree. For some reason, the marriage record of his grandmother did not have the same name for her parents as on her birth and death records. Upon initial application, his citizenship was denied even though I had provided additional corroborating evidence. We resubmitted the application calling their close attention to the supporting documents, which accurately reflected the parentage of a sibling. Once the connection was shown, and supported by several pieces of evidence, including census records, his application was approved and my client now has an Irish passport. Dennis J. Ahern Acton, MA 01720

GKM <gkmcauliff@cox.net> wrote: :> http://www.genfindit.com/ibirths.htm :> LDS Film Numbers for Index to Irish civil birth records : Dennis: Is there a corresponding one for England, or for England and Wales? : Evidently the "i" at the beginning of "ibirths" refers to Ireland. Might : there be different letters corresponding English or England and Wales? I don't know, but you can go to the LDS website and search the catalog by locality. See: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/ supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,180,0 [cut and paste onto one line] LDS Family History Catalog by Location

From The Cork Examiner, 5 August 1861 - ACCIDENT.--A young man residing in Evergreen, fell last night, while walking in that neighbourhood, and fractured his leg. He was taken to the South Infirmary. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -