jimmy <jbird0490@yahoo.com> wrote: : LEACH, ThOMas. b1825, left aboard the Liverpool, from Liverpool. : Came to Providence, RI, married Anne Brady in 1865, had children: : George, Eliza, Mary, Joseph, Sarah. Died and buried here in 1882 at : age of 57 in St.Patrick's cemetery, Providence, RI? : Any clues out there? The place to look for clues is in Rhode Island. If he became a citizen, his papers should at least say what county he was from. Burials of Irish born in the 1880s frequently give place of origin in Ireland. Newspaper obituary is another clue to look for. The National Archives branch in Waltham, Mass. has the naturalization papers for U.S. District and Circuit Courts for the New England states. http://www.archives.gov/northeast/ National Archives - Northeast Regional Records Administration in Waltham, MA for Naturalization records and passenger lists for New England states -dja

LEACH, ThOMas. b1825, left aboard the Liverpool, from Liverpool. Came to Providence, RI, married Anne Brady in 1865, had children: George, Eliza, Mary, Joseph, Sarah. Died and buried here in 1882 at age of 57 in St.Patrick's cemetery, Providence, RI? Any clues out there?

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WHy don't you try taking a look at the web site for the County Clare Library........ they have a lot of material on line and would save you having to spend money getting this same information from a Professional service. The first thing you need to look at is the Tithe Applotment books - TAB's they'l give you some idea re civil parishes and where the name occurred. Clare Library has them on line - also the Griffths Valuation and 1901 census. They don't/can't have parish records due to copyright - but they sure about have everything else there is for Clare - regular records for Irish research http://www.clarelibrary.ie/ Jane X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:23:03 -0400 >From: "John Pezzano" <jpezz@myway.com> To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4e6f9$432cdd99$4986607$21273@DIALUPUSA.NET> Subject: How hard will it be to find ancestor information? My wife's great grandmother was, we believe, born in County Clare on, we believe, Dec 25, 1827. How difficult would it be to trace her when we go visit there without going through (paying for) one of the "services" that trace ancestors. My though would be to go to each parish in the county to look at records. Possible? Other choices? Similar, the great grandfather from County Mayo assuming Mayo is not on the sandwich :-) JohnP _______________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In article <Xns96D49EAB1A26Delektrosmdonet@81.174.12.30>, Alun L. Palmer <elektros@yahoo.com> wrote: > This does fit with the Milesian genealogy, however, i.e. the idea that > all Irish are descended from one man called Mile (or Milesius in the > Latin) who came to Ireland from Spain. Perhaps there's a little grain of > truth in that after all. After 9000 years I can see how you can trace the decent of a population back to one woman. To do the same to one man would be very difficult I would have thought. Jochen -- ------------------------------------ If you want to learn about Limavady, why not try http://www.binevenagh.com for some local history, photographs and the Roe Valley News Browser.

John Pezzano <jpezz@myway.com> wrote: : My wife's great grandmother was, we believe, born in County Clare on, we : believe, Dec 25, 1827. How difficult would it be to trace her when we go : visit there without going through (paying for) one of the "services" that : trace ancestors. My though would be to go to each parish in the county to : look at records. Possible? Other choices? The simplest way to do it would be to pay a heritage centre in county Clare to check their index to see if she is in their database. It would probably cost less than the gas it would take to drive to every parish in Clare, assuming you had the time and the parish priests didn't just tell you to go to the heritage centre as they have more pressing commitments than helping out tourists searching for their roots. It would be much simpler for you to go to the National Library in Dublin and go through all of the parish records on microfilm for County Clare. Because you have a specific date, this may be easier than it sounds. See: http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Clare.htm Co. Clare Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records Provides search service for a fee See http://tiara.ie/results.htm for customer comments http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/munster/index_cl.htm Co. Clare sources for genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcla/index.htm County Clare Genealogical Project http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/clare/ County Clare Surnames and Census Records http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcla2/ County Clare GenWeb http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/library/local-studies/clasp/ Clare Local Studies Project http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm Clare County Library Genealogy http://www.familia.org.uk/services/eire/clare.html County Clare Library Family History Resources http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/parishes.htm Parishes and Townlands in Co. Clare http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/ parliamentary_gazeteer_1845.htm [two-line url] Parliamentary Gazeteer of Clare 1845 http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/ 1901census/1901_clare_census.htm [two-line url] 1901 Census of County Clare

"Laura and Marc" <tanner05@cogeco.ca> wrote: : Can anyone help me identify a Ship leaving Ireland(southeast) for USA. but : encountered a storm and landed off Newfoundland, abt. 1820>? Seeking : name of ship with hopes of a passenger list? Surname "Hearn(e)" It's unlikely you would find any passenger list for a ship arriving in Newfoundland abt. 1820, except that if the ship had experienced a newsworthy storm or other adventure in landing at Newfoundland, it could very well be reported in the newspapers. Such events frequently reported lists of those saved and lost. You can also look on the Ahern website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcanrec.htm for information on O'Hearns in Canada. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

My wife's great grandmother was, we believe, born in County Clare on, we believe, Dec 25, 1827. How difficult would it be to trace her when we go visit there without going through (paying for) one of the "services" that trace ancestors. My though would be to go to each parish in the county to look at records. Possible? Other choices? Similar, the great grandfather from County Mayo assuming Mayo is not on the sandwich :-) JohnP

Alun L. Palmer wrote: > tray@lanset.com (Pat T) wrote in > news:6.1.2.0.0.20050815094505.00ba72d8@pop3.lanset.com: > > >>Here's an Item I came across............... >> >>September 05, 2004 >>The Irish are not Celts, say experts >>Jan Battles <Snip> >> >>Patrick Traynor. tray@lanset.com >> > > > This does fit with the Milesian genealogy, however, i.e. the idea that all > Irish are descended from one man called Mile (or Milesius in the Latin) who > came to Ireland from Spain. Perhaps there's a little grain of truth in that > after all. The Tribes of Britain by David Moles is informative and vere researched reading on the topic. MickG

tray@lanset.com (Pat T) wrote in news:6.1.2.0.0.20050815094505.00ba72d8@pop3.lanset.com: > Here's an Item I came across............... > > September 05, 2004 > The Irish are not Celts, say experts > Jan Battles > > THE long-held belief that Ireland's population is descended from the > Celts has been disproved by geneticists, who have concluded that they > never invaded Ireland. The research at Trinity College Dublin (TCD) > into the origins of Ireland's population found no substantial evidence > of the Celts in Irish DNA, and concludes they never settled here en > masse. > > The study, part-funded by the National Millennium Committee, has just > been published in The American Journal of Human Genetics. It was one of > four projects funded by the government under the Genetic History of > Ireland programme, which aimed to provide a definitive survey of the > origins of the ancient peoples of Ireland. > > Part of the project's brief was to discover whether there was a large > incursion by Celtic people about 2,500 years ago as was widely > believed. After comparing a variety of genetic traits in Irish people > with those of thousands of European and Near Eastern inhabitants, the > scientists at TCD say there was not. > > Some people would go as far as saying there was total replacement of > the population (of Ireland) 2,500 years ago, said Brian McEvoy, one of > the authors. But if that happened we would definitely be more related > to people in central Europe, because the Celts were supposed to have > come from there. We're just not seeing that. We're seeing something > earlier. Our legacy is the result of the first people to settle in > Ireland around 9,000 years ago. > > About 15,000 years ago, ice covered Ireland, Britain and a lot of > northern Europe so prehistoric man retreated back into Spain, Italy and > Greece, which were still fairly temperate. When the ice started melting > again around 12,000 years ago, people followed it northwards as areas > became habitable again. > > The primary genetic legacy of Ireland seems to have come from people > from Spain and Portugal after the last ice age, said McEvoy. They seem > to have come up along the coast through western Europe and arrived in > Ireland, Scotland and Wales. It's not due to something that happened > 2,500 years ago with Celts. We have a very old genetic legacy. > > While we may not owe our heritage to the Celts, we are still linked to > other populations considered Celtic, such as Scotland and Wales. McEvoy > said: > It seems to be more a cultural spread than actual people coming in > wiping > out > and replacing everyone else. > > A PhD student in Trinity's department of genetics, McEvoy will present > the findings tomorrow at the Irish Society of Human Genetics annual > meeting. > > He and Dan Bradley of TCD took samples of mitochondrial DNA, which is > inherited from the mother, from 200 volunteers around Ireland using > cheek swabs. They also compiled a database of more than 8,500 > individuals from around Europe and analysed them for similarities and > matches in the sequences. > > They found most of the Irish samples matched with those around Britain > and the Pyrenees in Spain. There were some matches in Scandinavia and > parts of northern Africa. > > Of the Celtic regions, by far the strongest correspondence is with > Scotland, said Bradley. It corresponds exactly with language. While > that could be due to the Plantation of Ulster, Bradley said it was more > likely due to something much older because the matches occur throughout > the whole of Ireland and not just the north. > > The geneticists produced a map of Europe with contours linking places > that were genetically similar. One contour goes around the edge of the > Atlantic, around Wales, Scotland, Ireland and includes Galicia in Spain > and the Basque region. > > This isn't consistent with the idea of a large invasion here around > 500BC, said Bradley. You would expect some more affinity with central > Europe if we owed the bulk of our ancestry to a movement from central > Europe but we don't. > > Some archeologists also doubt there was a Celtic invasion because few > of their artifacts have been found in Ireland. > > > Patrick Traynor. tray@lanset.com > This does fit with the Milesian genealogy, however, i.e. the idea that all Irish are descended from one man called Mile (or Milesius in the Latin) who came to Ireland from Spain. Perhaps there's a little grain of truth in that after all.

Dock Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : - partial Streets/Townlands included : Phair's lane -Priorsland (part of) - Prospect Row - Queen street, Back - Queen street, Back - Quin street - Quinlan st. (part of) - Richmond street - Schoolhouse Lane - Short Avenue - South Circular Road - Spellacy Square - Stoke's Lane - Vize's Fields - Walshe's Lane (off Edward st.) - Wellesly Place - Wellington Terrace - Windmill street http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/dockwardlimcity.htm Glentworth Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : - - partial Streets/Townlands included : Anderson's Court - Ball Alley Lane - Barry's Lane - Boherbuoy - Bowman street - Brown's Lane, Lower - Brown's Lane, Upper - Carey's Road, Lower - Carey's Road, Upper - Catherine Place - Catherine Street (part of) - Cecil street, Lower - Cecil street, Upper- Cunningham's Lane - Dixon's lane - Donnelly's Lane - Donnelly's Lane - Edward street - George's st. (part of) - George's street - Glentworth st. (part of) - Glentworth street, Lower - Glentworth street, Upper - Glovers Lane http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/glentworth.htm Abbey Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : Streets /Townlands Include : Ahern's Row - Athlunkard street - Back Clare street - Bonfield lane - Canal Bank, pt of - Canal street - Cassidy's lane, pt. of - Castle lane - Chapel lane - Clare street - Coady's Row - Convent street - Corbally - Court House lane - Emily street - Farrells lane - Fish lane - Flag lane - Gaol Lane Bow - Glue Yard lane - Hasset's row - Little Fish lane - Mary street - Meat Market lane - Moores Alley - Moores lane - New Street - New Walk - Nicholas street - Nicholas street - O'Hollerans Range - O'Sullivans Bow - Park - Peters Cell - Ribogue - River lane - Sand Mall - Sheep street - St. Harry's Mall - St. Lelia street - St. Mary's place - Stable lane - The Abbey st. (St. Francis Abbey townland http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/abbeywardlimcity.htm Castle Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : Streets/Townlands include: Abbey Court Row - Barrack lane - Bow lane - Bridge street - Broad lane - Cashes lane - Castle street - Castleview Avenue - Castleview Gardens - Church street - Clunes lane - Conway's Bow - Creagh lane - Crosbie Row - Cross road - Curragower Avenue - Doherty's lane - Ennis road - Factory lane - Farranshone More - Farranshone road - George's Quay - Glosters lane - Goggins lane - Halloran's lane - Halpin's lane - Hasting's Bow - Hasting's lane - High road - Killely - Kilrush Little - King's Island - Laughlin's lane - Little Creagh lane - Little Dominick street - Love lane - Mary Street - Mass lane - Merchant's Quay - Mill lane - New road - Newgate lane - Nicholas street -Nolan's Cottages - North strand - Old Dominick street - Quarry road - School lane - Thomond Terrace - Thomondgate - Treaty terrace http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/castlewardlimcity.htm Irishtown Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : Streets/Townlands include: Back Clare Street - Beltavern lane - Broad street - Campbell's lane - Carey's lane - Cassidy's lane - part of - Curry lane - Dillon's lane - Dolly Hayes lane - Donovan's lane - Donovan's Row - Dowd's lane - Father Quinn's Lane - Flag lane - Forker's lane - Fr. Quinn's Alley - Garryowen - Garvey's Long Range - Garveys Range - Hannon's Row - Hills Lane - John's Gate - John's Street - Lock Quay - Market - New Road - Rortown or Roxtown Terrace - Seyward's lane - Sownwall - Walsh's lane http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/irishtownward.htm Custom House Ward, Limerick City. Heads of Household Name Index - 1901 Census : Streets/Townlands include: Arthur's Quay - Bank Hall - Bank Place - Bedford Row - Carr street - Charlotte Quay - Clancy's lane - Custom House place - Denmark street, Lower - Denmark street, Upper - Ellen street - Ellen street, Upper - Francis street - George Street - Henry street - High street - Margaret place - Market Alley - Michael Street - Michael's lane - Michael's lane (part of) - Patrick street - Punche's Lane - Punche's Row - Robert Street - Rutland street - Ryan's Lane - Sarsfield Street http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/customhouseward.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Can anyone help me identify a Ship leaving Ireland(southeast) for USA. but encountered a storm and landed off Newfoundland, abt. 1820>? Seeking name of ship with hopes of a passenger list? Surname "Hearn(e)" Thanking you in advance, L.O'Hearn-Grant Can anyone help me identify Laura and Marc Poirier ----- Original Message ----- From: <GENIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GENIRE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:00 AM Subject: GENIRE-D Digest V05 #274

My gg grandparents Terrence MUCKIAN and Mary MULROY emigrated to England sometime before September 1851, when my great grandfather Michael MUCKIAN was born in Newcastle upon Tyne. Family tradition is that they came from Co Monaghan. From subsequent censuses, they were born in Ireland around 1831-34. Terrence was a shoemaker. Unfortunately, both their births and their marriage came before the introduction of Civil Registration for Catholics in Ireland in January 1864. They did not register the birth of Michael in Newcastle, but I found him (as Michael MUCKYAN) in the baptismal records of St Andrew's RC Church, Newcastle upon Tyne. The godparents were Charles Muckyan and Ann Mulroy. I've gone back in the church records, but haven't found a marriage, which is why I think they must have married in Ireland. In the 1871 Census, a Michael Mulroy was a boarder with them in Newcastle, six years younger than Mary. Can anyone suggest a way for me to track down the marriage and births of Terrence and Mary? Michael L Muckian

Could someone with access to the Dublin Censuses please lookup Weldon occupation Painter. Thanks Aussie_Walker

From The Cork Examiner, 16 September 1878 - ARRIVALS AT STEPHENS' HOTEL.--Signor and Mdme. Del Puente, Signor and Mdme. Galissi, Mdlle. Lido, Signor Rialp, Signor Zoboli, Signor Bisaccia, and Mr. Pyatt. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Joseluiselrapido@aol.com wrote: : Hi, Dennis! Do you suppose there is any chance that the ship (barque : Euphenia) mentioned in your Irish newspaper extract could be the barque : Euphemia? My immigrant ancestor arrived on the ship Euphemia from There is a very good chance that a typographical error was made, either in the original newspaper, or in my transcription. If you enter "Euphenia" in the IrelandOldnews.com search engine, you only get one hit, but if you put in "Euphemia" you get five hits, mostly as a woman's name, but that lends all the more weight to it being the name of a vessel. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Never anonymous Bud <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote: : Using a finger dipped in purple ink, Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> : scribed: : :>Issues of copyright infringement aside, : What copyright lasts 150+ years? I meant the copyright on the CD that the earlier poster was offering to duplicate. :>why would anyone want to do this :>when the 1851 book was used as the source material for the IreAtlas :>database at http://www.seanruad.com : Many people like to work off-line. I work offline with my hard copy volume published 1997 by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, Baltimore, Maryland, but the type is small and I have to use a magnifying glass. The nice thing about the IreAtlas version online at http://www.seanruad.com is that you can filter on single counties, or provinces and even select only townlands ending in "garrif" for example, or starting with "Kill". -dja

On 15 Sep 2005 20:40:07 -0700, The_Chieftain@att.net wrote: > Slarty wrote: >>> http://profiles.yahoo.com/sir_crispin_gaylord >> >> And the portrait shown there will be instantly recognisable to all British >> TV viewers! > > Some of us don't watch TV, especially foreign muck, so care to let us > in on the secret? > Well, to my eyes that portrait look remarkeably like one of the many characters played by Paul Whitehouse in the BBC TV series 'The Fast Show'. Perhaps Paul Whitehouse based that characterisation on the 'real' Sir Crispin, or maybe 'Sir Crispin' is really a joker named Paul Whitehouse. Who can tell, except the man (men?) him(them?)self(selves?). :-) Cheers, Roy

Never anonymous Bud wrote: > Using a finger dipped in purple ink, Dennis Ahern <ahern@world.std.com> > scribed: > > >Issues of copyright infringement aside, > > What copyright lasts 150+ years? Crown copyright. Regards, The Chief

QuietMan <quietman@proudirish.com> wrote: > >Are there any records of those poor unfortunate Irish sent off to >Botany Bay and other English penal colonies? The records of convicts sent to Australia are pretty complete. However prior to the use of Australia for penal colonies there were a considerable number sent to various locations in North America, and recors of these have largely been lost, or at least not yet made generally available to the public. I have some information about one shipload in 1788 on my website at http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/martellfa/extras/convicts.htm and there are some other ships mentioned there as well. Any additional information about this group would be appreciated. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP http://aumha.org/alex.htm